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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:09 pm
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20172#p20172
Nessie, the whole point here is whether such language can be cited as proof of mass executions or if other interpretations are possible. You made seven posts to this thread, all begging the question. This is the same crap you tried in the chemistry threads. Enough. You will be serving a stint with Keen in Quarantine.
Archie fails to explain how all my replies beg the question. The question was, what does ausrotten refer to, in the context of Generalplan Ost. So-called revisionists say it was about rooting out Jews, not exterminating them and the use of that term is not evidence of mass executions.
My point was that to find out what the users of ausrotten meant, look at the evidence, from eyewitnesses, documents etc, the normal forms of evidence used to prove any historical event. Did Generalplan Ost result in Jews being rooted out, as in identified and removed from their homes? Yes, as that is well evidenced, and no so-called revisionist would disagree. There is a non-literal, non-homicidal interpretation, that is evidenced to have happened. But, ausrotten does not just mean root out.
It also means exterminate. Is there evidence of extermination? Yes there is, Himmler had diarised that Jews were to be "exterminated as partisans" in December 1942;
https://holocausthistory.site/1941-12-1 ... partisans/
So-called revisionists do not normally deny that Jews were shot as partisans, though some deny some mass shootings, such as at Babi Yar, despite that being due to partisan activity in Kyiv. The wealth of eyewitness, documented, photographed evidence of mass shootings in the east, 1941-2, means that ausrotten, also referred to extermination. That is evidenced, it is not begging the question.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:17 pm
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20171#p20171
HansHill thinks that the world is laughing at the UK and raging anti-Semitism and open support for a proscribed terrorist organisation, is not an arrestable offence.
Imaging displaying the US flag with the words "rape, steal, cry, kill, cheat, lie", accusing Americans of "racist, imperialist and genocidal" policies and supporting any terrorist organisation that has attacked and killed Americans. Are Americans that tolerant, they would accept that? Would it not generate complaints, or break any laws?
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 5:32 pm
by pilgrimofdark
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:17 pm
Are Americans that tolerant, they would accept that? Would it not generate complaints, or break any laws?
Yes: complaints.
No: break laws.
The
Snyder v. Phelps case was a US Supreme Court decision that is relevant to this, although not exactly one-for-one.
A group from the Westboro Baptist Church would go around to public funerals of US military service members and protest, holding signs with offensive and anti-American messages: "Thank God for Dead Soldiers." "God Hates Fags."
The Supreme Court decided that the protests and messages were protected speech under the First Amendment.
Burning or defacing American or other countries' flags has been free speech for decades, although there is some push to change that only for the Israeli flag.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:17 pmImagine ... accusing Americans of "racist, imperialist and genocidal" policies and supporting any terrorist organisation that has attacked and killed Americans.
There's a whole US cottage publishing industry accusing Americans of racist imperialist genocide, from the low-grade conspiratorial to academic research. Many good books!
Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil is an
excellent example and highly-recommended. It's critical to understanding the "WASP Question," and retains its relevance to the present day.
Americans verbally supporting terrorist organizations is also free speech. Financially or materially supporting them could be breaking laws (unless you're the the CIA).
Theodore Shackley was a CIA officer who wrote a
guidebook on how the USA should support one terrorist/insurgent movement over another in a country:
The Third Option: An American View of Counterinsurgency Operations.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 6:11 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:09 pm
The wealth of eyewitness, documented, photographed evidence of mass shootings in the east, 1941-2, means that ausrotten, also referred to extermination. That is evidenced, it is not begging the question.
Well then, that begs the questions:
What are you waiting for Nesserto?
What are you so afraid of:
The Ukrainian “holocaust by bullets” Addendum
Are 1.5 million jews really buried in the 800 “forensically proven” Ukrainian mass graves?
“Throughout my research for this project, I was often told that the camps, the ghettos, the synagogues, and the stones of the Jewish cemeteries had disappeared, and that nothing remained. Eventually, I no longer paid any attention to these claims... I had made up my mind to find the mass graves... I knew that I had to carry on looking, and I knew that I would find what I was looking for... It became obvious that my research could no longer be reduced to an empirical approach. I had to “professionalize” it... there was a protocol to be implemented on the ground...
Using GPS, we marked down the coordinates of the mass graves... Then we carried out a ballistic inquiry... Back in Busk... so that no one could object that we didn't have material proof...
The excavations were organized with the help of archaeologists... we wanted to obtain scientific results as precise as possible in terms of the identity of the victims, their number, and the cause of death... We were able to establish whether it was a man, a woman, or a child and above all the cause of death. The impact of the bullets and the position of the bodies showed that they had all been shot...
Once the archaeological study was finished, we had to cover these graves...”
Patrick Desbois, author of - THE HOLOCAUST BY BULLETS - a priest's journey to uncover the truth behind the murder of 1.5 million jews
“Before Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec... over 1.5 million [jews] had already been murdered... and the locations of the mass graves where they lay remained unknown and unmarked... until the extraordinary work of Father Desbois opened a way forward...
to locate the mass graves of the victims in Ukraine and...
We can now know the whole truth... Through a magical marriage of the evidence... Desbois has added astonishing ballistic and forensic findings as well -
we are finally able to see clearly. The first 1.5 million victims of the holocaust did not “disappear” ...Desbois has found the mass graves where the victims lie...”
Paul Shapiro (director, center for advanced holocaust studies, USHMM) author of the forward to - THE HOLOCAUST BY BULLETS
Additionally, and independent of any other reward offered on this website, a reward of $50.00 will be remitted for each one of the alleged - 800 MASS GRAVES - (the explicitly alleged number claimed to have been “uncovered” by the date of - 05 / 04 / 2008) that is conclusively proven to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least one gunshot victim. Rules are essentially the same as those for the other challenges on this site. Contact Greg Gerdes for details.
FYI: Here is but one exposé that quashes these shameless Ukrainian mass grave lies and exposes Patrick Desbois’ transparent - FORENSIC FRAUD. -
https://web.archive.org/web/20230217010 ... m/8/1/4030
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
Now let's watch Nesserto run!
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:39 am
by Nessie
pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 5:32 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:17 pm
Are Americans that tolerant, they would accept that? Would it not generate complaints, or break any laws?
Yes: complaints.
No: break laws.
The
Snyder v. Phelps case was a US Supreme Court decision that is relevant to this, although not exactly one-for-one.
A group from the Westboro Baptist Church would go around to public funerals of US military service members and protest, holding signs with offensive and anti-American messages: "Thank God for Dead Soldiers." "God Hates Fags."
The Supreme Court decided that the protests and messages were protected speech under the First Amendment.
Burning or defacing American or other countries' flags has been free speech for decades, although there is some push to change that only for the Israeli flag.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:17 pmImagine ... accusing Americans of "racist, imperialist and genocidal" policies and supporting any terrorist organisation that has attacked and killed Americans.
There's a whole US cottage publishing industry accusing Americans of racist imperialist genocide, from the low-grade conspiratorial to academic research. Many good books!
Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil is an
excellent example and highly-recommended. It's critical to understanding the "WASP Question," and retains its relevance to the present day.
Americans verbally supporting terrorist organizations is also free speech. Financially or materially supporting them could be breaking laws (unless you're the the CIA).
Theodore Shackley was a CIA officer who wrote a
guidebook on how the USA should support one terrorist/insurgent movement over another in a country:
The Third Option: An American View of Counterinsurgency Operations.
That the UK has stricter laws over hate speech than the largely lawless US, is probably one reason why there is less obvious hate in the UK, than the US. The way many Americans express open hatred for groups of their fellow citizens, the constant paranoia about a descent into civil war, the preppers, closed communities, social and racial divides, is, in part, because Americans can get away with being abusive and divisive in a way people in the UK cannot. We are better off because of our laws, protecting groups from abuse and to prevent divisions.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:42 am
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20180#p20180
I think Nessie has terribly underestimated (or is unaware of) just how often 'Holocaust historians' have cited/assumed "ausrotten" (and its various conjugations) to necessarily mean "extermination".
They have not assumed anything. They have looked at the evidence, to establish a chronological history, from which the context of what the senior Nazis meant, can be established. History is evidence based, unless you are a so-called revisionist and then it is based contrary to what is evidenced to have taken place.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:49 am
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20184#p20184
In other words, Nessie admits that Nazi speeches are not proof of genocide, and therefore Wikipedias and other classic "Holocaust evidence" answer entries should be modified to remove "Nazi speeches" as an argument.
Speeches on their own cannot prove what happened. The Holocaust was a huge event that can only be proved by a lot of evidence. The speeches are part of the evidence, establishing motive and opportunity.
"is to look at the evidence as to what happened next"
This is where you fail miserably: you don't provide the alleged amount of ashes from the number of bodies cremated, you don't state the origin of the fuel or agree on what type it was, you don't have photos of the cremations behind the Eastern Front, you don't have aerial photos of the extermination of Hungarian Jews, you cling to archaeological research without peer review, you extrapolate findings to fit what you want, etc.
That is what makes you a denier, rather than a revisionist, as you deny the sheer volume of evidence there is to prove mass killings took place. You concentrate on the holes in the evidence, which are inevitable since the Nazis did so much to try and destroy evidence. Hence, you cannot be shown easily defined graves with hundreds of thousands of corpses in them, or cremation pyre photos. Quite how an aerial photo could show the extermination of the Hungarian Jews is known only to you.
It is you who extrapolates strange conclusions and as for peer review, where is yours? Why can you not find a single archaeologist who supports the so-called revisionist beliefs about a lack of remains at the camps?
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 10:28 am
by HansHill
Nessie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:39 am
That the UK has stricter laws over hate speech than the largely lawless US, is probably one reason why there is less obvious hate in the UK, than the US. The way many Americans express open hatred for groups of their fellow citizens, the constant paranoia about a descent into civil war, the preppers, closed communities, social and racial divides, is, in part, because Americans can get away with being abusive and divisive in a way people in the UK cannot. We are better off because of our laws, protecting groups from abuse and to prevent divisions.
Meme is admittedly about two decades outdated and needs to be a disabled lesbian Muslim lady in a hijab to be reflective of modern UK.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:12 am
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20182#p20182
Regretably poor Nessie has psychological issue. But that is no excuse for her supporting the erosion of our civil liberties and for spreading zionist deceits.
So I corrected her racist, genocide-supporting nonsense
.
From the bully, Wahrheitssucher, who drove people away from RODOH, so that it barely functions as a forum now. I know his name, as he revealed his identity a while back on another forum. His posting style makes it easy to identify him, as he moves about various forums, using various forum user names. He abuses people, primarily by suggesting they have mental health issues, when they disagree with him and in my case, by repeatedly misgendering me.
Of course bullies, and abusers, want unrestricted free speech, so that can bully and abuse with impunity. A decent society stands up to the bullies and abusers and makes their more extreme actions, where rudeness tips into hate speech and makes it illegal. Anti-Semites want to be able to make Jewish people's lives hell, so they are at risk, even in their own homes.
Criticism of Jews or Israel as a collective, is anti-Semitic, as it plays to the trope of all Jews think and act alike, when that is blatantly and well evidenced not to be true. When a doctor shows herself to be a rabid anti-Semite, she has no place in the medical profession, where she can create fear amongst a group of people. White Christians would not like to be treated by a Muslim doctor who supports Hamas and openly expresses hatred of white Christians.
There is a lack of tolerance of others views on this forum, which makes criticism of the UK's hate speech laws, hyper hypocritical.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:59 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:49 am
Why can you not find a single archaeologist who supports the so-called revisionist beliefs about a lack of remains at the camps?
What remains?
It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of -
ONLY SIX PEOPLE.
Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be -
LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 3:27 pm
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20199#p20199
DavidM said;
The Jewish population of Germany was shrinking in a gradual process....
"In January 1933, roughly 525,000 Jews lived in Germany. About 60% (numbering around 304,000) emigrated during the first six years of the Nazi dictatorship. Only roughly 214,000 Jews were left in Germany proper (1937 borders) on the eve of World War II.[9]
looks like extermination does NOT mean murder if it applied to pre-1942 German policy.
Ausrotten means to root out as well as to exterminate. Rooting out applies better pre-War, as the Nuremberg race Laws were being enforced and Jews were being rooted out of Germany and Austria. Mass killings did not start until 1941. Like the word had more than one meaning, the policy had more than one strand to it.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 12:46 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 3:27 pm
Ausrotten means to root out as well as to exterminate.
There was no attempt to "exterminate" the jews.
The "pure extermination center" myth is a
proven nonsensical big-lie:
FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of -
ONLY SIX PEOPLE.
Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be -
LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2025 10:50 am
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20242#p20242
Callafangers states;
...the fact that the scale (all across Europe) and brutal nature of treatment of Jews (ranging from brutal evacuations to mass shootings)...
Then he states;
This makes no sense in the context of 'extermination' but aligns perfectly in the context of expulsion.
Mass shootings align with extermination, rather than expulsion. Brutal evacuations also align with extermination, as people are being transported to the sites of mass shootings and gassings. If there was a programme of expulsion, then where were the millions of Jews arrested and transported to camps and ghettos 1939-44, in 1944? Why were the camps and ghettos not packed with millions of Jews? Why was it the opposite, with all the ghettos closed down by the autumn of 1944 and A-Bs population smaller in 1994, than it had been in 1943? Why were the Soviets, British and Americans not having to deal with millions of expelled Jews, who had been arrested by the Nazis and then handed over? Nothing there aligns perfectly with expulsion.
Then there are the evidenced instances of mass Jewish survival. Millions survived, by fleeing the invading Nazis, from the Netherlands to Ukraine. By avoiding arrest, Jews gave themselves the best chance of living out the war. The Danish Jews survived by fleeing to neutral Sweden. Their existence and survival can be evidenced in 1945. So, why are so-called revisionists unable to do that, to the Jews arrested, who they say were expelled?
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:21 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 26, 2025 10:50 am
Mass shootings align with extermination, rather than expulsion.
If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously -
DID NOT HAPPEN.
Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is -
A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.
FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of -
ONLY SIX PEOPLE.
Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be -
LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.
A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 100 alleged graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of -
at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)
...
Note: Not one person who espouses the orthodox stories of these five so-called “holocausts within the holocaust” and/or has fallen for the big “scientifically proven” lie has ever mustered the courage and integrity to accept a - HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX CHALLENGE.
What are they so afraid of? They’re terrified - because they know they have been forensically cornered - and by accepting a challenge, they will expose who the real deniers / liars are.
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 9:25 am
by Nessie
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20267#p20267
Stubble, on looking for evidence of resettlement;
You did indeed say 'there is no evidence of resettlement', and, that did indeed give me some pause, however, the more I crack in to it, the more evidence is exposed, just like with 'The Hungarian Aktion'.
All of the evidence of resettlement gets dismissed as a 'one off' and must have occurred in a vacuum according to the orthodoxy.
For example, you have people giving interviews on camera who were transported through Treblinka, a 'Pure Death Mill'. These people don't describe people being run up the tube and gassed. They describe getting deloused, getting their heads shaved, getting camp clothes, being given a piece of bread and 'what passes for German coffee', and getting an interview before being sent to another camp. The critique is 'well, all of them went west'.
When you find people going east, demonstrably, the orthodoxy says, 'well, yes, this train load went east, but, they were really, truly, the only ones'.
That last quote is made up, straw man. So far, all Stubble has managed to do, is the same as Mattogno and Kues when they went looking for evidence. They find occasional examples of smaller, or individual transports, that never amount to a significant movement and resettlement of people. For example, the Hungarian action, where it is evidenced hundreds of thousands left Hungary over a few months in 1944, to go to Birkenau. But, only a few thousand are then evidenced to have gone elsewhere. Or, there was a series of transports from Germany to Riga in 1941, but no sign of any resettlement of German Jews in Latvia, in 1942. All they and now Stubble have done, is find exceptions that prove the rule, that the majority of arrested Jews disappear and they are no resettled.
The reason I am not surprised when I find a memo like the one where Speer says 'we will bust them up in to groups of 20-2,000 and send them to labor sites' is because the dead aren't where I was told they would be, and wouldn't fit as a liquid.
That is an opinion based on the argument from incredulity, that because Stubble cannot believe or work out the evidence for mass graves, cremations and finds at the AR camps, therefore there hundreds of thousands were not buried or cremated there.