Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 6:31 am
Courts and historians will accept corroborating eyewitness evidence. Your alien abduction analogy is a false one. The eyewitnesses to gas chambers are corroborated by other forms of evidence.
Alien abduction believers claim that too!! Your crop-circles-like corroborating "evidence" for the Nazi gas chambers is just a gross deception, as vastly demonstrated in this and other threads.
Show me evidence, from aliens, of abduction. You know that I can show you evidence, from Nazis, that they constructed gas chambers inside the Kremas for a special action that involved undressing, multiple corpse cremations, the theft of property, involving inform prisoners, Jews and Hungarians, which meant any evidence of their existence ended.
Your self deception that the evidence left by the Nazis is the equivalent to non eyewitness evidence to alien abductions, only fools you.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
I meet the burden of proof for the claim that gas chambers existed, by producing corroborating evidence from multiple sources.
No, you didn't. You only kept dancing around your reverse burden of proof totem and occasionally threw more testimonial BS at me out of despair.
I have produced corroborating evidence from eyewitnesses, documents, imagery, physical and circumstantial evidence, of mass murder in the gas chambers.
What you call reverse burden of proof, is my request that you produce evidence for your claims the mass gassings were hoaxed.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
You fail to evidence your claim there were no gas chambers.
Yeah, just like I failed to evidence my claim there are no unicorns...
You are confused about the burden of proof. When you claim no gassings took place, you need to evidence and prove that claim. If I claimed the British did not bomb Dresden in 1945, you would expect me to evidence that claim.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
I don't expect you to prove my claim of gas chambers is false. Instead, I produce evidence they existed.
All conspiracy theorists produce evidence that their claims are true. But there is a difference between bogus or weak evidence and solid evidence. See the difference now?
The corroborating evidence for mass gassings, is strong. For a start, all of the SS camp staff, German civilian engineers and Jewish prisoners from multiple countries all agree on their existence. Not one single eyewitness who worked inside a Krema, has been traced, who states there were no mass gassings and what happened instead. Those eyewitnesses are corroborated by documents found at the camp's construction office and at Topf & Sons. Then there is the evidence of motive, opportunity and conduct after the crime.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
Now you are a lying Holocaust denier, who refuses to accept the evidence gathered to prove mass murder in the gas chambers.
Just like you refuse to accept the evidence gathered to prove alien abductions, bigfoots and unicorns, don't you?
False analogy. Alien abductions, bigfoots and unicorns have been evidenced not to exist as the witnesses claim. The evidence for them, put forward by believers, is weak.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
You fail to produce any evidence of your accusation against the war crimes investigators.
War crimes investigators and prosecutors didn't produce evidence of their accusations against the Nazis.
Liar. They gathered statements from witnesses and the Nazi accused, along with tracing documents, conducting site examinations and preserving physical evidence.
Hence the orthodox/antirevisionist conspiracy theory of only oral orders, murderous code words and euphemisms in documents, gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, dynamited gas chambers, mobile concealment squads destroying mass graves and the corpses of alleged victims, and bonfires of incriminating documents before the arrival of Soviet-Allied troops. Explaining why there exists no clear, unambiguous tangible evidence for their claims is the narrative concocted by the victors of WW2. Not my fault.
The disguising of gas chambers to look like showers is evidenced by multiple eyewitnesses, a document recording shower fittings and the physical find of a shower head in the ruins of Krema II. That the Nazis, knowing they were being accused of using the Kremas at Birkenau as gas chambers, destroyed them, is evidence of a cover up of a crime.
And I produced evidence of my accusation that the gas-chamber story was just a rehashed atrocity story from the First World War. Not my fault either that the propagandists of WW2 so patently copied-and-pasted an old anti-German propaganda lie made up 26 years earlier rather than inventing a completely new one to better cover their tracks. Blame those lazy asses for it, not me.
You produced the hypothesis that the WWII gas chamber claims were rehashed WWI atrocity stories. You presented no evidence that the Kremas did not have gas chambers.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
Your claim that Allied bombing caused starvation and typhus amongst Jewish prisoners is false, as you cannot evidence it. Just as you cannot evidence of hoaxing of the mass murder in gas chambers.
Your claim that the Allied obliteration-bombings destroyed the transport system, the factories, the cities and the infrastructure of a country but didn't cause a major health disaster (including the scourge of "war fever") in that area is real denial!! Ridiculous...
You cannot explain how Allied bombs caused the SS camp staff to stop treating and feeding only the Jewish prisoners and not others such as POWs.
Re: Comments on other threads.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:10 pm
by Eye of Zyclone
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 am
Show me evidence, from aliens, of abduction.
Alien abductions & encounters enthusiasts are like Holohoax believers. They can't think outside their most cherished paradigm and therefore see compelling "evidence" in anything and everything.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 amYou know that I can show you evidence, from Nazis, that they constructed gas chambers inside the Kremas for a special action that involved undressing, multiple corpse cremations, the theft of property, involving inform prisoners, Jews and Hungarians, which meant any evidence of their existence ended.
No you can't. You believe you can because you just ignore the facts that gaskammer was the German name of delousing gas chambers for the anti-typhus fumigation of clothes and beddings and that cremation is not a criminal thing in itself.
You're like the ghost hunters who see undeniable evidence of paranormal activities in the slightest creak of some stairs and in every squeak of a door.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 am
Your self deception that the evidence left by the Nazis is the equivalent to non eyewitness evidence to alien abductions, only fools you.
Yeah, keep repeating it. You might end up convincing yourself of that after a while.
But there is a difference between the so-called eyewitness testimonies to alien abductions and the so-called eyewitness testimonies to Nazi gas chambers. There are many more eyewitness testimonies to alien abductions than eyewitness testimonies to Nazi gas chambers. Ditto for bigfoot sightings.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
I have produced corroborating evidence from eyewitnesses, documents, imagery, physical and circumstantial evidence, of mass murder in the gas chambers.
No, you haven't. Your dearest beliefs and your stubbornness of Zionist political activist make you falsely believe that you have, but you haven't.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 amWhat you call reverse burden of proof, is my request that you produce evidence for your claims the mass gassings were hoaxed.
If that's reverse burden of proof for Israel and the anti-Zionist atrocity stories made up by anti-Israel propagandists (as you conceded a few comments ago), that's also reverse burden of proof for Holocaust revisionists and the Zionist atrocity story of Nazi gas chambers made up by anti-German & Zionist propagandists during WW2. Just a matter of consistency and basic logic. I know that double standards are the core of Jewishness, but you switch your evidentiary standards like you do without looking like a big liar.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
You are confused about the burden of proof. When you claim no gassings took place, you need to evidence and prove that claim. If I claimed the British did not bomb Dresden in 1945, you would expect me to evidence that claim.
No, I would only expect you to show that the evidence of the Dresden bombing doesn't stand.
The Dresden-bombing affirmers are accusers. The Dresden-bombing disbelievers are not.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 amThe corroborating evidence for mass gassings, is strong. For a start, all of the SS camp staff, German civilian engineers and Jewish prisoners from multiple countries all agree on their existence. Not one single eyewitness who worked inside a Krema, has been traced, who states there were no mass gassings and what happened instead. Those eyewitnesses are corroborated by documents found at the camp's construction office and at Topf & Sons. Then there is the evidence of motive, opportunity and conduct after the crime.
No, it's not. As conceded by some of your buddies...
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
False analogy. Alien abductions, bigfoots and unicorns have been evidenced not to exist as the witnesses claim. The evidence for them, put forward by believers, is weak.
No, they haven't been evidenced to not exist. They have rather failed to be proven by solid evidence. Only testimonial "evidence" supports the theory of their existence. As it is for the propaganda story of Nazi gas chambers, whether you like or not.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
Liar. They gathered statements from witnesses and the Nazi accused, along with tracing documents, conducting site examinations and preserving physical evidence.
What physical evidence ? Empty cans of Zyklon B and piles of human hair ? Don't make me laugh !
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
The disguising of gas chambers to look like showers is evidenced by multiple eyewitnesses,
So is the anal probing of alleged abductees in the alien abduction folklore.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
a document recording shower fittings and the physical find of a shower head in the ruins of Krema II. That the Nazis, knowing they were being accused of using the Kremas at Birkenau as gas chambers, destroyed them, is evidence of a cover up of a crime.
See our past discussion about Mattogno and the never-implemented project of emergency hygiene facilities in the crematoria of Birkenau for a proper refutation of your conspiratorial horror tale and paranoid assumptions...
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
You produced the hypothesis that the WWII gas chamber claims were rehashed WWI atrocity stories. You presented no evidence that the Kremas did not have gas chambers.
I also presented no evidence that this world did not have unicorns, but I'm still a unicorn denier despite that.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
You cannot explain how Allied bombs caused the SS camp staff to stop treating and feeding only the Jewish prisoners and not others such as POWs.
They did not stop treating and feeding only the Jewish prisoners. Hence the big piles of dead bodies at Dachau and Buchenwald, where there were almost no Jewish prisoners. And the POW camps did not receive groups of lice-infested Jews who had been evacuated from eastern camps (typhus was endemic in Eastern Europe during the 1st half of the 20th century). So no big outbreak of typhus epidemics happened there. QED...
Google's AI :
In the 20th century, epidemic typhus was one of the deadliest scourges in Eastern Europe. Spread by body lice in the unsanitary conditions of war and famine, it caused roughly 30 million cases and 3 million deaths between 1918 and 1922 alone. Typhus remained endemic in the region until mass delousing campaigns and the use of the insecticide DDT during the mid-20th century finally helped eradicate major outbreaks.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 am
Show me evidence, from aliens, of abduction.
Alien abductions & encounters enthusiasts are like Holohoax believers. They can't think outside their most cherished paradigm and therefore see compelling "evidence" in anything and everything.
No, they see compelling evidence from contemporaneous sources, such as eyewitnesses who worked inside the Kremas and documents pertaining to their operation.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 amYou know that I can show you evidence, from Nazis, that they constructed gas chambers inside the Kremas for a special action that involved undressing, multiple corpse cremations, the theft of property, involving inform prisoners, Jews and Hungarians, which meant any evidence of their existence ended.
You believe you can because you just ignore the facts that gaskammer was the German name of delousing gas chambers for the anti-typhus fumigation of clothes and beddings and that cremation is not a criminal thing in itself.
That the gas chambers and cremation ovens on their own, with no context, are not evidence of mass murder, is not ignored. That is why contemporaneous evidence has been gathered to establish context and narrative. Historians can, from the evidence, show a chronological narrative of events, proving what took place inside the Kremas 1943-4. Revisionists cannot do that.
You're like the ghost hunters who see undeniable evidence of paranormal activities in the slightest creak of some stairs and in every squeak of a door.
Lie. Historians concentrate on the most contemporaneous of the evidence, such as eyewitnesses who worked inside the Kremas and documents pertaining to their operation in 1943-4.
Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:48 am
Your self deception that the evidence left by the Nazis is the equivalent to non eyewitness evidence to alien abductions, only fools you.
Yeah, keep repeating it. You might end up convincing yourself of that after a while.
But there is a difference between the so-called eyewitness testimonies to alien abductions and the so-called eyewitness testimonies to Nazi gas chambers. There are many more eyewitness testimonies to alien abductions than eyewitness testimonies to Nazi gas chambers. Ditto for bigfoot sightings.
The difference between the two, is that gassing eyewitnesses are corroborated by physical, documentary and circumstantial evidence and the others are not.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
I have produced corroborating evidence from eyewitnesses, documents, imagery, physical and circumstantial evidence, of mass murder in the gas chambers.
No, you haven't. Your dearest beliefs and your stubbornness of Zionist political activist make you falsely believe that you have, but you haven't.
The only persons who believe your lie, is you and like-minded Holocaust deniers. The standard and quantity of evidence for gassings, far exceeds any denier/revisionist suggested usage.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 amWhat you call reverse burden of proof, is my request that you produce evidence for your claims the mass gassings were hoaxed.
If that's reverse burden of proof for Israel and the anti-Zionist atrocity stories made up by anti-Israel propagandists (as you conceded a few comments ago), that's also reverse burden of proof for Holocaust revisionists and the Zionist atrocity story of Nazi gas chambers made up by anti-German & Zionist propagandists during WW2. Just a matter of consistency and basic logic. I know that double standards are the core of Jewishness, but you switch your evidentiary standards like you do without looking like a big liar.
There has been no change from me, from the standard burden of proof being on the claimant. If an anti-Israel propagandist makes a anti-Zionist atrocity claim about Israel, the burden of proof is on them. If a Holocaust denier claims all the eyewitnesses to gassings lied, the burden of proof is on them. If a historian claims the Kremas had operational homicidal gas chambers, the burden of proof is on them.
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:33 am
You are confused about the burden of proof. When you claim no gassings took place, you need to evidence and prove that claim. If I claimed the British did not bomb Dresden in 1945, you would expect me to evidence that claim.
No, I would only expect you to show that the evidence of the Dresden bombing doesn't stand.
The Dresden-bombing affirmers are accusers. The Dresden-bombing disbelievers are not.
By expecting me to show the evidence of the Dresden bombing does not stand, you are expecting me to take on the burden of proof. I would have to provide evidence to prove the images of a bombed out Dresden were faked, or of some other place and that the eyewitnesses to the bombing lied. You are incorrectly excusing "disbelievers" from the burden of proof for their disbelief.
Many Holocaust revisionists understand their burden of proof, hence Mattogno suggests the Kremas were developed for mass showers, or Prudent Regret claims the AR camps were property sorting centres. That they all fail to prove what those places were used for, is why the likes of yourself try to wriggle out of your burden of proof.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 amThe corroborating evidence for mass gassings, is strong. For a start, all of the SS camp staff, German civilian engineers and Jewish prisoners from multiple countries all agree on their existence. Not one single eyewitness who worked inside a Krema, has been traced, who states there were no mass gassings and what happened instead. Those eyewitnesses are corroborated by documents found at the camp's construction office and at Topf & Sons. Then there is the evidence of motive, opportunity and conduct after the crime.
No, it's not. As conceded by some of your buddies...
There is nothing that you link to, that is a claim the corroborating eyewitness evidence from Nazi and Jew who worked inside the Kremas, is weak.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
False analogy. Alien abductions, bigfoots and unicorns have been evidenced not to exist as the witnesses claim. The evidence for them, put forward by believers, is weak.
No, they haven't been evidenced to not exist. They have rather failed to be proven by solid evidence. Only testimonial "evidence" supports the theory of their existence. As it is for the propaganda story of Nazi gas chambers, whether you like or not.
They have been evidenced to not exist, by a failure to find evidence of their existence and evidence that can trace their stories, back to mythology with the unicorns and hoaxers with big foot and aliens.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
Liar. They gathered statements from witnesses and the Nazi accused, along with tracing documents, conducting site examinations and preserving physical evidence.
What physical evidence ? Empty cans of Zyklon B and piles of human hair ? Don't make me laugh !
The physical evidence of the ruins of the buildings, and finds such as parts of a gas mask, a shower head, cans of Zyklon B, human hair, other property stolen from the victims. They corroborate the witness claims about people being told to undress, they were going for showers, the use of gas and the mass theft of the personal possessions of those killed.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
The disguising of gas chambers to look like showers is evidenced by multiple eyewitnesses,
So is the anal probing of alleged abductees in the alien abduction folklore.
They are not corroborated by the finding of a probe. The gassing witnesses are corrobroated by the finding of a shower head and document referring to shower fittings.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
a document recording shower fittings and the physical find of a shower head in the ruins of Krema II. That the Nazis, knowing they were being accused of using the Kremas at Birkenau as gas chambers, destroyed them, is evidence of a cover up of a crime.
See our past discussion about Mattogno and the never-implemented project of emergency hygiene facilities in the crematoria of Birkenau for a proper refutation of your conspiratorial horror tale and paranoid assumptions...
How does a hypothetical about a project that is admitted to never happening, evidence to prove what did happen?
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
You produced the hypothesis that the WWII gas chamber claims were rehashed WWI atrocity stories. You presented no evidence that the Kremas did not have gas chambers.
I also presented no evidence that this world did not have unicorns, but I'm still a unicorn denier despite that.
There is evidence of no unicorns, as none have even been traced, but the development of the unicorn story, as a myth, has.
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:50 am
You cannot explain how Allied bombs caused the SS camp staff to stop treating and feeding only the Jewish prisoners and not others such as POWs.
They did not stop treating and feeding only the Jewish prisoners. Hence the big piles of dead bodies at Dachau and Buchenwald, where there were almost no Jewish prisoners. And the POW camps did not receive groups of lice-infested Jews who had been evacuated from eastern camps (typhus was endemic in Eastern Europe during the 1st half of the 20th century). So no big outbreak of typhus epidemics happened there. QED...
Google's AI :
In the 20th century, epidemic typhus was one of the deadliest scourges in Eastern Europe. Spread by body lice in the unsanitary conditions of war and famine, it caused roughly 30 million cases and 3 million deaths between 1918 and 1922 alone. Typhus remained endemic in the region until mass delousing campaigns and the use of the insecticide DDT during the mid-20th century finally helped eradicate major outbreaks.
Please evidence mass deaths due to typhus and starvation, amongst Allied POWs.
