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Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:56 pm
by Keen
10 simple questions about Sobibors fraudulent "ash mound":

1: Is it - True. - or - False. - that in 2010, a paper published by Yoram Haimi, Isaac Gilead and Wojciech Mazurek (Excavating Nazi Extermination Centres - https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... on_Centres ) used the term "ash mound / mound of ashes" 11 times, and did not use the term "memory hill" once - ??

2: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Yoram Haimi has consitently used the term "memory hill" in his writings since then - ??

3: Why do you think that is?

4: Is it - True. - or - False. - that in 2013, Sobibor memorial designer / "artist-historian" Lukasz Mieszkowski admitted that Sobibors "burial mound" is "MADE OF SOIL NOT CONTAINING ASHES" - ??

5: How do you think he obtained that knowledge?

6: Is it - True. - or - False. - that this article: https://k-larevue.com/en/at-bay-beyond- ... -memorial/ basically admits what psychological and emotional responses the fraudulent "ash mound" psyop / cognitive illusion was intended to elicit - ??

7: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap has admitted that he has communicated often with Yoram Haimi and Andrzej Kola - ??

8: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap has admitted that Yoram Haimi told him that Sobibors "ash Mound" DID NOT contain human remains - ??

9: Is it - True. - or - False. - that; at least one grave containing the remains of at least one person has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically proven to exist within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - ?

10: Based on all the evidence that I have seen, there is reasonable suspicion (the lowest standard of proof in the U.S.) for me to believe that Sobibor's "ASH MOUND" currently contains the remains of no less than _?_ jews.

Re: Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:11 pm
by Keen
Let's remind everyone what that mentally ill low IQ freak Roberta Muehlenkamp once said about Sobibors "Ash mound":
It’s not as if the human remains contained in the soil that the "ash mountain" monument was made of had been a spectacular discovery when the monument was built in the 1960s.

All known evidence about what happened at Sobibor supports the conclusion that the heap is actually made up of human ashes.

All captioned photos showing this mound of ash, while not necessarily if at all describing it as "huge" or as a "mountain", refer to it as being made up of or containing human ash. Photos of this mound include, without limitation, the photos shown under item IV.2.3 in my post # 777 under http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p= ... tcount=777 and those shown under the following links:

http://www.sobibor.edu.pl/angielska/gal ... or039.html

http://www.sobibor.edu.pl/angielska/gal ... or040.html

http://www.sobibor.edu.pl/angielska/gal ... or043.html

http://www.sobibor.edu.pl/angielska/gal ... or082.html

The aspect of the substance that the mound consists of, which has a light gray coloration different from the light-brown color of the soil at Sobibor (see photos mentioned in answer B.3 above) suggests the accuracy of captions describing this mound as a mound consisting of or containing human ashes...

The conclusion that the mound in question is comprised of human ash is thus the conclusion that is borne out by all known evidence and belied by none. It is also the conclusion towards which various sources of evidence independent of each other converge. This convergence of various sources of evidence independent of each other, alone or together with the absence of any evidence to the contrary, is proof that the mound in question is comprised of human ash.

The human ashes that the mound at Sobibor is comprised of may have been dug out of one of more of the pits discovered by Prof. Kola in 2001. They were probably brought to the surface by postwar robbery digging, which would mean it is impossible to determine which of the grave pits contained these specific ashes... because it clearly shows what my assumption regarding the origin of the ashes that make up the Sobibor ash mound was: human ashes brought to the surface by postwar robbery digging were collected by the people in charge of the Sobibor memorial site and put together into this ash mound.
Don't forget boys and girls, the construction of Sobibors "ash mound" was a psyop, a big-lie, a fraudulent charade designed to create a cognitive illusion - and one needs to be wearing a pair of those holohoax goggles to believe it.

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Re: Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm
by Wetzelrad
Reading into this, you seem to be making the point that although many Holocaust authorities have claimed the "Ash Mound" was created from excavated human ashes, this claim has diminished somewhat with time, with Yoram Haimi in particular moving away from it. This is a pretty remarkable point, but it would require quotes or citations as support. Do you have any?

I see an article where one of the men who worked on the memorial in 2013 and beyond wrote this:
The clearing in which the ashes of tens of thousands had been dumped, the forest through which the victims trudged on their way to death, did not evoke terror for me. [...] The burial mound, made of soil not containing ashes, distracted attention from the clearing under which sat human remains; the alley leading to the mound ran straight through one of the burial sites, causing visitors to step on and desecrate the earth above the human remains.

https://k-larevue.com/en/at-bay-beyond- ... -memorial/
According to him, the ashes were still buried, whereas the mound was merely dirt mound, a Soviet memorial. He later adds that the mound would remain a "metaphor of and homage to memory."

So has Muehlenkamp corrected himself on this, or does he still believe the mound was made of human remains? Has anyone ever issued a correction for this? It seems like a pretty massive deception to be tossed aside without remark. Nor has the deception ended, if people are still calling it an "ash mound", and they evidently are.

Re: Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 12:39 am
by Keen
wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm I see an article where one of the men who worked on the memorial in 2013 and beyond wrote this:
The clearing in which the ashes of tens of thousands had been dumped, the forest through which the victims trudged on their way to death, did not evoke terror for me. [...] The burial mound, made of soil not containing ashes, distracted attention from the clearing under which sat human remains; the alley leading to the mound ran straight through one of the burial sites, causing visitors to step on and desecrate the earth above the human remains.

https://k-larevue.com/en/at-bay-beyond- ... -memorial/
According to him, the ashes were still buried, whereas the mound was merely dirt mound, a Soviet memorial. He later adds that the mound would remain a "metaphor of and homage to memory."
Thank you Wetzelrad. I'll edit my OP https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=18810#p18810 and get back to your other points later.

Re: Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 12:52 am
by Keen
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm Reading into this, you seem to be making the point that although many Holocaust authorities have claimed the "Ash Mound" was created from excavated human ashes, this claim has diminished somewhat with time,
No, I am not making the point that "this claim has diminished somewhat with time."
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm This is a pretty remarkable point, but it would require quotes or citations as support.
It would only require asking Roberta this simple question:

5: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap once admitted that Yoram Haimi told him that Sobibors "Ash Mound" DID NOT contain human remains - ??
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm According to him, the ashes were still buried
His belief is based on unsubstantiated allegations. There would have to be "ashes" for "ashes" to be buried.
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm So has Muehlenkamp corrected himself on this, or does he still believe the mound was made of human remains?
The first part of that question is much like mine:

5: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap once admitted that Yoram Haimi told him that Sobibors "Ash Mound" DID NOT contain human remains - ??

As per the second part, only Roberta can tell us what she currently believes.
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm It seems like a pretty massive deception
Massive deception indeed.

The construction of Sobibors "ash mound" was a psyop, a big-lie, a fraudulent charade designed to create a cognitive illusion, and, unless one is retarded, one needs to be wearing a pair of those holohoax goggles to believe it.

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BTW Wetzelrad, what is your answer for this:
Based on all the evidence that I have seen, there is reasonable suspicion (the lowest standard of proof in the U.S.) for me to believe that Sobibor's "ASH MOUND" currently contains the remains of no less than _?_ jews.

Re: Sobibors "Ash Mound"

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:31 am
by Keen
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:06 pm This is a pretty remarkable point, but it would require quotes or citations as support.
Wetzelrad, I think I misinterpreted that statement. I'll edit my OP to reflect what I think you meant.
Keen wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:56 pm
10 simple questions about Sobibors fraudulent "ash mound":

1: Is it - True. - or - False. - that in 2010, a paper published by Yoram Haimi, Isaac Gilead and Wojciech Mazurek (Excavating Nazi Extermination Centres - https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... on_Centres ) used the term "ash mound / mound of ashes" 11 times, and did not use the term "memory hill" once - ??

2: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Yoram Haimi has consitently used the term "memory hill" in his writings since then - ??

3: Why do you think that is?

4: Is it - True. - or - False. - that in 2013, Sobibor memorial designer / "artist-historian" Lukasz Mieszkowski admitted that Sobibors "burial mound" is "MADE OF SOIL NOT CONTAINING ASHES" - ??

5: How do you think he obtained that knowledge?

6: Is it - True. - or - False. - that this article: https://k-larevue.com/en/at-bay-beyond- ... -memorial/ basically admits what psychological and emotional responses the fraudulent "ash mound" psyop / cognitive illusion was intended to elicit - ??

7: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap has admitted that he has communicated often with Yoram Haimi and Andrzej Kola - ??

8: Is it - True. - or - False. - that Roberto Muehlenkmap has admitted that Yoram Haimi told him that Sobibors "ash mound" DID NOT contain human remains - ??

9: Is it - True. - or - False. - that; at least one grave containing the remains of at least one person has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically proven to exist within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - ?

10: Based on all the evidence that I have seen, there is reasonable suspicion (the lowest standard of proof in the U.S.) for me to believe that Sobibor's "ASH MOUND" currently contains the remains of no less than _?_ jews.