Auschwitz Crematorium 1 topics

[Fred Ziffel]

I found this blueprint of a Topf oven I have never seen before and perhaps others may not have seen and may want for their files?

[Stubble]

Odd, I don't see any hole in the roof for the fan that is mentioned by Muller in 'Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas Chambers'.

On page 13 he states;

'Maurice and I continued stripping corpses. Cautiously I began to look round. I noticed that there were some small greenish-blue crystals lying on the concrete floor at the back of the room. They were scattered beneath an opening in the ceiling. A large fan was installed up there, its blades humming as they revolved. It struck me that where the crystals were scattered on the floor there were no corpses, whereas in places further away, particularly near the door, they were piled high'

So, my question is, where is the fan? Next to the window?

[blake121666]

That looks to be of a double-muffle oven at Krema 1 - located in Auschwitz main camp (not Birkenau). IIRC, one or 2 of the 3 were additions from the original number.

Stubble seems to be confusing a gas chamber in Birkenau with a cremation oven in Auschwitz. I can't make sense of his post.

[Stubble]

I'm asking about the ventilation system of the facility known as krema 1, as that is what is being referenced in the passage from muller.

He mentions a fan in a hole in the roof humming.

I'm asking where that fan is, or any other reference by anyone to it.

I mentioned the window because muller said he was often called to attention at said window, which doesn't exist.

[blake121666]

I'm asking about the ventilation system of the facility known as krema 1, as that is what is being referenced in the passage from muller.

He mentions a fan in a hole in the roof humming.

I'm asking where that fan is, or any other reference by anyone to it.

I mentioned the window because muller said he was often called to attention at said window, which doesn't exist.

Muller wasn't at Krema 1 in Auschwitz main camp. He was at K4 or K5 in Birkenau. They had fans in the gas chambers - not the oven rooms. The ovens at K4 and K5 were "double-4"s. One oven with 4 muffles on each side for a total of 8 muffles.

K1 had double-muffle ovens - 3 altogether. The OP looks to be one of the additional ovens added to K1 at Auschwitz main camp. But this is a drawing of an oven - not a gas chamber. The alleged gas chamber in K1 was the morgue room - not the ovens areas.

[Stubble]

Read his book.

He was in krema 1 when he was in block 11 before his transfer to 'buna' to be in the 'potato kommandos'.

This passage, at page 13, is in reference to krema 1.

Also, the op says one stop thread for all things krema 1. The morgue is in the facility.

/shrug

[blake121666]

Read his book.

He was in krema 1 when he was in block 11 before his transfer to 'buna' to be in the 'potato kommandos'.

This passage, at page 13, is in reference to krema 1.

Also, the op says one stop thread for all things krema 1. The morgue is in the facility.

/shrug

Oh, ok. I did a quick web search and it LOOKED like the things I read would have pertained to K4 or K5 since it said he was involved in BUILDING the krema he worked at. I quite doubt he built K1.

[Archie]

Hoess on the first gassing in Krema I. Yet another howler.

[Hektor]

Hoess on the first gassing in Krema I. Yet another howler.

At the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial they came up with another version... There people were gassed in the basement of one of the main-camp residences, if I recall that righty....

[Fred Ziffel]

Shoe Display
I was not sure if any of you all have ever seen this deception of the shoe display at the main camp?
Here you can see how the shoes are displayed at an angle to give the impression of many poor souls

[HeiligeSturmV2]

You cannot e.g. measure it anymore.

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[Fred Ziffel]

Here is an interesting look at the then and now of the courtyard with the death wall.
Seems to have been some reworking going on here

[Fred Ziffel]

Here is another rant on this issue

I constructed an attachment on the ceiling holes at the touristy gas chamber at Auschwitz Main Camp. I hope this give you all a clear view of the fraud going on here to convince the emotional gullible masses who flock to this museum.

Focus particularly on ceiling hole "A" and its location to the wall that is not there and the doorway to the oven room.
They legitimize the 1940s gas chamber narrative in this room to the unthinking.

The immediate location of the ceiling hole "A" to the wall/doorway and the oven room doorway in 1942 makes no sense at all. But the "Current Layout" is kind of plausible to the narrative.

My argument is: Not only the gas chamber missing wall, but the current oven room doorway location ALSO plays a role in the deception to legitimize the ceiling hole locations.

The museum gets away with this deception by preying on the already emotionally challenged regardless of the accuracy of the signs outside the building.

[Booze]

No doubt about it at all, you are right. I have heard the old chestnut that there is no wiildlife or birdsong at Auschwitz.

I've also heard that one several times.
I got a laugh out of a video made by a tourist, the birds were making so much noise it was drowning out what he was saying

[Booze]

Here is an interesting look at the then and now of the courtyard with the death wall.
Seems to have been some reworking going on here

When is the source for that photo of the death wall, Fred?