So Kriesel's wrongdoings areNessie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:46 pmhttps://www.uklfi.com/doctor-suspended- ... ic-conduct....
"UKLFI provided photographic evidence of Dr Kriesels attending multiple pro-Palestinian demonstrations in London holding a hand-drawn placard depicting the Israeli flag alongside the words: “rape, steal, cry, kill, cheat, lie.”
This sign, aimed at Israelis as a whole, constitutes a sweeping racist generalisation and a clear example of antisemitism. She carried the placard at events on 4 June, 19 July, and 6 September 2025, and was also photographed giving an obscene gesture towards Jewish counter-demonstrators.
UKLFI had also documented some of Dr Kriesels’ extremist posts on X, where she repeatedly claimed that Jews—Zionist or not—embodied “supremacy,” described Judaism as “racist, imperialist and genocidal,” and stated she was “sickened” by Jews.
The UKLFI complaint highlighted that Dr Kriesels publicly characterised Hamas as “oppressed resistance fighters” and “not terrorists,” potentially breaching Section 12(1A) of the Terrorism Act 2000, which prohibits expressing support for a designated terrorist organisation."
1) she accused Israel of raping, theft, crying(!), killing, cheating and lying.
2) claimed Jews were supremacist, racist, imperialist and genocidal.
3) that she called the Palestinian terrorists "oppressed freedom fighters".
And she was arrested for these, very commonplace observations/ opinions.
I am very surprised, or would be very surprised by this, if not for the obvious sissy politics we have had in the UK, since at least 2016. I am a Briton too, one who was vehemently opposed to our invasion of Iraq in 2003 because it was patently obvious that it was totally a war of aggression by the UK and the USA. What has alarmed me ever since is that our devious, warmongering Prime Minister suffered not the slightest consequence for it, and was never even voted out of office. Prime Ministers these days don't even make it to their first chance of re-election. Instead, they are replaced on the whims of the civil service and their allies abroad to suit various Globalist agendas.
The consequences of that war have been devastating to Europe, the UK and the Middle East, and the USA looks like it is fatally in debt because of it, but the outrage just died down. We bombed the Middle East and Afghanistan and imported the survivors - a course of action entirely in keeping with Blairism, whose government gave us your Terrorism Act 2000. But what was by far the biggest outrage of the century so far? The British people voted to leave the European Union and become like the majority of nations on Earth, non-members! Those that supported such a move have long suffered the boring litany or terms in your post, e.g., cheats, liars, even supremacists, racist (of course), and even genocidal, given that they were obviously also admonished as "literal Hitler". This shrill and artificial outrage has totally deranged political and civic life in the UK.
So it is not at all surprising that the Globalist Left can get so selectively touchy over anything related to identity politics. It is also tragic-hilarious that the deranged Labour Party does not really know what to do with itself, after its default victory in the latest General Election, veering from defending wonky Antifa, Jew-affectionate positions (e.g., attacking Corbyn's antisemitism) to placating its massive Muslim column.
So having imported and established a large Muslim presence, its simultaneous placation of the UK Zionist interests, the UK is now giving the World a jaw-dropping spectacle of improvised, on-the-fly tyranny. What and who will the UK government come to rely on to "manage" its divided population? It has no real armed forces, a camp and flabby Police Force that is ever more hated and all against a background of gargantuan, zombie statist structures like the chronically failing National Health Service behemoth, that is itself wholly dependent on the Ponzi Scheme of ever more immigration to staff it and ever more of their immigrant families to need it, whilst they fleece the Social benefits system.
What a pickle! Every one of the claims Kriesel made is reasonable, some require some context, some are just plain facts. All could be made toward either side in this wider Arab-Zionist rigmarole, to some extent. Even theft; not sure Jews should not feel cheated by paying a non-Muslim tax in the days before they won their state.
Interesting how the UK Police select their arrestees - the targets are those that suit best the Police's monumental cowardice. Middle class mothers and elderly women with osteoporotic spines are perfect! Beside the point...
It strikes me as very odd that Nessie, or anyone, would honestly think that Kriesel's comments are arrest-worthy.
On a wider view of the whole thread and its question, well, yes, it is legitimate for any collective action, i.e., on behalf of a group, to be eligible for moral assessment and, where found to be in the wrong, due criticism. Otherwise you get this weird Casper the Friendly Ghost Phenomenon:
Casper can shove a material vase off its stand by first moving his immaterial hand through the solid wall.
Jews are the collective that suffered material harm owing to National Socialism, but any negative effect of the collective actions they make to benefit themselves is immaterial.
I am a Christian, raised as a Roman Catholic in a very Jewish area, with many Jewish friends over the years. My mother's maternal line is Jewish just two wombs above her (I would be a shoo-in for a Jewish convert, though there is no family memory of any Jewish tradition-keeping or observance, and there is the whole coming of Jesus thing). I do sway on the whole Israel question. I am now still vaguely in support of the state's continuance, but I think it has become a peril to many nations, not least the USA, where a heavy dose of Logan Act would help. Talk about a troubling alliance!
So, the only recourse against this conclusion (Jews may well be accountable for collective actions, just like the evil Nazi Brexiteers are) is for Nessie and the dearly deported Confused Jew to say "not all Jews!". Well, yes, great, but it does not get you very far. It is entirely legitimate for nations to want to treat the Jewish state as an independent, foreign state and hence rid itself of things like AIPAC or mitigate the effects of the widespread sayanim. If one wanted to dress this up nicely, one could say, "It aint all Jews, we just reject the Isreali spy and influencer network" - not sure that would keep the UK Police away from elderly female protestors or AIPAC away from US elected representatives, though. Gotta feeling that Caspar's ghostly arm would soon knock the vase off the stand and still scream "Antisemitism!".
" nonsense (skip ahead to ~3 minutes to avoid much of this), which is especially common on videos which are critical of Israel/Zionism, since presumably the creators (uneducated on revisionism) feel an insecurity or need to prove how 'non-antisemitic' they are, even when the 'Holocaust' is hardly relevant to their topic. In any case, this video is helpful and effective at making the case that the issue is not just 'Netanyahu's government' -- it's "the Jews".