The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 8:34 pm
Tell me you don't understand usurpation while showing me usurpation again....

This really is a thread for a separate topic but the West had evolved to a more enlightened state was that not going to discriminate against other races or nationalities.

There were Jews involved in the Civil Rights Movement but that was hardly a Jewish led movement.

he 1960s were a time of major social change in the U.S., with growing pressure to end racially discriminatory laws. The quota system (favoring Northern and Western Europeans) was seen as inconsistent with the civil rights reforms happening domestically.

The U.S. was promoting democracy and freedom abroad, especially in the Global South, while maintaining a racist immigration policy at home. This hypocrisy undermined America's image internationally, especially with newly decolonized nations.

President Lyndon B. Johnson, along with lawmakers like Senator Philip Hart and Representative Emanuel Celler, championed the bill as part of a broader push for liberal reforms. The act was signed at the foot of the Statue of Liberty, symbolizing a break from past prejudices. LBJ and Philip Hart were both not Jewish while Celler was, but if it were not Celler, somebody else would have done it.

The national origins quotas were widely seen as outdated and discriminatory. There was increasing bipartisan consensus that immigration should not be based on race or nationality. The law created a new framework that prioritized family reunification and skilled immigrants rather than racial or national origin.

Dual loyalty, that's being a jew and putting judea first, not the country on which you live, but, you are well aware of this, there is no way you are so dense as not to see that.

Nobody's primary loyalty is to their "country". They put themselves first, their family, their religion. Even if do you promote a change in immigration policy, which was not driven by Jews or solely supported by Jews, how did that promote "Jewish interests" ahead of national interests? A ton of Jews had already been living in the US by that point and it was obviously not an exclusively white country by that point.

Both of those things cause expulsion.

You have to explain to me how supporting immigration reforms to allow more diversity is "treasonous". That greatly benefitted our country in many ways. Maybe it hurt white nationalists, who didn't want other races in for cultural reasons, but then you are the one who is putting your loyalty to non-Jewish white people above the national interest.

Then there are also the conflicting moral structures of our peoples and there is also the fact that your people hold a burning ember of contempt for the people of any nation that hosts them.

What conflicting moral structures are those? Can you be more specific. There are always conflicting moral questions regardless of whether a society has Jews in it or not.

Where I read 'there is wisdom in a multitude of council', you read 'by deception thou shalt do war'.

I'm not sure what you mean here. You are promoting diversity in the first half. In the second half, you are quoting Mossad's slogan. All espionage, regardless of national origin, is engaged in deception. It has been that way since the moment that man crawled out of the primordial sludge. That quote is misleading.

I'd wonder if you had any idea how much you just ignored, but, I know you do indeed know. You aren't even talking to me, you are performing for future readers that may happen across this thread.

You are right, that is a topic for another thread.

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 9:06 pm I'd wonder if you had any idea how much you just ignored, but, I know you do indeed know. You aren't even talking to me, you are performing for future readers that may happen across this thread.

You are right, that is a topic for another thread.

That was some very moving music.

If I missed something, feel free to bring that to my attention. However, that video has a ton of false and misleading information in it. In 1933, Jews made up approximately 0.76% of the population of the Weimar Republic (Germany). Today, 2.4% of the US population is Jewish.

A few questions for you:
How exactly did Jewish ethnocentrism harm the Weimar Republic? I thought you are OK with ethnocentrism but you are opposed to the idea of a state within a state. How did that exist in Weimar Germany and how is that different from your concept of white nationalism?

The biggest issue that I think the video gets wrong is that it blames Jews for creating the conditions that led to the rise of the Nazis. I'm not sure what Hitler truly believed, but he scapegoated for nearly all of Germany's problems to energize and mobilize political will. Elon and Trump are doing something similar in the US today except they are not blaming Jews this time.

Here is what ChatGPT says created conditions for the Nazis to rise to power:

1. Post-WWI, the Treaty of Versailles imposed massive reparations on Germany. By 1923, hyperinflation wiped out savings, destabilized the middle class, and undermined faith in the Weimar Republic.

2. The Great Depression rocked the global economy beginning in 1929. U.S. loans to Germany (Dawes Plan) were withdrawn, devastating an already fragile economy. Unemployment soared (over 30%), creating fertile ground for extremist parties promising stability and national revival.

3. The Versailles Treaty was viewed as unjust and humiliating (e.g., Article 231: war guilt clause). Germans felt stripped of dignity, territory, and military pride.

4. The Weimar Republic had weak democratic institutions, it was unstable, and had frequent changes in government. Political violence from both the left (communists) and right (freikorps) undermined confidence in liberal democracy.

5. The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia (1917) and short-lived communist uprisings in Germany (e.g., Spartacist uprising) led many conservatives and centrists to see Hitler as a bulwark against Marxism.

6. Nazi rhetoric united people around hatred of common enemies (Jews, communists, Versailles signatories) and promoted a myth of a betrayed Germany ("stab-in-the-back" legend).


It’s true that Jews were overrepresented in some elite fields like journalism, academia, finance, medicine, and the arts. Jewish families placed a strong emphasis on education as a route to success, particularly given historical exclusion from landowning and military careers. That is still more or less the case today and education has been a strong Jewish value for centuries.

Some prominent communists in Germany were Jewish but most Jews were not communists. In fact, many German Jews were bourgeois, patriotic, and non-radical—often trying to assimilate fully.

While some banking families (e.g., Rothschilds) were Jewish, German finance was dominated by non-Jews. The causes of hyperinflation and economic collapse had far more to do with state monetary policy, reparations, and global conditions than with any ethnic group.

Jewish artists and intellectuals contributed to modernist movements. But labeling cultural innovation as "decadence" is a subjective ideological judgment. The Nazis redefined modernism as degeneracy to target Jews and others who did not fit their idealized Aryan identity.

Many Jews supported the liberal democratic system as it offered civil rights and emancipation. This made them targets in a society that was increasingly disillusioned with democracy.

I'm sure the jewish confetti had nothing to fucking do with it 'eh?

You can't seriously be this dense.

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 10:03 pm I'm sure the jewish confetti had nothing to fucking do with it 'eh?

You can't seriously be this dense.

What Jewish confetti? What are you talking about?

Takes a wheelbarrow full of it to buy a loaf of bread...

I'm not sure what you mean here. You are promoting diversity in the first half. In the second half, you are quoting Mossad's slogan. All espionage, regardless of national origin, is engaged in deception. It has been that way since the moment that man crawled out of the primordial sludge. That quote is misleading.

For clarity, that is the exact same line from the Torah contrasted as found in the King James Version and yours.

Stubble wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 1:08 am For clarity, that is the exact same line from the Torah contrasted as found in the King James Version and yours.

I don't know what you are talking about so I would need to see a source. All war is fought by deception in some capacity. Its how the American colonists defeated the British during the Revolutionary War.

Proverbs 24:6

I apparently cut the KJV in half. In any case, the contrast of the passage is quite glaring.

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/24-6.htm

Interesting video by a history prodigy "Explaining Every Jewish Migration/Expulsion"

Stubble wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 10:10 am Proverbs 24:6

I apparently cut the KJV in half. In any case, the contrast of the passage is quite glaring.

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/24-6.htm

The Bible contains many stories involving deception. Sometimes it's condemned, other times it seems tolerated or even used to fulfill divine purposes. In general, intent and consequence shape the moral evaluation.

Selfish or harmful deceit is condemned while deception to protect life, fulfill prophecy, or resist evil is sometimes shown in a neutral or even favorable light.

Here are several Biblical examples of where deception is accepted or even celebrated:

The Hebrew midwives lie to Pharaoh (Exodus 1): They claim Hebrew women give birth too quickly to kill the babies as ordered. Their civil disobedience is followed by God rewarding them.

Rahab hides the Israelite spies and lies to the king of Jericho (Joshua 2): Her deception saves the spies and helps Israel conquer Jericho. She is later praised in the New Testament (Hebrews 11:31, James 2:25).

David feigns madness (1 Samuel 21): David pretends to be insane to escape from the Philistine king Achish.

God sends a “lying spirit” (1 Kings 22:19–23): God allows a spirit to deceive King Ahab’s prophets to bring about his downfall. This passage is theologically debated and reflects ancient views of divine sovereignty.

Religious studies have many forums online.

My main point was that what you take from 'the word' and what I take from 'the word' are different. Fundamentally.

Stubble wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 11:36 am Religious studies have many forums online.

My main point was that what you take from 'the word' and what I take from 'the word' are different. Fundamentally.

I see the Torah as a powerful form of ancient wisdom literature. I don't take it literally as absolute truth or perfect. There are plenty of things that I and many other Jews would disagree with that other Jews and Israel do.