If Auschwitz "gas chambers" were "bomb shelters", how do revisionists explain the holes?

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A 1943 inventory list does refer to a “Drahtnetzeinschiebvorrichtung” (wire mesh insertion device) and “Holzblenden” (wooden covers)

I suppose that does muster some evidence for theoretical kula columns and insertion covers.

Do people have a better explanation for those in the inventory?
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For LK-2. Herr Hill has a post about this in my Kula Columns thread.

viewtopic.php?p=2903#p2903

This post;
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The page from Technique featuring the document, courtesy of PHDN.org Holocaust-History. Org
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Thank you Stubble. Shall have a read. I’ll try to stop posting questions and use the search function in future.
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It's no sweat bud, cross posting saves future readers confusion and in my opinion is a good practice, I'd hate for someone to read this thread and miss the other.

Some further reading about gas tight air raid shelters;

https://ihr.org/journal/v18n4p-7_crowell.html

The emergency egress for Krema I was a tunnel. I'm unsure of the egress for Kremas II and III.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that egress was through a set of gas filter assemblies, as these filter holders, by design, were to permit emergency egress.

Also, this article confirms some of my earlier statements about the peephole/viewport.

(The sources in this article are outstanding and would keep me busy for a month)

This thread from Curious Soul also merits a mention;
viewtopic.php?p=2045#p2045
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mengelemyth wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 10:39 pm …What do Holocaust proponents claim happened to the kula columns?
It’s a bit weird they were never found.
Not so “weird” if they never existed. ;)

Michel Kula was a liar. He’s a rather classic lie-witness eye-witness.

What I find “weird” is that anybody still believes anything the guy said about the myth of mass-gassings.

He claimed in court that trucks bringing jews to the alleged gas chambers had a tipping mechanism, and that there was a concrete ramp, by which victims slid straight down into the gas chamber.
He claimed the gassed corpses were ‘greenish’, when as Fritz Berg so effectively emphasised, people poisoned by HCN gas actually turn a very noticeable lobster pink.

Germar Rudolf’s encyclopedia has a section on him.
His metalworking team allegedly manufactured Zyklon-B introduction columns for the Crematoria II and III. However, in two separate depositions, he gave entirely different dimensions for them. The first description made them too large to fit into the claimed space, and the second version made them so small and narrow that they could not have functioned as he claimed. Finally, there is no material or documental trace of these columns. For example, had they been installed, they had to have been bolted to the concrete floors of these morgues, yet no traces of any such anchoring points can be found in the floors.
The vast documentation of orders submitted to the metalworking shop has no trace of such columns ever being manufactured.
It was his research that I previously provided you a link for.

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mengelemyth wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 10:39 pm Interesting points. I agree, Krema I is so incredibly dubious.

Also: re the alleged holes at KII and KIII. What do Holocaust proponents claim happened to the kula columns? It’s a bit weird they were never found.
You may not be realizing the implications there. If Krema I is a fraud, then that would mean the testimonies claiming gassings there are fraudulent. It would discredit Rudolf Hoess, among others.
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In addition to Herr Stubble's links to various posts and threads, I will add this thread to the mix also:

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=549

Here we demonstrate (amongst other things) that the items in question are inventoried to the undressing room (LK2). To mis-attribute them to the "gas chamber) ie LK1 is at best disingenuous, and at worst intentionally deceitful and manipulative. They categorically cannot be a murder weapon if they are listed in the wrong place where no murders are alleged to have occurred.
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HansHill wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2026 4:07 pm In addition to Herr Stubble's links to various posts and threads, I will add this thread to the mix also:

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=549

Here we demonstrate (amongst other things) that the items in question are inventoried to the undressing room (LK2). To mis-attribute them to the "gas chamber) ie LK1 is at best disingenuous, and at worst intentionally deceitful and manipulative. They categorically cannot be a murder weapon if they are listed in the wrong place where no murders are alleged to have occurred.
Even if we grant out of hand that they were allocated to LK-1, that's not a murder weapon. It is emergency egress for an anti-gas shelter/air raid shelter.

As air raid shelters, they would have had to have emergency egress. I know Krema 1 had a tunnel, I don't know what Kremas II and III used.

Of course, we would have to have holes for that. Those aren't forthcoming.

Mengelemyth did say there were some hoops cast in at least one of the concrete openings of LK-1. Hoops would be acceptable for mounting one of these, although, not that mannesmann one from Fenster.

I'm curious if Mengelemyth could provide an image of one of these openings with hoops.
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