"56 Olympic Swimming Pools" and Treblinka (Nessie's logic)

[Nessie]

Nessie has been saying this "2 hectares/50 Olympic swimming pools!" thing forever. This is what he does. He gets these little mantras in his head and he just repeats them over an over, totally ignoring counterpoints.

He claims (falsely) that CSC's dissertation has "photos galore" of human remains.

See plates 4.9, 4.10, 4.28 and 4.29, showing bones from when the memorial was constructed 1959-61.

[Keen]

That is your unevidenced theory, not backed by any other evidence. I have eyewitness, photographic and geophysical evidence of ground disturbances across the 2 hectares.
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I can evidence mass graves and c800,000 buried there. You merely misrepresent that evidence and fail to produce any of your own. When you come to your conclusions, you ignore much of the evidence. Stop cherry picking.

So Nessie admits that he denies the USHMM's figure of 925,000.

And speaking of cherry picking:

Nessie,

A - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??

Now let's watch Nessie run away from this simple question yet again!

[Nessie]

Keen knows that for me to answer questions, he has to show me he will be polite, refrain from any abuse or mis-gendering and answer questions I ask him. He refuses to do that, so I know he does not want to debate me. Instead he just wants to abuse and troll.

[Stubble]

Nessie is so terribly confused right now. SAD.

This whole thread:

Look, 56 pools is a lot of pools, why would they need them?

Auschwitz only had 1 pool. Treblinka I also only had 1 pool.

Maybe they held a series of summer games.

[Nessie]

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Look, 56 pools is a lot of pools, why would they need them?

Auschwitz only had 1 pool. Treblinka I also only had 1 pool.

Maybe they held a series of summer games.

It is clearly an issue for you, that the area where the main mass graves were located, is so large.

[Stubble]

Wait, seems like they only had 4 pools. Any way to establish if anyone ever filled these pools with decedents?

Also, the pools look to have a smaller surface area than an Olympic swimming pool, perhaps their size has been overstated, given the number of pools has been.

Hmmm, maybe I need to reflect on this.

[Nessie]

Wait, seems like they only had 4 pools. Any way to establish if anyone ever filled these pools with decedents?

Also, the pools look to have a smaller surface area than an Olympic swimming pool, perhaps their size has been overstated, given the number of pools has been.

Hmmm, maybe I need to reflect on this.

It is five pits, next to each other, in the area of the camp that the eyewitnesses stated the main mass graves were located. Geophysics corroborates the witnesses. Normally, that would be accepted as proof, but not when it is a so-called revisionist, who cannot revise and does not want to accept the evidence.

[Archie]

Nessie has been saying this "2 hectares/50 Olympic swimming pools!" thing forever. This is what he does. He gets these little mantras in his head and he just repeats them over an over, totally ignoring counterpoints.

He claims (falsely) that CSC's dissertation has "photos galore" of human remains.

See plates 4.9, 4.10, 4.28 and 4.29, showing bones from when the memorial was constructed 1959-61.

Four photos out of 600 pages is "photos galore"? Let's take a look at these photos.





Hmm, I think we can all see why you didn't post these yourself. This is 56 Olympic swimming pools of human remains? I see a few bones.

Buchenwald (where 30,000 people died)



Nessie, you might be able to get away with these shameless bluffs on X where nobody is going to check anything. But on here that isn't going to work. Please be serious.

[Stubble]

Looks like Aktion 1005 was significantly more thorough at Buchenwald than it was at the Bug River camps.

What is the cope for that? The orthodoxy ever explained why cremated remains in the west were more significantly obliterated than those in the east?

Looks like the 'ball mill' at Treblinka II, didn't do much.

This still doesn't explain the 4 swimming pools though, or why they would have been used to dispose of the dead.

[Callafangers]

You cherrypicked evidence and quite mined, both logical fallacies. You rely heavily on the use of logical fallacies, as you have no actual evidence. When you get caught, you try and dismiss that "zero substance". But you are misrepresenting the evidence, to prop up your desired beliefs. If you accepted the evidence, you would have to accept you were wrong.

This isn't even coherent. You are lame.

Yet again, you show how ignorant you are of the evidence. Are you sure that the only time human remains were found at TII, was by the Polish War Crimes Commission in 1945? Would you like to do some research and check that claim?

This is not an argument. Your "2 hectares" claim or any claim to even hundreds -- let alone thousands or hundreds of thousands -- of corpses/Jews specifically (not just 'disturbances') comes entirely from Judge L and his clique.

Are you sure that I am taking Lukaszkiewicz only, and extrapolating that evidence alone, into c800,000 corpses? Or, have you made another cock up about the evidence?

This is a question, not an argument, and yes -- you are doing all of this.

Are you sure the only other evidence is the witnesses?

Yes, Nessie. I am certain of this. You have zero evidence of corpses. You're behaving like a child, now, acting coy as though you have some "big evidence" you're keeping up your sleeve.

You are a clown and it's no shock that other members here "misgender" you, given you behave like a lil' bitch.

The largest of the craters produced by explosions (numerous fragments attest to the fact that these explosions were set off by bombs), which is at maximum 6 meters deep and has a diameter of about 25 meters – its walls give recognizable evidence of the presence of a large quantity of ashes as well as human remains – was further excavated in order to discover the depth of the pit in this part of the camp. Numerous human remains were found by these excavations, partially still in a state of decomposition.[208] The soil consists of ashes interspersed with sand, is of a dark gray color and granulous in form. During the excavations, the soil gave off an intense odor of burning and decay. At a depth of 7.5 meters the bottom was reached, which consisted of layers of unmixed sand. At this point the digging was stopped here.

Notice anything? Perhaps that the entire discussion of excavations here pertains to this one massive crater?

They did multiple excavations, in one crater? Is that what you are saying?

Again, Nessie: this is a question, from you -- NOT an argument.

It is not what *I* am saying -- Judge L is 100% clear that he is talking about this one single crater. There is no room to interpret the excavations referred to as being at anywhere else other than the crater he is specifically talking about and referencing back to throughout the same paragraph.

You are pretending not to understand this because you are an effeminate liar.

He said excavations, not excavation, and craters, not crater and he reports an area of 2 hectares where human remains are located, not just a single crater.

You're just dead-wrong, here, so you devolve into more blatant dishonesty. Not surprising.

Here again is the only relevant quote from Judge L about the "excavations" in question. We'll let the readers decide whether or not multiple craters are being excavated, here:

The largest of the craters produced by explosions (numerous fragments attest to the fact that these explosions were set off by bombs), which is at maximum 6 meters deep and has a diameter of about 25 meters – its walls give recognizable evidence of the presence of a large quantity of ashes as well as human remains – was further excavated in order to discover the depth of the pit in this part of the camp. Numerous human remains were found by these excavations, partially still in a state of decomposition.[208] The soil consists of ashes interspersed with sand, is of a dark gray color and granulous in form. During the excavations, the soil gave off an intense odor of burning and decay. At a depth of 7.5 meters the bottom was reached, which consisted of layers of unmixed sand. At this point the digging was stopped here.

For the record:

• The text refers specifically to "the largest of the craters" as a singular entity that "was further excavated", indicating that only one primary crater is being discussed.
• Plural terms like "these excavations" and "during the excavations" describe multiple digging activities, but these are contextualized within the singular crater (e.g., to probe its depth and walls).
• No explicit mention or description of excavating other craters; the narrative centers solely on this one (noted as the largest among implied multiples), stopping at its 7.5-meter bottom.

No reasonable person can see this any other way. It just isn't there.

The Poles reported numerous craters and excavations, containing human remains, in the 2 hectare site.

The "2 hectares" fantasy is dead, Nessie. The only reference to this "2 hectares" area is Judge L mentioning that this is the surface area across which ash/remains/sand was scattered due to the bomb that exploded a massive crater which had corpses in it -- the sole location where corpses were found at all.

That is your unevidenced theory, not backed by any other evidence. I have eyewitness, photographic and geophysical evidence of ground disturbances across the 2 hectares.

No -- it is a fact that your "2 hectares" claim is/was based entirely on Judge L's statement, now known to refer only to ashes/remains blown onto the surface from a single crater. Do you have anyone, anywhere else that mentions "2 hectares" or gives any indication of this specific surface area, referring to corpses buried underneath?

Nessie, this is "rock bottom". Face it, own it, admit it.

At the very least, tell us how many "Olympic sized swimming pools" you would still claim are evidenced as filled with Jews.

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I would say 80-90% of them, the rest being slivers of ground between the graves.

Of course you would "say" it, moron. You certainly cannot evidence it, which is why you simply "said" it instead of linking/summarizing/presenting your earth-shattering evidence.

I can evidence mass graves and c800,000 buried there. You merely misrepresent that evidence and fail to produce any of your own. When you come to your conclusions, you ignore much of the evidence. Stop cherry picking.

You absolutely cannot. You cannot evidence even c80,000, let alone 10x this amount. You can't so you don't. You've made that clear in this very thread.

I'd wager you can't evidence 8,000 or perhaps even 800.

I might give you 80.