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HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:49 pm
by Archie
I was under the impression that "Holocaust denial" had been banned on Twitter some time ago. Pretty sure it was. But it seems at some point after Elon Musk took ownership they started allowing it. Not sure to what extent. That's rather surprising as this is the only example I can think of where a tech giant has reverted back toward free speech. With all the others, the pattern was that they all started out pretty strong on free speech when they were building up their monopolies but they pulled the rug out during Trump's first term, with the ADL providing much of the "guidance" for what should be permitted.
This is all news to me. Whatever is going on, it seems that "X" under Elon is indeed a lot more open.
Revisionists should take advantage of this. I doubt it will last for ever, but we should use it while we can.
I just made an X account for the forum. Give it a follow if you are on there. There was a Twitter account for the old forum (not sure how much it was used), but it got suspended years ago.
https://x.com/CODOHforum76
My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:36 pm
by Archie
I just noticed there was no way to embed videos or tweets on the forum. Turns out that isn't included in stock phpBB. It's an extension. Just added it. So if you want to embed stuff from YouTube, etc, use the media embed tag. See examples below.
I got a kick out of these X posts from MMA fighter Jake Shields. Sounds like he's our guy.
Full text:
Ive been trying to put together a debate on the holocaust and have had 3 people pull out after they agreed
Every time I give them the name of who they will be debating and they pull out within 24 hours
If anyone with good credentials is willing to debate Germar Rudolf let me know
I haven't watched any video of him but I'm begging to suspect he must have his stuff down
@GermarRudolf
My latest post
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:13 pm
by curioussoul
I'm quite surprised. One of the absurd rules that Musk enacted was the "genocide denial rule", meant to quash Holocaust revisionism on X. While I'm obviously disappointed in the existence of this rule, clearly their enforcement of it is pretty lax. But it is worrying that they can, at any time, ban someone for having violated it.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:03 am
by Archie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:13 pm
I'm quite surprised. One of the absurd rules that Musk enacted was the "genocide denial rule", meant to quash Holocaust revisionism on X. While I'm obviously disappointed in the existence of this rule, clearly their enforcement of it is pretty lax. But it is worrying that they can, at any time, ban someone for having violated it.
From what I have seen in the week I've been on there, it's more than "lax." They are just straight up allowing it. And not just Holocaust denial. There's openly pro-Hitler stuff. There's tons of anti-Semitic stuff (happy merchant memes and stuff like that), TONS of anti-Israel posts (left and right). Germar's on there. ARMREG's on there. Clemens & Blair is on there.
I'm sure there will be a big purge at some point (maybe very soon if they are doing this to help Trump get elected), but in the meantime it's a good way to get some eyeballs on our stuff. I'm going to keep using it as long as it's viable and I would encourage anybody who's thinking about it to jump on there.
Since the account I'm using has the CODOH name, I'm going to keep it fairly buttoned down. Mostly straight factual material and free speech type stuff. Some Israel criticism. But nothing over-the-top. My stuff is mild compared some of the other accounts.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:14 am
by Callafangers
This one sort of blew my mind. This is actually Hitler's voice, in English (with a British accent), AI-generated. The transcript is from Dalton's translation of Mein Kampf.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:40 pm
by curioussoul
Callafangers wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:14 am
This one sort of blew my mind. This is actually Hitler's voice, in English (with a British accent), AI-generated. The transcript is from Dalton's translation of Mein Kampf.
Some of this new AI technology is pretty mindblowing. These Hitler translations into English, in particular, I think have the potential to give an entirely new perspective to young non-German speaking people not familiar with what Hitler and National Socialists actually said and believed, and who probably grew up being told he was a raving lunatic. I've heard some of these AI translations have gone viral on TikTok as well, which is encouraging. Ironically, some of what Hitler said probably resonates a lot with left-leaning young people.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:55 am
by fireofice
Archie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:49 pm
My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.
Well Trump won. Lets see if you were right.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:56 pm
by Archie
fireofice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:55 am
Archie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:49 pm
My theory about what's going on: Elon is campaigning really hard for Trump right now, so my guess is that's why they have loosened the corset. After the election I would not be surprised if they start to lock it back down. Remember that a lot of the right wing Likud type Jews prefer Trump because they know he will let them go full bore with their genocide. Those type of Jews are willing to let a degree of right wing populism flourish as a tradeoff if they think they can get something out of it.
Well Trump won. Lets see if you were right.
I hope Elon proves me wrong. He says he supports free speech. We'll see how serious he is about that.
I think the censorship of big tech a few years ago set us back many years. The sad reality is that censorship often works pretty damn well. Can you imagine if we had Google, Amazon, YouTube, and Twitter all this time? If X remains as open as it is right now, that is a huge opportunity for us. X is an especially good platfom imo for reaching new people.
If Elon does stick to his guns, it will be interesting to see what sort of retaliation that triggers against him.
Re: HD seemingly allowed on X/Twitter
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:53 pm
by joshk246
Archie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:49 pm
I hope Elon proves me wrong. He says he supports free speech. We'll see how serious he is about that.
Remember when Elon said this though... I think he's smarter than we think (hopefully).