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Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:19 am
by HansHill
bombsaway wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:47 pm I don't buy it lol

https://chatgpt.com/share/68928871-bbe4 ... 6e977567b2
When someone accuses another of lying, they almost always mean the person is intentionally trying to deceive — not just that they are saying something untrue.
I'm not even going to say you're lying about what you meant here. Likely you realized how stupid it was to believe that Confused Jew has been lying - the evidence is overwhelming that these are AI hallucinations and his repeated use of them as well as transparency about it is evidence of honesty - and are internally backtracking. But the damage has been done, you and HansHill have shown your biases and their reality distorting effect.

It's obvious what an anti semite means when they're talking about lying Jews and such.
Oh no, you're not going to well ackshually your way out of this. Having an expectation of honesty, integrity and consistency is pretty basic. Look at Confused Jew's post count. Look at the examples I pulled. This person has been here repeating the same outright falsifications, contradictions and lies for months on end, with each one being addressed multiple times which he is simply ignoring. This is deception whether you like it or not, and it's despicable and to try well ackshually it any other way, as well as it in and of itself is deceitful. "Oh he's just out here making genuine mistakes by accident!"

As other posters have noticed, his lies, fabrications, falsehoods contradictions and jibberish are not only shitting up the board, but in turn feeding other hallucinations and indeed finding their way into SEO algorithms as Wetzelrad has kindly demonstrated. Somebody could hyptothetically google the alkalinity of Krema walls and walk away with the answer they were acidic, all because of this moron.

"well ackshually"

LOL the absolute state of anti-revisionists.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:26 am
by HansHill
To drill this point home as if it even needs further clarification, here's what actual integrity looks like from an exchange between Dr Numar Patru and I

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Once Dr Patru corrected my mistake and i was satisfied he was correct, I immediately retracted my argument in public. Now - let it be known that there is no love lost between Dr Patru and I, and that he quite literally wished death upon me in a prior thread.

Do you understand now Bombsaway, why this moron is out here shitting up our board and it is unacceptable?

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:58 am
by Nessie
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:14 am
TlsMS93 wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 2:08 am It's so simple, but the recalcitrant prefer to fight against reason.
People are reluctant to accept certain truths because it's too heavy to give up the lie.
They even make them something existential. Jews must think: ‘What are we without the Holocaust? How will we maintain our unity?’
Yes!
I admire the patience of those prepared to go over and over the fairly simple and straightforward details of the legally protected mass-gassing narrative that defy basic science.
Just because some people think it defies basic science, does not mean therefore it did not happen.
I admire it because it values stating truth above being appreciated, or respected, let alone thanked.

How many recalcitrant true-believers in the mass-gassing mythology have ever been corrected, or ever acknowledged the absurdity of some of the sacrosanct holyH beliefs?

I’m not aware of a single person over a decade of following these online debates.
Anyone who sees through the so-called revisionist claims about science, which are dressed up logically flawed arguments from incredulity, is unlikely to then side with them. Just because some people think the mass gassing, cremation, grave evidence is absurd, does not mean those events did not happen.
I admire the patient explanations, as apparently increasing numbers are realising the truth of the revisionist argument. And that presumably is due to a great degree from people anonymously visiting CODOH.
It is worrying how many people fall for the obvious lies and deceptions by so-called revisionist.
It was from anonymously reading the discussions on CODOH as a newbie to the topic that I myself realised that the true-believers who try to defend the flaws have no logical argument.
The events of the Holocaust are proved by evidence, not argument.
The mass-gassing-of-millions narrative has no credibility.
That is a matter of opinion and it has no evidential value.
The Holocaust-Emperor is nude!!!

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People — especially jewish ones — are unable to admit the truths of holocaust revisionism not because they are so complex and technical. Most of the core issues aren’t.
I think they are unable to accept these truths because they subliminally fear they cannot handle the psychological disturbance that will result.
Thankfully, a good proportion of people are able to understand evidencing and can see how well the Holocaust is evidenced. It is the group of so-called revisionists who cannot accept that evidence, hence they deny much of it, hence they are normally referred to as Holocaust deniers, who are unable to accept that because they cannot revise the history, they are left with argument, and that argument is logically flawed.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:07 pm
by TlsMS93
Nessie wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:58 am
Thankfully, a good proportion of people are able to understand evidencing and can see how well the Holocaust is evidenced. It is the group of so-called revisionists who cannot accept that evidence, hence they deny much of it, hence they are normally referred to as Holocaust deniers, who are unable to accept that because they cannot revise the history, they are left with argument, and that argument is logically flawed.
Saying there's evidence is a generic argument. What we're doing here is discussing and debating the so-called evidence, and you complete the vicious cycle that arguing about the evidence is because we don't want to accept it, and therefore we don't function as revisionists.

We already know your tribal modus operandi.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:01 pm
by Nessie
TlsMS93 wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:07 pm
Nessie wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:58 am
Thankfully, a good proportion of people are able to understand evidencing and can see how well the Holocaust is evidenced. It is the group of so-called revisionists who cannot accept that evidence, hence they deny much of it, hence they are normally referred to as Holocaust deniers, who are unable to accept that because they cannot revise the history, they are left with argument, and that argument is logically flawed.
Saying there's evidence is a generic argument. What we're doing here is discussing and debating the so-called evidence, and you complete the vicious cycle that arguing about the evidence is because we don't want to accept it, and therefore we don't function as revisionists.

We already know your tribal modus operandi.
The Bischoff Letter is not so-called evidence. It was found at the A-B camp construction office. The information it contains is corroborated by other sources. Since it states what you do not want to believe, your MO is to think up excuses to dismiss it. You then cannot revise the evidence of how many people were being cremated at the Kremas, as you have dismissed all the other evidence as well.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:24 pm
by bombsaway
HansHill wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:19 am
bombsaway wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:47 pm I don't buy it lol

https://chatgpt.com/share/68928871-bbe4 ... 6e977567b2
When someone accuses another of lying, they almost always mean the person is intentionally trying to deceive — not just that they are saying something untrue.
I'm not even going to say you're lying about what you meant here. Likely you realized how stupid it was to believe that Confused Jew has been lying - the evidence is overwhelming that these are AI hallucinations and his repeated use of them as well as transparency about it is evidence of honesty - and are internally backtracking. But the damage has been done, you and HansHill have shown your biases and their reality distorting effect.

It's obvious what an anti semite means when they're talking about lying Jews and such.
Oh no, you're not going to well ackshually your way out of this. Having an expectation of honesty, integrity and consistency is pretty basic. Look at Confused Jew's post count. Look at the examples I pulled. This person has been here repeating the same outright falsifications, contradictions and lies for months on end, with each one being addressed multiple times which he is simply ignoring. This is deception whether you like it or not, and it's despicable and to try well ackshually it any other way, as well as it in and of itself is deceitful. "Oh he's just out here making genuine mistakes by accident!"

As other posters have noticed, his lies, fabrications, falsehoods contradictions and jibberish are not only shitting up the board, but in turn feeding other hallucinations and indeed finding their way into SEO algorithms as Wetzelrad has kindly demonstrated. Somebody could hyptothetically google the alkalinity of Krema walls and walk away with the answer they were acidic, all because of this moron.

"well ackshually"

LOL the absolute state of anti-revisionists.
I mean I agree more or less he was "shitting up the board" with low quality AI responses, but this is not deception. Do you think CJ doesn't believe the Holocaust happened? Are you saying he is lying about his motives? The accusation is pretty incomprehensible. No evidence suggests anything other than a dude who is not very familiar with the history trying to use AI to level the playing field somewhat.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 4:29 pm
by HansHill
bombsaway wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:24 pm
HansHill wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:19 am
bombsaway wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:47 pm I don't buy it lol

https://chatgpt.com/share/68928871-bbe4 ... 6e977567b2



I'm not even going to say you're lying about what you meant here. Likely you realized how stupid it was to believe that Confused Jew has been lying - the evidence is overwhelming that these are AI hallucinations and his repeated use of them as well as transparency about it is evidence of honesty - and are internally backtracking. But the damage has been done, you and HansHill have shown your biases and their reality distorting effect.

It's obvious what an anti semite means when they're talking about lying Jews and such.
Oh no, you're not going to well ackshually your way out of this. Having an expectation of honesty, integrity and consistency is pretty basic. Look at Confused Jew's post count. Look at the examples I pulled. This person has been here repeating the same outright falsifications, contradictions and lies for months on end, with each one being addressed multiple times which he is simply ignoring. This is deception whether you like it or not, and it's despicable and to try well ackshually it any other way, as well as it in and of itself is deceitful. "Oh he's just out here making genuine mistakes by accident!"

As other posters have noticed, his lies, fabrications, falsehoods contradictions and jibberish are not only shitting up the board, but in turn feeding other hallucinations and indeed finding their way into SEO algorithms as Wetzelrad has kindly demonstrated. Somebody could hyptothetically google the alkalinity of Krema walls and walk away with the answer they were acidic, all because of this moron.

"well ackshually"

LOL the absolute state of anti-revisionists.
I mean I agree more or less he was "shitting up the board" with low quality AI responses, but this is not deception. Do you think CJ doesn't believe the Holocaust happened? Are you saying he is lying about his motives? The accusation is pretty incomprehensible. No evidence suggests anything other than a dude who is not very familiar with the history trying to use AI to level the playing field somewhat.
Let me make this really simple. The dude came here to "defend the Holocaust" i'm not going to crawl through his posts again, because I did that yesterday and lost about 80 IQ point in the process, but those were his words pretty much verbatim. A person with a defensive motive to come here can reasonably be described as a Holocaust activist. I personally think he is using screenshots and other content from here to use in places like Reddit or X or Discord or whathaveyou, I can't prove that, but I don't think that would be controversial to theorise. So i will describe him as a Holocaust activist for the purpose of this post.

Day 1:

"Prussian Blue didn't form because concrete is acidic, therefore Rudolf is rebutted" - Holocaust activist
"This is incorrect because X, Y, Z citations, reference material, studies" - Holocaust revisionist

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Day 2:

"Prussian Blue didn't form because concrete is acidic, therefore Rudolf is rebutted" - Holocaust activist
"Hang on, we've been over this - this is incorrect because X, Y, Z citations, reference material, studies" - Holocaust revisionist

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Day 3:

"Prussian Blue didn't form because concrete is acidic, therefore Rudolf is rebutted" - Holocaust activist
Excuse me, are you not paying attention?? X, Y, Z citations, reference material, studies - please stop lying" - Holocaust revisionist

===

Day 1 could reasonably be described as an "honest mistake". I think its a reach, given everything we know about him. Day 2 at best, is him being careless, but more like he is plain ignorant and disinterested in actual debate

By Day 3 Bombsaway, he is being outright lying about the material, and is being utterly deceitful in his approach to the Holocaust and very presence. He is not here to "learn" despite saying this about 50 times. If this were true, he would... you know, learn.

He is a liar, he is an activist, he is woefully uninformed. At least people like you, Nessie, Dr Saniycheck and Dr Patru display familiarity and/or competence with the material.

*Inb4 - but he didn't say those things 3 days in a row. Yes i know i'm summarising 4 months of content into 3 wedges.
** Mods yes i know this is off topic and technically against the rules because I called Confused Jew a liar. It felt good though.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 4:39 pm
by Stubble
HansHill wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 4:29 pm He is not here to "learn" despite saying this about 50 times. If this were true, he would... you know, learn.
This, is the point, right here.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:15 pm
by AreYouSirius
bombsaway wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:24 pm I mean I agree more or less he was "shitting up the board" with low quality AI responses, but this is not deception.
It is deception.

If I were adverse to the researchers at this forum and attempted to use an LLM to form my arguments, I’d probably say “I ran this by ChatGPT and here’s what it says about [XYZ] issue.” I wouldn’t want to fall on the sword of an AI hallucination.

And why would I quote it instead of creating the illusion that I did my own research? Because if I attempted to pass of paragraphs that weren’t mine as my own, it would be an act of deception. In an academic environment this would be grounds for failure and, possibly, expulsion.

ConfusedJew, who is clearly inept at forming an LLM prompt, still somehow managed to prompt the LLM to form a first-person response. So in all the ineptness, there is still a demonstration of cunning capability.

This is clearly deception. Their actions carried malicious intent, and members of this forum are correct to call it out.

Re: Bischoff Letter

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:21 pm
by TlsMS93
Nessie wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:01 pm
The Bischoff Letter is not so-called evidence. It was found at the A-B camp construction office. The information it contains is corroborated by other sources. Since it states what you do not want to believe, your MO is to think up excuses to dismiss it. You then cannot revise the evidence of how many people were being cremated at the Kremas, as you have dismissed all the other evidence as well.
There's a document from Hitler demonstrating a willingness to negotiate peace, and historians don't take it seriously, despite the fact that it's also a fallacy that he wanted war. To believe that historians are impartial and have no tribal or political bias when analyzing material is something only naive people like you, who carelessly cite.

Only a madman would take this Bischoff letter seriously, and there are other letters that contradict it, and other testimonies even claim that the figures in this letter are conservative and that double the amount could have been achieved.