On Euphemisms and Code Words

[Eye of Zyclone]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

Crematoria were also used in most camps. And two thirds of the alleged Nazi extermination camps had no crematoria at all. The crematoria of German camps were used for the disposal of the contagious corpses generated by epidemics. A basic sanitary measure. And most humans cremate their dead anyway. Nothing sinister or genocidal in the cremation of human dead bodies itself.

[Eye of Zyclone]

The notion that 'the gas chambers' were actually 'delousing devices' circulated for years through the media after 1945.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... chamber%22#

It only vanished between 1960 and 1990, when Revisionist rediscovered this small, but important fact.

A single article on the 11th page of a Jewish newspaper is not a notion circulated through the media. And that article just reported what a local German official had said to a foreign journalist without explaining whether that statement was believed or not.

[Nessie]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

Kremas (Crematoria) are obviously for cremation. Did you mean the morgues?:

[Pressac] notes that the dates of death and cremation on the urns often indicate a lag of four or five days, during which time the bodies would have been in the morgues.

I am reminded of Nessie's complaints that an affirmed history of "what really happened" at the crematories and morgues of Auschwitz/Birkenau is not often described by revisionists.

Well, Nessie: there ya' go.

viewtopic.php?p=18407#p18407

The Kremas are Krema I in Auschwitz and Kremas II to V in Birkenau. Like most crematoriums, they have a room to store corpses and a room with the cremation ovens. The room to store corpses, was the room modified to be a gas chamber. Krema II and III had an extra room, so they would have had two corpse stores, with the second room being modified for use as an undressing room. How do I know all of that? Evidence directly pertaining to each Krema, of its usage, in specific years and months.

[Nessie]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

Crematoria were also used in most camps. And two thirds of the alleged Nazi extermination camps had no crematoria at all. The crematoria of German camps were used for the disposal of the contagious corpses generated by epidemics. A basic sanitary measure. And most humans cremate their dead anyway. Nothing sinister or genocidal in the cremation of human dead bodies itself.

There is something sinister about the usage of Krema I, 1941-2 and Kremas II to V, 1943-4. Evidence gathering, has pieced together chronologies for each building, and what it was used for.

[Eye of Zyclone]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

Crematoria were also used in most camps. And two thirds of the alleged Nazi extermination camps had no crematoria at all. The crematoria of German camps were used for the disposal of the contagious corpses generated by epidemics. A basic sanitary measure. And most humans cremate their dead anyway. Nothing sinister or genocidal in the cremation of human dead bodies itself.

There is something sinister about the usage of Krema I, 1941-2 and Kremas II to V, 1943-4. Evidence gathering, has pieced together chronologies for each building, and what it was used for.

Just a debunked biased distortion and cherry-picking of the paper trail on those buildings. And for info, Holocaust revisionists talked extensively about the crematoria of Auschwitz. Quite off topic anyway. This thread is about the alleged murderous euphemisms regarding the gas-chamber atrocity story.

[Archie]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

No derails, please. We have multiple threads on these specific points.

Here for example
viewtopic.php?t=315

[Hektor]

The notion that 'the gas chambers' were actually 'delousing devices' circulated for years through the media after 1945.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... chamber%22#

It only vanished between 1960 and 1990, when Revisionist rediscovered this small, but important fact.

A single article on the 11th page of a Jewish newspaper is not a notion circulated through the media. And that article just reported what a local German official had said to a foreign journalist without explaining whether that statement was believed or not.

There is plenty of other articles from that era of that sort. The majority of folks won't have knowledge or have processed the information of course. But there is reason to assume that more educated Germans that knew about hygiene measures and fighting academics would understand that. Besides that. I don't think that the use of delousing chambers in concentration camps is in dispute at all. The Holocaust narrative got however more of a twist insisting that it was the morgues that were used as homicidal gas chambers....

[Eye of Zyclone]

Back to the original topic...

The term "final solution of the jewish problem/question" or just "final solution" is the most powerful and widely used of those alleged Nazi genocidal euphemisms and code words which Holohoaxers distorted (deceptively "decoded") in order to fool the masses. The real, Zionist origin of that term couldn't be repeated too often if I'm asked.

[Eye of Zyclone]

The notion that 'the gas chambers' were actually 'delousing devices' circulated for years through the media after 1945.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... chamber%22#

It only vanished between 1960 and 1990, when Revisionist rediscovered this small, but important fact.

A single article on the 11th page of a Jewish newspaper is not a notion circulated through the media. And that article just reported what a local German official had said to a foreign journalist without explaining whether that statement was believed or not.

There is plenty of other articles from that era of that sort. The majority of folks won't have knowledge or have processed the information of course. But there is reason to assume that more educated Germans that knew about hygiene measures and fighting academics would understand that. Besides that. I don't think that the use of delousing chambers in concentration camps is in dispute at all. The Holocaust narrative got however more of a twist insisting that it was the morgues that were used as homicidal gas chambers....

It's not in dispute. It's been rather unmentioned and ignored, which is a trick in itself. To most people, mere photos and exhibits of empty cans of Zyklon B are sufficient proof that the homicidal gas chamber story is true because most people just don't know that Zyklon B was a life-saving fumigant used by the Germans in their concentration camps to get rid of typhus-carrying lice in clothing and bedding. Most people don't know that the alleged homicidal gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau were morgues supposedly turned into homicidal gas chambers and they don't care about it.

[Hektor]

A single article on the 11th page of a Jewish newspaper is not a notion circulated through the media. And that article just reported what a local German official had said to a foreign journalist without explaining whether that statement was believed or not.

There is plenty of other articles from that era of that sort. The majority of folks won't have knowledge or have processed the information of course. But there is reason to assume that more educated Germans that knew about hygiene measures and fighting academics would understand that. Besides that. I don't think that the use of delousing chambers in concentration camps is in dispute at all. The Holocaust narrative got however more of a twist insisting that it was the morgues that were used as homicidal gas chambers....

It's not in dispute. It's been rather unmentioned and ignored, which is a trick in itself. To most people, mere photos and exhibits of empty cans of Zyklon B are sufficient proof that the homicidal gas chamber story is true because most people just don't know that Zyklon B was a life-saving fumigant used by the Germans in their concentration camps to get rid of typhus-carrying lice in clothing and bedding.

That is however true... At least they'd consider that. Show them corpses, Zyklon B cans, shower rooms and crematoria and in their mind they can easily construct a scenario were those people were killed with cyanide gas in the shower room. Especially if they are clueless about lice, typhus and similar diseases as well as about delousing and hygiene measure to prevent disease.

[Eye of Zyclone]

That is however true... At least they'd consider that. Show them corpses, Zyklon B cans, shower rooms and crematoria and in their mind they can easily construct a scenario were those people were killed with cyanide gas in the shower room. Especially if they are clueless about lice, typhus and similar diseases as well as about delousing and hygiene measure to prevent disease.

Ironically, the corpses on which their unwavering faith in Nazi homicidal gas chambers is based, were generated by a lack of Zyklon B (and of everything else) at the very end of WWII, not by a murderous use of Zyklon B as they wrongly believe.

[Nessie]

Crematoria were also used in most camps. And two thirds of the alleged Nazi extermination camps had no crematoria at all. The crematoria of German camps were used for the disposal of the contagious corpses generated by epidemics. A basic sanitary measure. And most humans cremate their dead anyway. Nothing sinister or genocidal in the cremation of human dead bodies itself.

There is something sinister about the usage of Krema I, 1941-2 and Kremas II to V, 1943-4. Evidence gathering, has pieced together chronologies for each building, and what it was used for.

Just a debunked biased distortion and cherry-picking of the paper trail on those buildings. And for info, Holocaust revisionists talked extensively about the crematoria of Auschwitz. Quite off topic anyway. This thread is about the alleged murderous euphemisms regarding the gas-chamber atrocity story.

The paper trail was of the construction of heated undressing rooms, ventilated gas chambers, mass corpse cremation ovens and barracks to store property. That paper trail, matches the chronology of usage provided by eyewitnesses who worked inside the Kremas. That evidence, is why historians state that "special" was a murderous euphemism, when it was used in documents, in 1943 and 1944, pertaining to the Kremas.

[Nessie]

Delousing chambers were used in most camps. But, what were the Kremas used for? Evidence of usage is needed to determine that. For some reason, so-called revisionists like to gather all sorts of evidence, except that which directly relates to the use of the Kremas. Why is that?

No derails, please. We have multiple threads on these specific points.

Here for example
viewtopic.php?t=315

My point is that only contemporaneous evidence pertaining to the Kremas, in 1943-4, can evidence what any euphemisms, primarily the use of the word "special", meant.

[Stubble]

Least wise that's certainly the story with regard to the images we were all shown in school.

Dachau, Bergen Belsen etc...

Nordhausen was especially ballsy, they used images of allied bombing victims that were receiving healthcare as evidence of a 'systemic extermination'.

Zyklon B was a life saving chemical used to combat epidemic typhus in the camp system...

[Eye of Zyclone]

The paper trail was of the construction of heated undressing rooms, ventilated gas chambers, mass corpse cremation ovens and barracks to store property. That paper trail, matches the chronology of usage provided by eyewitnesses who worked inside the Kremas. That evidence, is why historians state that "special" was a murderous euphemism, when it was used in documents, in 1943 and 1944, pertaining to the Kremas.

No, court historians say that "special" was a murderous euphemism because saying otherwise is no option. Saying otherwise would amount to denying the existence of god(s) in a theocracy. And even court historians know that there are countless of eyewitnesses to all kinds of fictional things. But they don't pretend to believe in bigfoots, ghosts and alien abductions because there are way more eyewitnesses to those things than to Nazi gas chambers.