Transcontinental wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 6:07 am
A lot of "Anti Semites", especially online, use verses that are supposedly from the Jewish Talmud.
This is too vague. How can we tell you if something is accurate unless you present us with a specific claim for evaluation?
Speaking generally, some of the controversial Talmud quotes are absolutely real.
Gittin 57a for example has the passage that says Jesus will be boiled in excrement. This can be easily confirmed by looking it up online.
Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement. As the Master said: Anyone who mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement. And this was his sin, as he mocked the words of the Sages. The Gemara comments: Come and see the difference between the sinners of Israel and the prophets of the nations of the world. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, whereas Jesus the Nazarene, who was a Jewish sinner, sought their well-being.
https://www.sefaria.org/Gittin.57a.4?lang=bi
Some Jewish apologists have tried to argue that the passage might refer to some other guy named Jesus, but that's strikes me as a very fanciful, optics-motivated interpretation.
Now, most people posting random memes online are not Talmud scholars (or scholars at all for that matter), so I'm sure a lot of what they post is incorrect or mangled in some way. So what? If you are serious about this, focus on serious, published material, not random internet posts.
Here is a mirror of a now deleted Wikipedia page with some good material.
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... article%29
See in particular this historical episode from Medieval France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputation_of_Paris
Clemens & Blair has reprinted and translated a 1929 text by Erich Bischoff, a German scholar. This is on my tbr but I haven't gotten to it yet.
https://www.clemensandblair.com/catalog ... chan-aruch
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2 ... han-aruch/
My general thought on this matter is that a lot (probably most) religious texts have weird stuff in there. I am generally willing to give people a pass on this because weird passages, even if authentic, don't
necessarily reflect the views of the current adherents to the religion. And in the case of the Talmud in particular, my understanding is that it is essential a collection of rabbinical debates, in which case we would certainly not expect every view expressed to be universal even at the time. Problematic passages in the Talmud
per se do not bother me. Where it becomes politically relevant is the extent to which there is any indication of Jewish hostility toward "goyim" that survives till this day. And I think there is a strong case that in the case of the Jews, the history does show hostility toward "the goyim" and I do think this survives down to the present. And it's not only "anti-Semites" who have acknowledge this. Israel Shahak has argued that the oppression of the Palestinians in Israel is a result of this mentality. See his book
Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years.
It became apparent to me, as drawing on knowledge acquired in my youth, I began to study the Talmudic laws governing the relations between Jews and non-Jews, that neither Zionism, including its seemingly secular part, nor Israeli politics since the inception of the State of Israel, nor particularly the policies of Jewish supporters of Israel in the diaspora, could be understood unless the deeper influence of those laws, and the worldview which they both create and express is taken into account.
Ron Unz has discussed similar issues in this article that is free online.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... -religion/
If the Gentile population became aware of these Jewish religious beliefs and the behaviors they promote, major problems for Jews might develop, so an elaborate methodology of subterfuge, concealment, and dissimulation has come into being over the many centuries to minimize this possibility, especially including the mistranslation of sacred texts or the complete exclusion of crucial sections.
