Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 7:41 pm
Other contemporary documents also support this, such as notes of Hitler's 'Table talks' of the same time period, as well as Goebbels' specific diary entry regarding his reading of his copy of the
Wannsee minutes. These can NOT be cancelled out or nullified by other documents with more vague or general talk of brutal or even murderous treatment of groups of Jews.
This is because the contention is that the
Wannsee Conference and the term "final solution" used there and later, referred to a plan to "systematically" kill
ALL Jews in Axis occupied Europe. It is NOT the contention that the
Wannsee Conference and the term "final solution" was about killing some Jews when deemed necessary or convenient and deporting others.
Here is the Goebbels diary entry.
I read a detailed report from the SD and police regarding a final solution of the Jewish Question. This involves a tremendous number of new viewpoints. The Jewish Question must be solved within a pan-European frame. There are more than 11 million Jews in Europe. They will have to be concentrated first in the East; perhaps later after the war, an island can be assigned to them, such as Madagascar. In any case, there can be no peace in Europe until the last Jews are totally excluded from the European territory.
This raises a large number of very delicate questions. What happens to half-Jews? In-laws? Jewish spouses? Evidently we still have quite a lot to do, and in the context of solving this problem, undoubtedly a lot of personal tragedies will ensue. But that’s unavoidable. The situation is now ripe for a final solution of the Jewish Question. Later generations will no longer have the energy or the instinctive alertness. That’s why we are doing well to proceed radically and consistently. The task we are assuming today will be an advantage and blessing to our descendants. (7 Mar 1942)
A few comments
1) There can be no question at all that he is referring to some summary of
Wannsee. The same 11M is found in the
Wannsee minutes. And in the second paragraph, the discussion about the "delicate questions" also mirrors the discussion at
Wannsee.
2) Goebbels uses the term "final solution" here and this was also used at
Wannsee. Note also the date in March 1942.
3) He is evidently unaware that the Jews were going to be executed en masse as he thinks they going to sent to Madagascar "after the war."
4) The "code language" argument doesn't work here because holohoaxsters cite other passages of the diary as incriminating and which would have been worded differently if the goal had been to hide things.
5) It is not tenable to argue that Goebbels would not have known at this point. I have seen some people try to claim this (bombs did on the old forum and I think I recall Cockerill trying this as well). But not only does that defy all common sense, it also contradicts the mainstream scholars. Gerlach's theory for example (which seems to be the one favored among online anti-revisionists) is that Hitler ordered the a full extermination of the Jews in Dec 1941 right after declaring war against the USA. And the evidence for this that Hitler is quoted as reiterated his "prophecy" in a private speech right after the declaration of war. Goebbels refers to this in his diary. Point being, if you are going to use the diary to "prove" when Hitler ordered the final solution, you can also claim that Goebbels was in the dark.
And this Goebbels diary entry isn't an isolated example. Here for example, we have another late reference to the "final solution" where it very obviously does not mean what we have always been told it meant.
In the meantime the war against the Soviet Union has made it possible to use other territory for the final solution. The Fuehrer has accordingly decided that the Jews shall not be sent to Madagascar, but to the East. Madagascar therefore need no longer be considered for the final solution.
—Franz Rademacher, memo, 10 Feb 1942 (NG-5770)