Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

[bombsaway]

Holy shit Bombsaway, you are absolutely missing the point of the thread.

Kola found 33 'huge mass graves' at Belzec and by that I mean, 'ground disturbances'. Go look at it.

The whole point here in this thread is non nefarious holes.

You just brush that off...

You can't just brush that off.

What hole is the latrine, and why is it labeled a 'huge mass grave'.

It's like the problem with 'huge mass grave' 1 & 2 at Sobibor, which are in fact, not huge mass graves...

Even grave 5 at Sobibor is basically just clean fill with a layer of hair and some ashes at the bottom.

You don't have 'huge mass graves', you have ground disturbances that when probed turn up clean fill, not human remains, unless you count a pony tail.

He labeled them graves because he found human remains in them. I don't know about the sobibor dig, he didn't conduct the one you always quote where they were explicitly trying to avoid the mass graves.

[Stubble]

Bombsaway, did Kola conduct a bore study at Sobibor? And were there later digs conducted by various teams for roughly a decade?

Now, do you seriously think when I say 'the dig doesn't confirm Kola', I'm trying to say, somehow, that Kola conducted the dig?

If not, then why bring it up, except as a diversion to keep you from having to answer a very simple and really basic question...where is the latrine at Belzec?

So far as 'human remains' found by Kola, that doesn't negate the fact that there had to be a latrine. We will get to a refuse pit later, I'm still trying to get you to answer the first question, which ground disturbance found by Kola with his boring apparatus was the latrine Bombsaway?

Which one?

[bombsaway]

Bombsaway, did Kola conduct a bore study at Sobibor? And were there later digs conducted by various teams for roughly a decade?

Now, do you seriously think when I say 'the dig doesn't confirm Kola', I'm trying to say, somehow, that Kola conducted the dig?

If not, then why bring it up, except as a diversion to keep you from having to answer a very simple and really basic question...where is the latrine at Belzec?

So far as 'human remains' found by Kola, that doesn't negate the fact that there had to be a latrine. We will get to a refuse pit later, I'm still trying to get you to answer the first question, which ground disturbance found by Kola with his boring apparatus was the latrine Bombsaway?

Which one?

During Haimi's dig he was explicitly not trying touch the mass graves, so I don't know how it could possibly confirm the previous one.

"which ground disturbance found by Kola with his boring apparatus was the latrine Bombsaway? " I don't know, don't think it was one of the graves, unless they dumped remains in there.

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Bombsaway, I'm going to once again say, they dug into grave 5, and found hair and some ash...

Look at the spoil from grave 5.

Now, if 1 isn't a mass grave, and 2 isn't a mass grave, and 5 isn't a mass grave, then, how many mass graves does that leave you at Sobibor, and how much space is that...

Now, grave 5 is indeed supposed to be a mass grave, you can feel free to check that. There were no bodies in wax fat, which is what Kola said was there based off his samples about grave 5.

That means he was wrong about his samples of grave 5.

There is no leeching evident, as would be the case had the grave been 'filled to the brim' as you claim (you can see the separate strata of natural and then imported fill looking at the wall of the excavation), there is no wax fat, there are no whole corpses, there are some pony tails and there is some ash.

You still count this as a 'huge mass grave', just like graves 1 and 2, and you say they were 'filled to the brim' with dead bodies.

The excavations don't support that.

You continue however to allege it, you kick back on Kola, you say 'he found human remains in all the holes', and you say they were 100% packed to the brim, with no fill, with liquid jews.

You talk about the evidence, and you refuse to examine it. Then you just take shots at me and say all I ever talk about are nothing burgers. Then you accuse me of having 'brain rot' from 'being in an echo chamber' and you wonder why our dialogue is stressed?

It is because you are a dishonest hack trying to grab any excuses you can to carry water for a crumbling narrative while you insult my rigor.

Now, kindly, which pit was the fucking latrine at Belzec bombs, which fucking pit was the god damn shitter?

[bombsaway]

they dug into Kola's grave 5? what's your evidence for this?

Quote from the study

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they dug into Kola's grave 5? what's your evidence for this?

Quote from the study

LOL at you thinking those long bones are ashes...

Bombsaway, where pray tell is the wood ash from the cremations? And how exactly do you think the cremains were separated from it?

None of that addresses the hair and 'rubber implants' (I'm assuming that's a mistranslation of prosthetics) from the passage you shared, either, Bombsaway...

Look, you have tried to have this both ways before. If you are going to claim the bodies were obliterated, then you are going to have to come up with an explanation for how. The fuel requirement alone is massive. We are talking deforestation the likes of which the world has never seen in an 18 month window.

Even if you go with that, your alleged grave space, assuming every hole in the dirt is a mass grave, is wildly insufficient, at all of the camps.

We aren't even getting into the problems with testimony yet, we are only talking about physical reality.

At the end of the day, there are holes in the dirt that were dug for purposes other than consigning the dead, which is the point of this thread.

Even if granted, out of hand however, that every hole in the requisite area is a 'mass grave' they are woefully insufficient for purpose.

Look at the picture of 'grave 5' at sobibor I linked on page 1. You think that roughly shoebox sized bit of ash with the pony tails in it is 'bone ash'?



That's your claim?

Fine, then you have a few inches of ash in grave 5 Bombsaway, where's the rest?...

Now, at Belzec, which hole is the damn shitter!

[bombsaway]

How do you know that grave number 5 is the same as Kola's mass grave number 5

[bombsaway]

I don't know which hole the shitter would be, he probably ignored it because it didn't have human remains. These questions are inane.

[TlsMS93]

So, does this mean that the Nazis dug graves as the bodies of those gassed became available for disposal, rather than first digging what they deemed necessary and then dumping the bodies? Is that coherent?

Now the main question is, what does finding cremated human remains indicate to you? Is that enough to satisfy you enough to believe the narrative?