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Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:36 pm
by Joe Splink
The primary image is a screenshot from the video Memory of the Camps made by the British military as it liberated Belsen, see it here -
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/docu ... the-camps/
The top right inset is a photo of Anne Frank, and the lower right inset is from the primary image. I uploaded the two inset photos to Grok and asked - are the two girls in the uploaded image the same person?
Grok's response -
Yes, the two images depict the same person: a young girl widely recognized as Anne Frank. The top photo is a clear, high-resolution black-and-white portrait showing her with short dark hair, a slight smile, and looking directly at the camera. The bottom photo appears to be a heavily pixelated or noise-distorted version of the exact same portrait, with the same facial features, expression, pose, and clothing details visible despite the degradation. This kind of pairing is often used in demonstrations of image processing, compression artifacts, or restoration techniques.
The primary image is of a group of Jewish children that have become known as the diamond children because their parents were Amsterdam diamond merchants. The older woman is Luba Tryszynska, who served as nurse to the children. She wrote a book 'Luba: the Angel of Belsen'. The group traveled to Amsterdam after the war and met the Queen. They held reunions as late as 1995.
I wrote to the Anne Frank center in Amsterdam and asked them what they knew about the girl in the photo. They replied that they were not familiar with the photo.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:21 pm
by Eye of Zyclone
Grok has serious vision problems, it seems...
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:31 am
by HansHill
I am with Zyclone - this is a swing and a miss for me.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:06 am
by Nazgul
Joe Splink wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:36 pm
The primary image is a screenshot from the video Memory of the Camps made by the British military as it liberated Belsen, see it here -
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/docu ... the-camps/
The top right inset is a photo of Anne Frank, and the lower right inset is from the primary image. I uploaded the two inset photos to Grok and asked - are the two girls in the uploaded image the same person?
Grok's response -
Yes, the two images depict the same person: a young girl widely recognized as Anne Frank. The top photo is a clear, high-resolution black-and-white portrait showing her with short dark hair, a slight smile, and looking directly at the camera. The bottom photo appears to be a heavily pixelated or noise-distorted version of the exact same portrait, with the same facial features, expression, pose, and clothing details visible despite the degradation. This kind of pairing is often used in demonstrations of image processing, compression artifacts, or restoration techniques.
The primary image is of a group of Jewish children that have become known as the diamond children because their parents were Amsterdam diamond merchants. The older woman is Luba Tryszynska, who served as nurse to the children. She wrote a book 'Luba: the Angel of Belsen'. The group traveled to Amsterdam after the war and met the Queen. They held reunions as late as 1995.
I wrote to the Anne Frank center in Amsterdam and asked them what they knew about the girl in the photo. They replied that they were not familiar with the photo.
When I first saw this pic, I compared and constrasted the image with known Anne Frank images. I mentioned this with the image on the last RODOH, but the other members thought they were not the same person, different ages. I remained convinced the image was that of Anne and still do.
The image of the diamond kids is a snap shot taken from a movie sequence, which will explain the poor quality. The child in the movie was in motion, which in those times would be near impossible to fake, there is no need for it to be faked anyhow. The shape of the nose, the eybrows, the hairline, other facial features indicate this child is indeed Anne Frank.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:39 pm
by borjastick
I've only got a tiny mind but in that tiny mind that is the same girl.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:52 pm
by Stubble
Some of her hair fell out and she looks gaunt. Also her head is at a different angle so her jawline and nose don't look exactly the same.
The eye placement and facial ratios look like a match to me. I haven't busted out the calipers though and taken measurements.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:56 pm
by Joe Splink
Not having calipers, it occurred to me that I could overlay the pictures to see how they lined up. So I did that, using photoshop I scaled the AF picture down a bit to match the size of the Belsen pic, and overlaid the AF pic over the Belsen pic, and I made a vid, starting with the overlay opacity set to zero and as slowly and smoothly as possible increasing it to 100%. The result -
Note: I'm not the first person to notice this, I first saw it on scrapbookpages.com.
Re: Grok agrees that Anne Frank survived Belsen
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:27 pm
by Eye of Zyclone
Joe Splink wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:56 pm
The result -
Great!! Now do it with Denzel Washington and John Boyega!
