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Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:22 am
by Nessie
borjastick wrote: Sun May 31, 2026 5:45 pm
TII is "rammed" with evidence, which you chose not to accept, because apparently the Nazis would have "planned it much better", which is an argument with no evidential value. Historians "resort" to asking for an evidenced alternative which proves hundreds of thousands of people left the camp, because history is about evidencing what happened. That you think being asked to provide and evidenced, revised history is somehow unreasonable, proves you are not genuine.
These idiotic ramblings by his Royal nessiness show exactly why he is best avoided and if I had my way would be banned from this site. Read the above carefully and slowly and see if you can understand and God forbid, make any sense of it.

If you don't think the Germans would and do plan things carefully and uber logically then you are speaking to us from another planet. You then claim that Treblinka is indeed rammed with evidence when quite obviously to those of us with a working brain it is not. Finally you do the usual eyewitnesses routine which is laughable really. Every day on my facebook feed I see posts about little Moshe Finklebaum who went into Auschwitz and was murdered blah blah bbbbbbb. These posts are nonsense and have no proof attached at all. When someone then asks how they know that little Rebecca Prosser was gassed upon arrival they often claim it was witnessed or a camp inmate said so. Complete and utter tosh. Your rantings about Treblinka, shown above, prove you are in the same camp of the deluded and dumb. You probably deny that tens of thousands of innocent children in Gaza were slaughtered since October seventh and that israel is not currently doing the same in Lebanon whilst at the same time stealing hundreds of square kilometers of another country.

Jews and zionist supporters and those of a weak mental disposition who favour the holocaust of six million jews who didn't exist and gas chambers that cannot be shown, should be ignored at all costs and sectioned.
Instead of producing a chronology of events at TII, 1942-3, using evidence from eyewitnesses who worked there, documents pertinent to its operation, archaeological surveys and circumstances around the operation of AR, you have a rant.

Why can you not disprove mass gassing claims at TII, in the way that historians have done at Dachau?

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:29 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: Sun May 31, 2026 5:52 pm
borjastick wrote: Sun May 31, 2026 5:45 pm
TII is "rammed" with evidence, which you chose not to accept, because apparently the Nazis would have "planned it much better", which is an argument with no evidential value. Historians "resort" to asking for an evidenced alternative which proves hundreds of thousands of people left the camp, because history is about evidencing what happened. That you think being asked to provide and evidenced, revised history is somehow unreasonable, proves you are not genuine.
These idiotic ramblings by his Royal nessiness show exactly why he is best avoided and if I had my way would be banned from this site. Read the above carefully and slowly and see if you can understand and God forbid, make any sense of it.

If you don't think the Germans would and do plan things carefully and uber logically then you are speaking to us from another planet. You then claim that Treblinka is indeed rammed with evidence when quite obviously to those of us with a working brain it is not. Finally you do the usual eyewitnesses routine which is laughable really. Every day on my facebook feed I see posts about little Moshe Finklebaum who went into Auschwitz and was murdered blah blah bbbbbbb. These posts are nonsense and have no proof attached at all. When someone then asks how they know that little Rebecca Prosser was gassed upon arrival they often claim it was witnessed or a camp inmate said so. Complete and utter tosh. Your rantings about Treblinka, shown above, prove you are in the same camp of the deluded and dumb. You probably deny that tens of thousands of innocent children in Gaza were slaughtered since October seventh and that israel is not currently doing the same in Lebanon whilst at the same time stealing hundreds of square kilometers of another country.

Jews and zionist supporters and those of a weak mental disposition who favour the holocaust of six million jews who didn't exist and gas chambers that cannot be shown, should be ignored at all costs and sectioned.
But, but, Borjastick, how do you explain this documentary from Ben Hecht?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ie-pageant

Didn't he also write an article claiming that '6,000,000 will perish' back in '42?

Incredible, isn't it?

It sure is a good thing he was there to 'show' the American people what them Nazis was doin'.
Both you and borjastick do not believe the evidence of gassings. The article you link to shows that in 1943, many also did not believe the Nazis were mass murdering Jews;

"Many Americans found it difficult to believe the information; a January 1943 poll showed that only 48% believed it to be true."

The difference between us is that historians are able to reliably and accurately establish what is true and you, due to faulty methodology, do not.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:45 pm
by Archie
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:29 am
The difference between us is that historians are able to reliably and accurately establish what is true and you, due to faulty methodology, do not.
What's this "us"? You are not a historian.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:50 pm
by Nessie
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:45 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:29 am
The difference between us is that historians are able to reliably and accurately establish what is true and you, due to faulty methodology, do not.
What's this "us"? You are not a historian.
Rather than attack my argument, you attack me.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:52 pm
by Keen
Nesserto wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:22 am Why can you not disprove mass gassing claims at TII, in the way that historians have done at Dachau?
It's already been done.
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

Foundational scientific question: Can archaeologists prove, with 100% certainty, if millions of pounds of bones and tens of millions of teeth actually exist in a precisely known location?

Foundational legal question: Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million Jews are actually buried in the 100 specifically and precisely identified locations in question?

Foundational legal principles that easily expose this transparent archaeological hoax: BURDEN OF PRODUCTION & BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.

...

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/
No mass graves = no mass murder = no mass gassings at Treblinka II.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:35 pm
by Archie
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:50 pm
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:45 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:29 am
The difference between us is that historians are able to reliably and accurately establish what is true and you, due to faulty methodology, do not.
What's this "us"? You are not a historian.
Rather than attack my argument, you attack me.
You didn't make a real argument for me to respond to. You were claiming authority and expertise. I pointed out that you have no authority or expertise.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:42 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:42 am You piss ignorant retard...
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Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 8:42 pm
by Keen
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:45 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:29 am
The difference between us is that historians are able to reliably and accurately establish what is true and you, due to faulty methodology, do not.
What's this "us"? You are not a historian.
If it was an actual historian, it wouldn't be cravenly hiding behind an anonymous name.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:25 am
by Nessie
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:35 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:50 pm
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:45 pm

What's this "us"? You are not a historian.
Rather than attack my argument, you attack me.
You didn't make a real argument for me to respond to. You were claiming authority and expertise. I pointed out that you have no authority or expertise.
Again you personalise, as you fail to defend revisionist methodology over that used by historians and others. Do you see the difference between how historians evidenced there were no mass gassings at Dachau and revisionists argue that the mass gassings at TII cannot have happened?

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 12:34 pm
by Archie
Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:25 am
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:35 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:50 pm

Rather than attack my argument, you attack me.
You didn't make a real argument for me to respond to. You were claiming authority and expertise. I pointed out that you have no authority or expertise.
Again you personalise, as you fail to defend revisionist methodology over that used by historians and others. Do you see the difference between how historians evidenced there were no mass gassings at Dachau and revisionists argue that the mass gassings at TII cannot have happened?
Lol, the Dachau gas chamber is one of the worst examples you could have picked since "the historians" don't agree with each other. The museum said for years it was never used but many claim people were gassed there.

You are totally ignorant. You just comment aimlessly on what you imagine "the historians" have said since you don't actually know.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:27 pm
by Keen
Archie wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 12:34 pm You are totally ignorant.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.

It knows what the truth is, but it lacks the courage, integrity and character to admit the truth.

That is why it has to hide behind an alias, just like all the other gutless, mentally ill HC cult members.

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Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:29 pm
by HansHill
Moron. The "evidence" (that is, claims) for Dachau gassings are consistent with the gassing "evidence" (that is, claims) at Birkenau, Treblinka and others, in nature and kind.

Additionally - the propaganda death toll fall from ~280,000 to ~20,000 at Dachau was not because those Jews popped up somewhere in occupied Palestine or New York in a census somewhere. This means that the gassing narrative collapsed due to being non-viable, independent of "missing Jews" pottering around somewhere, despite your insistence that it is for other camps.

Sad!

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:34 pm
by Nessie
Archie wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 12:34 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 6:25 am
Archie wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:35 pm

You didn't make a real argument for me to respond to. You were claiming authority and expertise. I pointed out that you have no authority or expertise.
Again you personalise, as you fail to defend revisionist methodology over that used by historians and others. Do you see the difference between how historians evidenced there were no mass gassings at Dachau and revisionists argue that the mass gassings at TII cannot have happened?
Lol, the Dachau gas chamber is one of the worst examples you could have picked since "the historians" don't agree with each other. The museum said for years it was never used but many claim people were gassed there.

You are totally ignorant. You just comment aimlessly on what you imagine "the historians" have said since you don't actually know.
Historians agree that no mass gassings took place there. Dachau was never a death camp like Birkenau or Belzec. There is some disagreement about how many, if any, were gassed there. Those conclusions are down to the evidence gleaned from camp staff, prisoners and records. It is from those forms of evidence that historians have proved Dachau was not a death camp. You cannot do that for Birkenau or Belzec and produce witnesses who say there were no gas chambers, or documents recording what eventually happened to all the prisoners, proving they did not die en masse.

Instead of that evidence based approach, you try to argue that gassings cannot have happened.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 4:36 pm
by Nessie
HansHill wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 2:29 pm Moron. The "evidence" (that is, claims) for Dachau gassings are consistent with the gassing "evidence" (that is, claims) at Birkenau, Treblinka and others, in nature and kind.

Additionally - the propaganda death toll fall from ~280,000 to ~20,000 at Dachau was not because those Jews popped up somewhere in occupied Palestine or New York in a census somewhere. This means that the gassing narrative collapsed due to being non-viable, independent of "missing Jews" pottering around somewhere, despite your insistence that it is for other camps.

Sad!
If a claim was made that the British were gassing Germans at the internment camp on the Isle of Man, what evidence would you gather to establish if that claim was true or not?

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 5:34 pm
by HansHill
Reported.

Unresponsive to the argument
Shifting the goalposts
Whataboutism
Meandering
Irrelevant
Slop