Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Keen:
A - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??
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Nessie:
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Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?


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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:35 am ...
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?
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It is in an area with trees, which cannot be geophysically surveyed to find pits.

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

"Similarly, a large area of defined vegetation, located in the south east corner of what
would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images,
is still evident on the ground (F31; Figure 4.23). Although inaccessible to survey
equipment, an inspection of this area revealed a considerable number of artefacts
located on the surface, including spoons, mugs and other metal objects, some of
which revealed maker's symbols (Plate 4.26; Figure 4.28). This area has been
suggested by Laponder (2004) as having been the camp's waste disposal site. In this
instance, although representing an obstruction to archaeological work, the
vegetation has prevented access and disturbance to this part of the site, which
appears to have been protected since the war."

Have you read C S-C report?
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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??
Nessie:
True
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?
Nessie:
True
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?

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Nessie:
It is in an area with trees
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?

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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:07 pm
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??
Nessie:
True
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?
Nessie:

True
It is true if they can excavate, it is not true if they only use geophysical survey equipment such as GPR.
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?[/b]

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Nessie:
It is in an area with trees
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?

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It is the area "located in the south east corner of what would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images, is still evident on the ground (F31...". F31 on the plan/aerial photo above, is located to the right of the number 1.

No more answers from me, until you answer my question, have you read C S-C thesis/report here?

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf
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Nessie wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:31 pm
Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:07 pm
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??
Nessie:
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?
Nessie:

True
It is true if they can excavate, it is not true if they only use geophysical survey equipment such as GPR.
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?[/b]

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Nessie:
It is in an area with trees
Where is the Treblinka II garbage pit Nessie?

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It is the area "located in the south east corner of what would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images, is still evident on the ground (F31...". F31 on the plan/aerial photo above, is located to the right of the number 1.

No more answers from me, until you answer my question, have you read C S-C thesis/report here?

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf
Outline the garbage pit Roberto.
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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:45 pm ....

Outline the garbage pit Roberto.
I am not Roberto. Address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, no abuse, no shouting and answer my question as to whether you have read C S-C thesis here;

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

Then I will locate the "garbage pit" for a second time, for you.
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Nessie wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:48 pm
Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:45 pm ....

Outline the garbage pit Roberto.
I am not Roberto. Address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, no abuse, no shouting and answer my question as to whether you have read C S-C thesis here;

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

Then I will locate the "garbage pit" for a second time, for you.
Look at Roberta run!
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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:56 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:48 pm
Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:45 pm ....

Outline the garbage pit Roberto.
I am not Roberto. Address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, no abuse, no shouting and answer my question as to whether you have read C S-C thesis here;

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

Then I will locate the "garbage pit" for a second time, for you.
Look at Roberta run!
I am not Roberta either. When you address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, there is no abuse and you answer my questions, you get answers. When you do anything else, you get no answer. Why are you so afraid and run from debate, when you can do simple things to get a debate with me?
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Re: Why do the reality deniers run from this simple question? [non-nefarious diggings]

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Nessie wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:57 pm
Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:56 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:48 pm

I am not Roberto. Address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, no abuse, no shouting and answer my question as to whether you have read C S-C thesis here;

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

Then I will locate the "garbage pit" for a second time, for you.
Look at Roberta run!
I am not Roberta either. When you address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, there is no abuse and you answer my questions, you get answers. When you do anything else, you get no answer. Why are you so afraid and run from debate, when you can do simple things to get a debate with me?
Look at Roberta run!
If the physical evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then that claim is false.
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Nessie, did CSC prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9 and F16 are not garbage pits - Yes. - or - No. - ??

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Nessie:

"a large area of defined vegetation, located in the south east corner of what
would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images,
is still evident on the ground (F31; Figure 4.23). Although inaccessible to survey
equipment, an inspection of this area revealed a considerable number of artefacts
located on the surface, including spoons, mugs and other metal objects, some of
which revealed maker's symbols (Plate 4.26; Figure 4.28).
Did CSC inspect this area with a metal detector?

Are you alleging that the above description is describing this:

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Yes. - or - No. - ??
If the physical evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then that claim is false.
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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:14 pm Nessie, did CSC prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9 and F16 are not garbage pits - Yes. - or - No. - ??
Sorry, looking for an answer to my question first. Have you read her report? Yes or no?
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Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??

Nessie's answer:

True

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?
Nessie's answer:

True
Nessie, did CSC prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9 and F16 are not garbage pits - Yes. - or - No. - ??

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Nessie:

"a large area of defined vegetation, located in the south east corner of what
would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images,
is still evident on the ground (F31; Figure 4.23). Although inaccessible to survey
equipment, an inspection of this area revealed a considerable number of artefacts
located on the surface, including spoons, mugs and other metal objects, some of
which revealed maker's symbols (Plate 4.26; Figure 4.28).
Are you alleging that the above description is describing this:

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Yes. - or - No. - ??
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Keen wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:59 pm Nessie, did CSC prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9 and F16 are not garbage pits - Yes. - or - No. - ??

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Nessie:

"a large area of defined vegetation, located in the south east corner of what
would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images,
is still evident on the ground (F31; Figure 4.23). Although inaccessible to survey
equipment, an inspection of this area revealed a considerable number of artefacts
located on the surface, including spoons, mugs and other metal objects, some of
which revealed maker's symbols (Plate 4.26; Figure 4.28).
Are you alleging that the above description is describing this:

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Sorry, looking for an answer to my question first. Have you read her report? Yes or no?

Link to it here;

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf
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Sorry, looking for an answers to these questions first.
Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??

Nessie's answer:

True

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?
Nessie's answer:

True
Nessie, which of the folloing: G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9, F16 - did CSC prove are not garbage pits: _?_.

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Nessie:

"a large area of defined vegetation, located in the south east corner of what
would have been the Living Camp area, which was visible on wartime aerial images,
is still evident on the ground (F31; Figure 4.23). Although inaccessible to survey
equipment, an inspection of this area revealed a considerable number of artefacts
located on the surface, including spoons, mugs and other metal objects, some of
which revealed maker's symbols (Plate 4.26; Figure 4.28).
Are you alleging that the above description is describing this:

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Yes. - or - No. - ??

Show us a photo of the alleged garbage pit descirbed above.

Show us a photo of what was allegedly discovered in this alleged garbage pit.


Now let's watch Roberto run!
If the physical evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then that claim is false.
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