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Wetzelrad wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:34 am Well done on the article.

I'm busy right now, but among the many remaining leads to pursue that I have written down is to search for more Polish Kennkarten, in the aim to find anything that might determine Wiernik's card's legitimacy. The Wikipedia article has a photo of the same style of card, and there seems to be a fair bit of literature on them. Most helpful would be if a card that is known not to be forged can be found, in comparison to Wiernik's, with identical stamps and matching typeface, perhaps even the same date.
I'll keep digging. The use of a staple makes me think this one might be phony.

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Good job, pilgrim. You only joined here last month and you're already publishing articles!

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Absolutely fascinating Pilgrim, thanks for the effort put into this and congrats on the article!
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Archie wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:12 am Good job, pilgrim. You only joined here last month and you're already publishing articles!
Thank you. I got some practice writing book reviews on Goodreads before the wave of them banning all the books I read :roll: And thank you to everyone who posted links, ideas, thoughts.

A good number of the discussion/debate threads here could be polished up as articles, which would be cool to see. That Mogilev gassing video discussion uncovered some interesting new info, but maybe raised more questions than answers.

In terms of further research about Wiernik, the Kennkarte is a good idea. Looks like quite a few photos of them are available online.

I inquired with the archive about the 1913 "residence ban" scan, too. Might not be the same person, might cost way too much for a copy. We'll see.
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Perhaps we could all kick in to a 'research fund' to facilitate such expenditures as a whole rather than one person having to eat cost on the front end.

A couple hundred bucks spread across a couple hundred people is around a dollar a head, opposed to a few hundred out of pocket.

This would require us to become better organized however and the establishment of a group.

I would not be opposed to a 'dues' based system to help keep up the forum and to fund research.

Just spitballing.
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Stubble wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:51 pm Perhaps we could all kick in to a 'research fund' to facilitate such expenditures as a whole rather than one person having to eat cost on the front end.

A couple hundred bucks spread across a couple hundred people is around a dollar a head, opposed to a few hundred out of pocket.

This would require us to become better organized however and the establishment of a group.

I would not be opposed to a 'dues' based system to help keep up the forum and to fund research.

Just spitballing.
They got back to me. The "residence ban" record is less than $10 USD, so I'll swing that. It's only 14 pages.

I'd be willing to pitch in for larger digitization projects, as long as they're openly accessible once digitized.

Meaning, once the record is paid for and scanned, it's freely available from some combination of these:
  • the original archive
  • archive.org
  • CODOH
  • any other website that wants to archive it
So no "hoarding" of documents, in case the archive just sends the purchaser a private copy.
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Probably no way to prove this one way or the other, but some Kennkarte's for comparison.

The IL Holocaust museum has an "assumed name" Kennkarte but takes the issued date as accurate, which is important for what it's worth.

Warsaw, 1 June 1943 (Wiernik)

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Warsaw, 23 July 1943

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From the Illinois Holocaust Museum:
False Polish identification card (Kennkarte) for Alina Eva Kozlowska, issued on July 23, 1943, in Warsaw, German-occupied Poland.
They seem to take the date issued as accurate, but the name as false. The Jewish woman had a number of documents to prove her "Polish Catholic" identity, which were likely used to get a legitimate ID card under the fake name.

Big, if true.
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Warsaw, 5 June 1943

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Overall similar, darker printing.
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Warsaw, 30 June 1943

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Pretty similar to Wiernik's, although darker ink.
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Warsaw, 10 May 1943

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Similar stamps in similar locations, similar printing, similar relatively light fingerprints.
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Warsaw, 11 December 1942

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Similar stamps in similar locations, similar printing, darker fingerprints.
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It seems like we are not going to determine much from visual comparison until we know more about them, but here is a quick comparison anyway. Note the matching issuer's signatures and the placement of the "ń"s.

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Wendyński's card is called false. We need some cards that are known to be authentic. They can't all be fakes.

What we need most of all is reliable information on how forgeries were made or what distinguishes them. Wikipedia is totally unhelpful because it lacks a citation for the little that it does say. Here is an article called "Aryan Papers" by Sebastian Piątkowski.
https://czasopisma.ipn.gov.pl/index.php ... /2224/2113

The first half largely concerns how Jews could get an "authentic and formally valid" Kennkarte by submitting false identification documents. According to some memoirs, many of these were documents that originally belonged to people who were deceased, missing, or living elsewhere. In other memoirs these were new documents, sometimes backdated, that were produced by friendly parties like priests and bureaucrats. The types of documents included baptismal certificates, birth certificates, marriage certificates, employment certificates, school certificates, diplomas, older ID cards, and more. This authentic type of Kennkarte still required the person to go to a local office and add their fingerprints.

Then on page 453 the author only briefly describes the second type of Kennkarte.
For many Jews in hiding, acquiring documents in this way was very difficult [...] Thus they attempted to acquire any Kennkarten, often completely false ones [...] There was a huge market for such documents, but the quality of production was inconsistent. According to rumours, a false Kennkarte could be bought in the Warsaw market for just 500 złoty, but these ‘papers’ were forged in the most primitive way. Even low-ranking officers of the German police were systematically trained in discovering elements that indicated forgery. Adam Dębicki, hiding in Warsaw, received a fake, completely blank Kennkarte from an unknown Pole. He describes a certain friendly man named Kalbarczyk, a concierge of one of the houses, who then acquired ink, probably of a special consistency or colour, which Dębicki could use to fingerprint the Kennkarte. Nevertheless, a considerable sum had to be paid for a well-forged Kennkarte. Benedykt Müntz, his wife, daughter and son-in-law escaped from Lvov to Warsaw, and Aryan documents were waiting for them there. These documents should have cost 5000 złoty, but forgers forced them to pay as much as 18,000 złoty. This expense paid off, however, and Müntz mentions his identity papers were repeatedly verified during stops and searches on the streets of Warsaw [...]
Therefore there could be many different forms of forged Kennkarten, some crude and some sophisticated. No details that could help distinguish them are given here. The author also cites some Polish sources that could have more info.

I am inclined to believe Wiernik's card is one of the authentic type because it does not immediately appear different than other cards, and, unless I missed it, he never said anything about paying for a forgery. If I am right, then the date on the card is the legitimate issuing date which contradicts his stay in Treblinka.

Unfortunately, the collection of Wiernik's documents does not include anything older than the ID card itself.
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I was looking for something on the German side and found a hint.

The Polish state archives search lists a number of documents for "Wnioski o wydanie dowodów osobistych oraz nie odebrane dowody" (Applications for the issuance of identity cards and uncollected ID cards).

These contain application paperwork and photos.

They're all from the State Archives in Radom, but if these applications from the German side survived from Warsaw, it might provide confirmation.

If Smarzynski (Wiernik) showed up on June 1, 1943 and filled out an application for a Kennkarte, then the application should have existed. He fills out the application, he gets his ID card. Both documents stamped the same day, with the same photo. German office keeps the application, Wiernik gets his fake ID.
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pilgrimofdark wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:59 pm I was looking for something on the German side and found a hint.

The Polish state archives search lists a number of documents for "Wnioski o wydanie dowodów osobistych oraz nie odebrane dowody" (Applications for the issuance of identity cards and uncollected ID cards).

These contain application paperwork and photos.

They're all from the State Archives in Radom, but if these applications from the German side survived from Warsaw, it might provide confirmation.

If Smarzynski (Wiernik) showed up on June 1, 1943 and filled out an application for a Kennkarte, then the application should have existed. He fills out the application, he gets his ID card. Both documents stamped the same day, with the same photo. German office keeps the application, Wiernik gets his fake ID.
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pilgrimofdark wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:59 pm If Smarzynski (Wiernik) showed up on June 1, 1943 and filled out an application for a Kennkarte, then the application should have existed. He fills out the application, he gets his ID card. Both documents stamped the same day, with the same photo. German office keeps the application, Wiernik gets his fake ID.
The article by Piątkowski says that receipt of the ID came "usually after a few weeks of waiting" after submitting an application. So allow for at least that much of a delay between the two.
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One from June 2, 1943, but it's missing the first page so we can't compare the document number and other info.

Worth preserving for the nearness in date issued, though.
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And this is an excellent comparison for the "Beamter-urzedik" from 1 July 1943. Link
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Wetzelrad wrote: Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:10 pm The article by Piątkowski says that receipt of the ID came "usually after a few weeks of waiting" after submitting an application. So allow for at least that much of a delay between the two.
Good catch. If true, that blows up Wiernik's timeline further, since he'd have to be in Warsaw to apply for the ID card weeks before even the May 28 first proposed breakout.

He was probably hiding out in Warsaw concocting underground communist propaganda during May 1943, waiting for his Polish Catholic ID card to be ready to pick up.
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These are some document numbers, all from 1943. They sort of dance around and creep up over the months, but there are also some lower numbers in later months. 1942 numbers were lower.

Possibly the government taking longer to verify a person's identity, or some aspect of the application/approval/pickup process I'm not clear on. I have no idea when a number is assigned versus when the ID card is issued.

The numbers aren't sequential. Wiernik's and Levy-Gordon's aren't wildly out of range for the dates issued.

14 January - 370981 Link
13 February - 412308 Link
22 April - 503959 Link
10 May - 524113
1 June - 560072 (Wiernik)
5 June - 554636
7 June - 451334
30 June - 600449
1 July - 594217
23 July - 529428 (Yael Levy-Gordon's card from GFH)
27 July - 647628 Link
28 July - 415579 Link

(some new links, and anything not linked was posted above)
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Here is an article by Stanisława Lewandowska called "Z fałszywym Ausweisem...".
https://bazhum.muzhp.pl/media/texts/roc ... s75-90.pdf

It has a lot to say about how forgeries were produced, although I haven't gleaned much from it. Signatures and stamps are mentioned. Document ID numbers are not. Dates are mentioned just once, translated below.
[...] required the immediate possession of fictitious documents, which were produced by the Kedyw legalization unit of the Home Army Headquarters [komórka legalizacyjna Kedywu KG AK]. Obtaining them required completing formalities specified in this unit's guidelines. They read:
When ordering documents, please indicate whether the address is real or fake. On order forms, in the place of residence box, we have two capital letters R and L. If the address is real, circle the letter L, and if it is fictitious, circle the letter R. When ordering a "KR" [karta rozpoznawcza, or identity card] from Warsaw with a real address, please provide at least an approximate date of registration, in order to properly match the dates in the "KR." When ordering a "KR" with a fake address, please indicate whether it could be a "KR" from the provinces, re-registered to Warsaw. Please prepare orders legibly and understandably; unclear orders cause delays in their execution
So the Polish resistance at least had a formalized process for producing inauthentic Kennkarten, and they did have some awareness of how to correctly forge a date. This makes it more plausible that Wiernik's card was forged from scratch.

I'm now reading through Kryptonim 'Zegota'. Despite the name, a substantial part of this book is merely a conventional historybook on the Holocaust. Jews good, Poles bad, Germans worse, 4M at Auschwitz, etc. Where it starts to become useful is with names and addresses. I'm not sure if we already had this information (p.84):
Another example of dedicated and effective participation in the "Żegota" campaign is the activity of Andrzej Klimowicz, a member of the left-wing youth movement and the underground Democratic Party. [...] His tire repair shop in Warsaw at ul. Nowy Świat 41 was a place of lively underground contacts, ad hoc support, as well as a temporary hiding place and information and intelligence point. "This location," wrote Irena Sendler, "was: 1) the contact point for the Three Żegota activists—Adolf Berman (alias Borowski, Adam from Poale Zion), Leon Feiner (alias Mikołaj from the Bund) and Fiszgrund Salo (alias Henryk, also from the Bund), 2) a mailbox for the transfer of documents, addresses, and money from Żegota to the persecuted, 3) a place for a group of wards, who were hiding Jews under the constant care of A. Klimowicz. Through him, they received the necessary documents, addresses of apartments, hiding places, money, and contacts for transfers to the partisans. Among others, this location was used for a long time, hidden behind a partition in the workshop, by Mr. Wiernik Jankiel, a carpenter by trade who escaped from Treblinka.["]
I find it pretty remarkable that Wiernik was actually residing at what could probably be termed the headquarters for Zegota. This same address then appears again as the center for printing forgeries (p.87):
The legalization [forgery] office consisted of six people permanently employed by the Council. It was headed by Leon Weiss ("Leon"). It prepared various personal documents, including Kennkartes, Arbeitskartes, Ausweiss, various service IDs (including those for SS and Gestapo officers), birth certificates, death certificates, marriage certificates, residence card stubs, passes, and various other forms. The forgeries were produced with great precision and generally made it impossible to determine their authenticity. They were prepared on original copies from the relevant offices, usually obtained through bribery. When bribery failed, samples of the originals were photographed and documents were then produced on appropriate quality paper, acquired with considerable difficulty. Printing took place at the secret printing house of the Democratic Party (ul. Nowy Świat 41).
The authors then mention forging seals and signatures as well as the process of getting some of these fake identities entered into the German registration system.

The authors also add that for Zegota "all legalization services were free of charge," (p.88) which is contrary to my argument above.

Possibly we could argue that the claims made throughout this book are not credible, lacking proof, and somewhat outlandish, but there is not a lot of motive to exaggerate these things. If we take their claims as true, then it is likely Wiernik's Kennkarte was an expert forgery which was merely backdated several months.
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Wetzelrad wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:01 am I'm now reading through Kryptonim 'Zegota'. Despite the name, a substantial part of this book is merely a conventional historybook on the Holocaust. Jews good, Poles bad, Germans worse, 4M at Auschwitz, etc. Where it starts to become useful is with names and addresses. I'm not sure if we already had this information (p.84):
... Nowy Świat 41 ...
I find it pretty remarkable that Wiernik was actually residing at what could probably be termed the headquarters for Zegota. This same address then appears again as the center for printing forgeries (p.87).
Nowy Swiat was outside of the ghetto, so a good place to forge non-Jewish identification documents.

The 1939/1940 Warsaw telephone directory has dozens of listings for Nowy Swiat 41 & Nowy Swiat 43. There are so many that it was possibly a mailing address for numerous businesses, corroborating the claim it was a "mailbox for the transfer of documents."

By the German 1940/1942 directories, Nowy Swiat/Neue Welt 41 still has numerous listings, but 43 has seemingly disappeared entirely.

The History of Jankiel Wiernik article says this about Nowy Swiat 43:
Polish underground organizations helped in this. The Secret Council for Aid to Jews, operating in Warsaw since 1942, had a secret printing house in the city center (at 43 Nowy Świat Street), organized by an activist of the Democratic Party "Marek" - [Ferdynand] Arczyński. Some conspiratorial publications were printed here, including several leaflets signed by Polish independence organizations that were members of the Council, which called on Polish society to participate as widely as possible in the campaign to help Jews.
So we have additional Wiernik associations with secret printing presses, Jewish aid organizations, and subversion.

On the ID card, I can't think of a conclusive way to prove it's legitimate, other than discovering if the German administration had a copy of the application for it.
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