AI Insights on the 'Holocaust'

[Nessie]

Now you go through all that text that you linked and show me EXACTLY and I am sure you never read yourself, what was done to make these super ovens. These ovens are not rocket science. I am in no mood to wade through a bunch of unrelated crap and waste my time. GET TO THE PIOINT! What were done to these ovens??

The Topf & Sons testimony is best read in its entirety. I have explained how you can do a simple CtrlF word search to find the documents. Anyway, I suppose I should assume you are not up to simple research and reading. Here are examples;

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=61650

"Question: In what respects did the construction of the crematoria installed in the concentration camps differ from the common crematoria installed by the company in various countries until 1933?
Answer: In the common crematoria there was only one huge opening (muffle), into which a coffin with one corpse could be introduced without difficulty. In the crematoria of the concentration camps the ovens had not one but three openings, and there were five ovens in one crematorium.
Thus in one concentration camp crematorium there were fifteen openings (muffles), instead of one like in a common crematorium.
In a common crematorium the corpse in the coffin was introduced into the opening by means of a movable car on rollers, but in the concentration camp crematoria the corpse was introduced into the muffle on a hand-carried litter."

That is why comparisons with normal cremations are wrong. There was no coffin and they had been designed to cremate more than one corpse at a time.

"The crematorium for mass incineration should be developed after the principle of the assembly line, and into the oven corpses should be incessantly introduced for cremation by mechanical means.
The corpses should get into the oven under the load of their own weight, falling by themselves upon the grid on a fireproof surface with an inclination of 40 degrees and burning under the effect of the fire. The corpses themselves were to serve as an additional source of fuel."

There was a continuous cremation process, which reduces the amount of fuel required. Then, the engineers knew that each muffle was taking more than one corpse;

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... ce-on.html

"Report from Fritz Sanders of 14 September 1942 on "stuffing the individual muffles with several corpses" [Schüle, Industrie und Holocaust, p. 443]"

They had produced a fast, high capacity cremation system;

"Letter of construction office Auschwitz to construction office Stuthof on "an incineration takes about ½ hour according to the Topf company” in the three-muffle oven [Mattogno, IFCDA, p. 424]"

It does not matter that you do not believe that level of engineering and design was possible. What matters is what is evidenced to have happened and that is fast, multiple corpse cremations.

[Fred Ziffel]

In modern day ovens, corpse are loaded inside a cardboard box. So how long do you think that cardboard box is going to last? Modern day cremation facilities do not necessarily use caskets

Corpse into those Topf ovens were loaded with those corpse loaders you see here. No sense in getting too close to an open cremation door stoking 700-to-800-degree C. What is a litter? I have no idea why you feel these corpse loaders speed up the process. Modern day units have automatic corpse loaders as you can see in the photo so big deal!

Here is a communication from Topf to Mauthausen command on November 1, 1940 explaining the capabilities of the Topf ovens. One body per hour is clearly stated. The oven in this case is a double retort thus can do 2 bodies an hour.

You stated: “They had produced a fast, high-capacity cremation system;” :
OK but nothing showing the high-capacity cremation technology. Here Mr. Ivan Lagace who testified in the 1988 Zundel trial states 184 per day. So, I have a choice, do I believe you or him? He was allowed to testify as an expert witness in a Canada court.
Again, two adult bodies you have to evaporate the water that ranges about 65% of the body mass.
You said: “burning under the effect of the fire.” Hogwash, those Topf and Kori ovens radiated heat, there is no direct fire like we have in modern day units. Those 1940s era unit will do the job, but not at a rate you think they can. Modern day units? One hour for every 45 Kgs
You said: “It does not matter that you do not believe that level of engineering and design was possible. What matters is what is evidenced to have happened and that is fast, multiple corpse cremations.”
Here you just make shit up as some kind of viable argument or a defense. Worthless statement from you. I believe what Ivan Lagace tells me.

[Fred Ziffel]

More attachments to support my arguments
Ivan Lagace
example of direct fire cremation ovens

[Nessie]

.... So, I have a choice, do I believe you or him? ...

No, your choice is do you believe a single expert witness who was paid to give expert evidence in favour of a defendant, or eyewitnesses who were at Auschwitz and designed the modifications to the Kremas? Bear in mind, those German engineers are corroborated.

You said: “It does not matter that you do not believe that level of engineering and design was possible. What matters is what is evidenced to have happened and that is fast, multiple corpse cremations.”
Here you just make shit up as some kind of viable argument or a defense. Worthless statement from you. I believe what Ivan Lagace tells me.

No, that "shit" is me pointing out that your doubts do not logically prove no cremations. You have fallen into the classic Holocaust denier trap, of failing to recognise the logical fallacy of argument from incredulity. Just because Lagace does not believe the Kremas could have cremated so many corpses, does not prove there were no such mass cremations.

[Fred Ziffel]

take your medicine

[Nessie]

take your medicine

You need to learn about logic and the gathering of evidence.

[Nessie]

With AI the gathering of evidence has never been easier. It can then order the evidence chronologically, to produce an evidenced history of what took place. It can advise on the hierarchy of that evidence and how it converges to a logical conclusion. There is no longer any excuse for people to fall for the blatantly obvious Holocaust denial conspiracy myth.

[Fred Ziffel]

take your medicine

You need to learn about logic and the gathering of evidence.

It is not coming from you

[Nessie]

take your medicine

You need to learn about logic and the gathering of evidence.

It is not coming from you

Use AI. Ask it to gather evidence for you, to prove what happened inside the Kremas at Birkenau 1943-4.

[Fred Ziffel]

take your medicine