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Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:17 pm
by TlsMS93
I don't believe in witnesses who each say one thing and add others. Forget it, that only convinces idiots who want to believe, like those who claim aliens.
Records of arrival are proof of death.
Bring me the 2,400 tons of human ashes in Treblinka II, which is what 800 thousand cremated bodies generate, and I'll disappear from the forum.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:24 pm
by Stubble
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:58 pm
Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:53 pm
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Spit out that biscuit.
A tile is not a gas chamber.
When the tiles, brick and concrete found buried where witnesses located the second gas chambers and the colours and construction match witness descriptions, that is strong corroborative evidence of gas chambers.
It is like a witness describing a type of gun and a search finds parts of that type of gun buried at the location of the alleged shooting.
Also, where on that patch of dirt do you bury 2x the population of liverpool?
In the area that is 2 hectares, up to 7m deep.
No, it's nothing like finding part of a gun. It's like finding a piece of tile where there was a shower.
Also, technically speaking, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but, technically speaking, that tile is from where eye witnesses said the kitchen was.
Also, 2x the population of liverpool in an area of 2 hectares x 7m, assuming a uniform depth, and this area all in one place, as a rectangle [cuboid], you still have a problem here. Do you store these people in this area as a fluid? They still don't fit.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:17 pm
by TlsMS93
I wonder if the Nazis went down into these deep trenches, allegedly 7 meters deep, and organized the bodies in perfect layers? How long would it take to organize 800,000 bodies by hand? Witnesses claim that a bulldozer threw the bodies into them, so they didn't care how they would organize them in the area, and if that were the case, it would require much more space in width and length.
And those who see it think that Caroline's Lidar found trenches the size of those alleged by the witnesses, it didn't even reach 1/3 of that, and the maximum depth the equipment reached was 4 meters, and she didn't want to use ground drilling equipment like Kola did in Belzec, but she couldn't get permission from the chief rabbi.
And we have to believe this nonsense.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:20 pm
by Stubble
Even if you assume 2 hectares by 7m uniform as a cuboid and the dead as a fluid and as adolescents, you can pour about a half a million people in from a cup.
Nessie, you fail to respect the issue here. You are talking about 2x the population of liverpool.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:15 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:24 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:58 pm
Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:53 pm
.....
Spit out that biscuit.
A tile is not a gas chamber.
When the tiles, brick and concrete found buried where witnesses located the second gas chambers and the colours and construction match witness descriptions, that is strong corroborative evidence of gas chambers.
It is like a witness describing a type of gun and a search finds parts of that type of gun buried at the location of the alleged shooting.
Also, where on that patch of dirt do you bury 2x the population of liverpool?
In the area that is 2 hectares, up to 7m deep.
No, it's nothing like finding part of a gun. It's like finding a piece of tile where there was a shower.
Also, technically speaking, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but, technically speaking, that tile is from where eye witnesses said the kitchen was.
You are wrong. The tiles were the same colour as witnesses described the tiles in the gas chambers.
Also, 2x the population of liverpool in an area of 2 hectares x 7m, assuming a uniform depth, and this area all in one place, as a rectangle [cuboid], you still have a problem here. Do you store these people in this area as a fluid? They still don't fit.
Decomposition and leaking of fluids, as the corpses are compressed under pressure, is how they fit.
Unless you can evidence an alternative, your incredulity about the evidence of mass graves is unfounded.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:18 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:20 pm
Even if you assume 2 hectares by 7m uniform as a cuboid and the dead as a fluid and as adolescents, you can pour about a half a million people in from a cup.
Nessie, you fail to respect the issue here. You are talking about 2x the population of liverpool.
I do not fail to respect anything. I respect the evidence for mass graves and lack of evidence of hundreds of thousands leaving the camp. You disrespect that and show respect for a logically flawed argument from incredulity. Just because you cannot see how c850,000 would fit, does not therefore mean there are no mass graves.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:25 am
by Stubble
Of course there are graves at treblinka, people died, people were buried.
No one disputes that people died and were buried.
So far as twice the population of liverpool going buried inside of 5 acres of space, cumulatively, come on Nessie, use your head man.
So far as a tile being proof of a 'homicidal gas chamber', it is proof that there was a room that had tile in it. Be it a shower, a kitchen, or a steam delousing chamber, remember, the steam delousing chambers were also described as being tiled, and an almost identical description to the 'homicidal gas chambers' I might add.
Look, you can't cram 800,000 pounds into a 5 pound bag. You just can't.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:26 am
by Nazgul
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:02 pm
The death toll is based on documents recording arrivals.
What documents?
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:30 am
by Nessie
Nazgul wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:26 am
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:02 pm
The death toll is based on documents recording arrivals.
What documents?
Hofle, Stroop, Ganzenmueller and ghetto transport records. You know that. You are deflecting from your inability to produce any documents recording people leaving TII and arriving elsewhere.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:35 am
by Stubble
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:40 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:35 am
That is evidence of limited selections for workers. It also shows that people leaving TII, leave evidence that they left, and all that can be found is a few isolated examples, out of c850,000. If that number did leave, they would leave a lot of evidence. Instead, nothing.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:50 am
by Nazgul
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:40 am
Instead, nothing.
They were sent Westward. Not much information remains at all about anything. Thank the Soviets for this.
Here are all the labour camps 45
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:57 am
by Nessie
Nazgul wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:50 am
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:40 am
Instead, nothing.
They were sent Westward. Not much information remains at all about anything. Thank the Soviets for this.
Here are all the labour camps 45
West, not east, which ruins that revisionist claim.
Show me the Jewish population of those camps in 1945. It needs to include hundreds of thousands who had been at TII.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:18 am
by Nazgul
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:57 am
West, not east, which ruins that revisionist claim.
Show me the Jewish population of those camps in 1945. It needs to include hundreds of thousands who had been at TII.
There is no revisionist claim of an eastward drive, except for the people sent east after the Soviet annexation of half of Poland. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn has those answers in his book "the Gulag archipelego". Other sent east returned, some died of course. The population of those camps is irrelevant, the fact that they existed implies a muster. As a self proclaimed ex cop, I am sure you are aware of circumstantial evidence.
All of those locations are provided by genuine witnesses.
Re: The murder mill Treblinka II
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:18 pm
by Nessie
Nazgul wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:18 am
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:57 am
West, not east, which ruins that revisionist claim.
Show me the Jewish population of those camps in 1945. It needs to include hundreds of thousands who had been at TII.
There is no revisionist claim of an eastward drive,
Rubbish, it is normal for revisionists to claim that instead of being gassed, Jews were being sent to be resettled in the east.
.. except for the people sent east after the Soviet annexation of half of Poland. Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn has those answers in his book "the Gulag archipelego". Other sent east returned, some died of course. The population of those camps is irrelevant, the fact that they existed implies a muster. As a self proclaimed ex cop, I am sure you are aware of circumstantial evidence.
All of those locations are provided by genuine witnesses.
Until you evidence the Jewish populations in the camps, all you have is a very basic map of camps, which is insufficient to prove millions of Jews still alive in 1945.