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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:26 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:19 am
Nessie wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 3:47 pm
Stubble wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 2:34 pm .....
Nessie:


Quote mining is dishonest. The full quote is "Are you suggesting that because I cannot physically show you mass graves, where 800,000 corpses can be individually counted, such as the mass graves at Katyn, that means I cannot prove mass graves?"

I go on to explain why I cannot show graves like those found at Katyn;

"Because the Nazis exhumed the corpses, cremated them and reburied the remains mixed into the ground. You have been shown the surveys of the camps that identify the areas that were dug up and where large amounts of cremated remains have been found."

You cannot argue against that, so you quote mine!
Dude, you literally quote mined me quoting Keen to laugh, all I did was laugh, you fucking muppet.

Now you resort to ad hominem as you cannot counter my argument.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:33 am
by Nessie
Bombsaway;

viewtopic.php?p=25765#p25765
you should answer this question in reference to my assertion that if millions of Jews were held in resettlement camps in Russia there should be at least a shred of direct evidence for this. compare and contrast your demand for evidence of a specific technical mechanism with my demand for evidence of any aspect of the largest population transfer in history.
It is the Holocaust so-called revisionist way, to go into incredible detail over how the Kula columns may have been constructed, whilst ignoring the lack of evidence of millions of Jews supposedly not killed, still alive in 1944-5. The reason why they do that, is literally to give them something to talk about, as if they still have a point to make and role to play.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 12:13 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:33 am It is the Holocaust so-called revisionist... ignoring the lack of evidence of millions of Jews supposedly not killed, still alive in 1944-5.
Logical fallacy and a bald faced lie in one short sentence.
If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:08 pm
by Stubble
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:26 am
Stubble wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:19 am
Nessie wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 3:47 pm

Quote mining is dishonest. The full quote is "Are you suggesting that because I cannot physically show you mass graves, where 800,000 corpses can be individually counted, such as the mass graves at Katyn, that means I cannot prove mass graves?"

I go on to explain why I cannot show graves like those found at Katyn;

"Because the Nazis exhumed the corpses, cremated them and reburied the remains mixed into the ground. You have been shown the surveys of the camps that identify the areas that were dug up and where large amounts of cremated remains have been found."

You cannot argue against that, so you quote mine!
Dude, you literally quote mined me quoting Keen to laugh, all I did was laugh, you fucking muppet.

Now you resort to ad hominem as you cannot counter my argument.
:lol:

What? Seek help.

Go look at the post you mangled to put keeps words in my mouth.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:55 pm
by Keen
nessie:
"Are you suggesting that because I cannot physically show you mass graves, where 800,000 corpses can be individually counted, such as the mass graves at Katyn, that means I cannot prove mass graves?"
It is not a "suggestion" - it is a fact that you "cannot prove mass graves."

All your allegations of doing so are bald faced lies.

If you want to pretend that you have "proven" mass graves, then;

Why are you so afraid of telling us what standard of "proof" you are alleging?
Arranged from lowest to highest, the standards of proof in American law follow a rough hierarchy:

Reasonable suspicion: Enough specific facts to justify a brief police stop, but well short of what’s needed for an arrest or a search warrant.

Probable cause: A fair probability that a crime occurred or evidence will be found, sufficient for an arrest or warrant.

Substantial evidence: Enough that a reasonable person could accept it as adequate, used when courts review agency decisions.

Preponderance of the evidence: More likely than not, the default for most civil lawsuits.

Clear and convincing evidence: Highly probable, reserved for civil matters with serious consequences like fraud claims or termination of parental rights.

Beyond a reasonable doubt: Firm conviction of guilt, required for all criminal convictions.

Absolute certainty: A state of knowledge or proof so complete that there is no possibility of doubt or uncertainty
What are you waiting for nessie?

What are you so afraid of?


We know that your alleged standard of "proof" is not only less than a "preponderance of the evidence," but less than substantial evidence as well.

And how do we know that?

Because you are unable to claim the following reward:
A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 100 alleged “scientifically proven” mass graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)

https://thisisaboutscience.com/
And you are anable to rebut the following rebuttable presumption:
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.


https://thisisaboutscience.com/

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:13 pm
by Keen
And look what else nessie is cravenly running away from:
11 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

13 - List all of the Ponary graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

14 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/
What are you waiting for nessie?

What are you so afraid of?

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:25 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:08 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:26 am
Stubble wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:19 am

Dude, you literally quote mined me quoting Keen to laugh, all I did was laugh, you fucking muppet.

Now you resort to ad hominem as you cannot counter my argument.
:lol:

What? Seek help.

Go look at the post you mangled to put keeps words in my mouth.
nessie:
I am both a trained historian and police officer.

I can point to them in the ground.
If the mentally ill pathological liar can "point to them in the ground," then he should be able to "show us" his magically disappearing mass graves."

So why doesn't he?
nessie:

I cannot physically show you mass graves.
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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:26 pm
by Nessie
HansHill;

viewtopic.php?p=25788#p25788
I get that you personally may not be interested in this variable, but as an enthusiast community, we are.

And as an enthusiast community, when critically assessing this, we have very little to go on, except for what a very small number of people (eg Kula, Tauber, Khazan etc) said, so we must be precise and critical with them to ascertain this and other variables. Otherwise there is nothing to discuss.
Why are the "enthusiast community" of so-called revisionists so enthusiastic on discussions about how the Kula column worked, but not on the history of what happened to the millions of Jews arrested by the Nazis and their Allies, 1939-44 and where they were in 1944 and 1945 when the war ended?

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:29 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:26 pm Why are... bla bla, bla...
viewtopic.php?p=25782#p25782
nessie:

I am both a trained historian and police officer.

I cannot show graves.

I cannot physically show you mass graves.

[But] I can point to them in the ground.
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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:36 pm
by HansHill
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:26 pm HansHill;

viewtopic.php?p=25788#p25788
I get that you personally may not be interested in this variable, but as an enthusiast community, we are.

And as an enthusiast community, when critically assessing this, we have very little to go on, except for what a very small number of people (eg Kula, Tauber, Khazan etc) said, so we must be precise and critical with them to ascertain this and other variables. Otherwise there is nothing to discuss.
Why are the "enthusiast community" of so-called revisionists so enthusiastic on discussions about how the Kula column worked, but not on the history of what happened to the millions of Jews arrested by the Nazis and their Allies, 1939-44 and where they were in 1944 and 1945 when the war ended?
Reported for lying. There have been dozens of resettlement, burial, and "where are they?" threads.

Stop trying to bait me with your slop.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:50 pm
by Keen
nessie:
I can point to them in the ground.
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How many "huge mass graves," that you "cannot physically show us" are you talking about?

Exact number please.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:00 pm
by Keen
nessie:
I can't show you where they touched me, but I can point to where they touched me.
nessie, as a "trained police officer" can you

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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:21 pm
by Keen
nessie:
I am both a trained historian and police officer.

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.
* * * * *
nessie, how many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

nessie's answer:

12 - G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

[But] I cannot show graves.

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits and that they exist.

But it DOES NOT prove that those pits contain human remains.

I cannot physically show you mass graves.
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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:24 pm
by Nessie
HansHill wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:36 pm
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:26 pm HansHill;

viewtopic.php?p=25788#p25788
I get that you personally may not be interested in this variable, but as an enthusiast community, we are.

And as an enthusiast community, when critically assessing this, we have very little to go on, except for what a very small number of people (eg Kula, Tauber, Khazan etc) said, so we must be precise and critical with them to ascertain this and other variables. Otherwise there is nothing to discuss.
Why are the "enthusiast community" of so-called revisionists so enthusiastic on discussions about how the Kula column worked, but not on the history of what happened to the millions of Jews arrested by the Nazis and their Allies, 1939-44 and where they were in 1944 and 1945 when the war ended?
Reported for lying. There have been dozens of resettlement, burial, and "where are they?" threads.

Stop trying to bait me with your slop.
There have been dozens of those threads, and yet, there has been no detailed presentation of evidence of millions of arrested Jews in camps and ghettos in 1944 and being liberated in 1945. You like to go into incredible detail about how the Kula column could have been made and how it worked. But you refuse to go into detail about the closure of all the ghettos by the autumn of 1944, what the camp populations were then and how many Jews were liberated in 1945. If you proved, by meticulously going through each camp and ghetto, in the way you go into meticulous detail over the Kula column, that millions of Jews were alive in 1944-5, you would have proved the claims they were mass murdered are false.

I am not lying about what you prefer to go into detail about. It is not slop to ask for the type of evidence that would prove there had been no mass murders and to discuss why you cannot produce it.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:25 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:24 pm I am not lying about what you prefer to go into detail about.
Yes you are.