The CODOH Revisionist Forum

I asked Stubble a question in another thread, why he was searching so hard for the missing Jews, given his certainty that they went somewhere.

Stubble wrote: ↑Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:39 am
Regarding 'why bother', well, the open question is basically the remaining bone of contention. They aren't in the dirt on the Bug River bombs, so, they went some place. I need to show where they went, then the whole jewish question can be safely put into the annals of history.

The genocide narrative, how it came to be, and why it stood for 80+ years will of course merit study. Ultimately though, much of that research is resolved as well.

I remember in the past you asked 'who done it' and you acted like the task of setting the narrative would be 'impossible'. You failed to account for the fact that there were literal armies of propagandists working on it. Buchenwald table? The OSS. Majdanek? The Soviets. Dachau? The OSS. It just goes on and on. It wasn't 1 guy in a trenchcoat man, I can't point at some guy dressed like mcgruff the crime dog and say 'it was him!'. Ultimately, it was a group effort.

I think it's a big discussion that really requires some laying out. I guess we can start with the observation (as I remember it) that initially you were surprised to find out there was no direct resettlement evidence. Why do you think you had that reaction?

You did indeed say 'there is no evidence of resettlement', and, that did indeed give me some pause, however, the more I crack in to it, the more evidence is exposed, just like with 'The Hungarian Aktion'.

All of the evidence of resettlement gets dismissed as a 'one off' and must have occurred in a vacuum according to the orthodoxy.

For example, you have people giving interviews on camera who were transported through Treblinka, a 'Pure Death Mill'. These people don't describe people being run up the tube and gassed. They describe getting deloused, getting their heads shaved, getting camp clothes, being given a piece of bread and 'what passes for German coffee', and getting an interview before being sent to another camp. The critique is 'well, all of them went west'.

When you find people going east, demonstrably, the orthodoxy says, 'well, yes, this train load went east, but, they were really, truly, the only ones'.

The reason I am not surprised when I find a memo like the one where Speer says 'we will bust them up in to groups of 20-2,000 and send them to labor sites' is because the dead aren't where I was told they would be, and wouldn't fit as a liquid.

Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 4:07 am You did indeed say 'there is no evidence of resettlement', and, that did indeed give me some pause, however, the more I crack in to it, the more evidence is exposed, just like with 'The Hungarian Aktion'.

All of the evidence of resettlement gets dismissed as a 'one off' and must have occurred in a vacuum according to the orthodoxy.

There's definitely a lot of evidence concerning Hungarian resettlement. It's not believed to have just randomly happened, not simply an exception for abitrary reasons. There were differences w other deportations - a huge amount of international attention on this, accusations of mass slaughter, Hungarian Government was also quasi independent. See Horthy ordering an end to deportations against German wishes.

What do you think about all the evidence for resettlement here? There are probably hundreds of witness testimonies about the family camps that were set up to hold Jews. We can point to many of these camps on the map.

Mass resettlement also took place in Transnistria, and German/Austrian Jews sent to Belarus were maintained into 1942.

Why would the Soviets have destroyed their own atrocity propaganda by archiving and releasing captured German documents about the transit and resettlement of Jews deported by their number one enemy? Who would be dumb enough to do that?

No mass killer with big slaughterhouses for the industrial massacre of unwanted people would need over 42,500 (!!!) camps and ghettos to hold unwanted people.

Resettlement, why bother?

Same answer as for Israel and Palestinians, that is, because wanting some people out and wanting some people dead are 2 different things.

See all those ghettos on that map, which are documented through independent sources like different witness testimonies, german documents. They were also closed down or massively depopulated by the end of 1942. No evidence of Jews being maintained anywhere after that.

The work camps, also documented, were not exclusively for jews, nazis employed millions of slave laborers from other ethnicities.

Let's be clear, there isn't "no evidence" that a resettlement was planned, organized and, at least to some extent, carried out. This is thoroughly documented in hundreds of documents from the RSHA and related ministries, government correspondence, reports, etc. What's less documented is where exactly these Jews ended up and what happened to them after resettlement and after the war.

Members of this forum and revisionist researchers (most importantly Thomas Kues, Graf and Mattogno in their works on the Reinhard camps) have been puzzling together the pieces based on fragmentary evidence but the picture is far from clear, partly due to seemingly intentional efforts by the Soviets to bury any narrative that would be exculpatory for the Germans and would undermine the Holocaust narrative in the wake of the Nuremberg trials. This goes without saying. There are so many problems with resettlement denialism considering the mountains of evidence and individual stories/anecdotes that are utterly incompatible with exterminationism.

Quote a planning document for this supposed resettlement in the ussr for the 1.4 million polish jews that were resettled in 1942 as specified in korherrq

You only have the korherr report to evidence this, nothing else.

If the Israelis could easily erase all traces of the Palestinian villages that had been there for centuries, claiming that the Soviets couldn't possibly erase the German documentary records of the Jewish resettlement sites located in the areas captured by the Red Army during WW2 is very gullible at best and extremely mendacious and dishonest at worst. A single Soviet plane destroyed all the records about the transports of Jews to (and, a revisionist would add, from) Belzec after all.



From orthodox/antirevisionist websites :

the old railway station in Belzec. All transports with Jews deported to the death camp arrived at this station. Documentation about the transports, notably the transfer telegrams, was also kept in this building. In July 1944, two weeks before the Soviet army entered Belzec, the railway station was bombed by a single Soviet airplane. A German transport loaded with ammunition was standing in the station and was destroyed. Because of the exploding ammunition, all structures within a radius of about 250 m., including the building of railway station, were completely demolished. It was at this time that the original documentation about the transports was lost.

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... cptgs.html

The railway documents were all destroyed on July 4 1944, when a lone Russian bomber dropped one solitary bomb over Belzec which just happened to hit an ammunition train standing in the station. The Belzec railway station was completely destroyed together with all the records.

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/belzec/bel002.html

Immediately after the war, the various commissions investigating the number of victims murdered in the death camps could only estimate the numbers, which were based on an average of 100 persons to each wagon. If, for example, we take the Kolomyja transport of September 10,1942, we know that 51 freight wagons were made available and that 8,205 victims were counted-off, with so many to a wagon an average of 165. The Bill of Lading says just this, which is corroborated by the security personnel who loaded and escorted the train from Kolomyja to Belzec. The original reports submitted by the escorting security personnel of the Kolomyja transport have survived for scrutiny Even so, apart from this written evidence, we have no other documentation from the railway authorities to verify or corroborate this. To add to the difficulties for any analysis, Belzec railway station was blown up and all records destroyed in July 1944, when a lone Soviet aircraft dropped a single bomb on an ammunition train parked in the railway sidings.

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/belzec1/bel160.html

The destruction of the railway station may well be the reason why no railroad documentation of the transports to Belzec has apparently survived.

(The Belzec Death Camp: History, Biographies, Remembrance, by Chris Webb, p. 205)

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 4:51 pm If the Israelis could easily erase all traces of the Palestinian villages that had been there for centuries

Thousands of books have been written about the Nakba, what happened at specific villages, and furthermore documentary evidence of systematic ethnic cleansing was found in the Israeli archives and revealed by Israelis (the new historians). It's actually a great example of how difficult it is to suppress history, both documents and witnesses, and also that researchers are willing to push controversial . Twice as many Polish Jews were "resettled" as Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed.