Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

[Keen]

Nessie:

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

How many mass graves have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many mass graves alleged by so-called "eyewitnesses" have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

Nessie's answer:

11.

Which 11?

Nessie's answer:

G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

Note: Retardo listed 12

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F164 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - what standard of proof are you referring to?

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 are actual mass graves - what standard of proof are you referring to?

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one single, disconnected human tooth: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one pound of cremated human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 22 human beings: _?_.

Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: _?_.

Nessie's answer:

I don't know

Nessie:

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.

Let's see the proof that Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proved that G36 is a filled in pit.

[Nessie]

Nessie:



Let's see the proof Roberto.

Let's start with G36.

I am not Roberto. You will get answers when you address me as Nessie, using the male pronoun, with no abuse and you answer my questions.

Look at it run!

When you address me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, there is no abuse and you answer my questions, you get answers. When you do anything else, you get no answer. Why are you so afraid and run from debate, when you can do simple things to get a debate with me?

[Keen]

Nessie:

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

How many mass graves have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many mass graves alleged by so-called "eyewitnesses" have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

Nessie's answer:

11.

Which 11?

Nessie's answer:

G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

Note: Retardo listed 12

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F164 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 are not actually garbage pits?

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - what standard of proof are you referring to?

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 are actual mass graves - what standard of proof are you referring to?

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one single, disconnected human tooth: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one pound of cremated human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 22 human beings: _?_.

Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: _?_.

Nessie's answer:

I don't know

Nessie:

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.

Let's see the proof that Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proved that G36 is a filled in pit.

[Hektor]

11?

Keen, you should grab the contemporary 1940's 3 witness maps and ask him to show you on them. There are 3 of them. They indicate only 4 'huge mass graves', that happen to coincide with the GPR/LIDAR returns for g51, g52, g53 and g54.

That could be coincidental, and nothing has been 'proved up', but, if I were going to drop shovel and excavate, I'd start by going right there, because if there are any collections of bodies in various states at that camp, x marks the spot.

The rest, it isn't indicated by the collaborative witness maps, and if you want the truth out of a man, put him in a room with 2 more.

/shrug

Assuming there would have been mass graves with 100s or even 1000s of corpses would still be in line with the Revisionist POV on Treblinka. So Holocautians need to show a bit more than a few Bones they then try to extrapolate to 'huge mass graves'....

Agreed. We both know exactly why no shovel will drop exactly on those 4 spots. Then the exterminationists would be stuck trying to explain 'where they goed'...

The grave space is a thimble.

1. If they fined remains they will say that proves Holocaust.
2. Lack of evidence will be explained away.

Essentially closed loop conclusions and question begging. "The Holocaust happen".... meaning anything becomes evidence, if it suits. And absence of evidence is explained by "Nazis hiding the traces of their crimes".

[Stubble]

You've got to admit, confirming the grave space is that small would be absolutely damning to anyone who had eyes to see.

We know they would try to wrap it is 'see, this proves what we say, there are 3,000,000 people in this hole'. It wouldn't fly though.

Hence, it will never happen.

There is a monument to buried 'jewish soap'.

[Keen]

Assuming there would have been mass graves with 100s or even 1000s of corpses would still be in line with the Revisionist POV on Treblinka. So Holocautians need to show a bit more than a few Bones they then try to extrapolate to 'huge mass graves'....

Agreed. We both know exactly why no shovel will drop exactly on those 4 spots. Then the exterminationists would be stuck trying to explain 'where they goed'...

The grave space is a thimble.

1. If they fined remains they will say that proves Holocaust.
2. Lack of evidence will be explained away.

Essentially closed loop conclusions and question begging. "The Holocaust happen".... meaning anything becomes evidence, if it suits. And absence of evidence is explained by "Nazis hiding the traces of their crimes".

As per the 91 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II, there is virtually no physical evidence, which would HAVE to be there if the story is true, but it's not. There is no scientific evidence. There is no conclusive evidence. There is no clear and convincing evidence. Even the so-called circumstantial evidence is laughably weak. That is why the reality deniers steadfastly refuse to state what standard of "proof" they alleged when they allege that mass graves have been proven to exist. That is why they have to play the "convergence of evidence" game, which is really nothing but sophistry.

[Keen]

You've got to admit, confirming the grave space is that small would be absolutely damning to anyone who had eyes to see.

We know they would try to wrap it is 'see, this proves what we say, there are 3,000,000 people in this hole'. It wouldn't fly though.

Like this "huge mass grave" here:

[Nessie]

....
1. If they fined remains they will say that proves Holocaust.
2. Lack of evidence will be explained away.

Essentially closed loop conclusions and question begging. "The Holocaust happen".... meaning anything becomes evidence, if it suits. And absence of evidence is explained by "Nazis hiding the traces of their crimes".

Evidence is evidence, it does not become evidence when it suits. There is no lack of evidence for mass graves at TII. There is eyewitness, archaeological and physical evidence. So-called revisionists hand wave that evidence away, or they minimise it, as it does not suit them.

There is also the evidence of motive, opportunity and the Nazi attempts to hide the traces of what they were doing at TII, from which criminal activity can be inferred.

Jewish and Nazi camp staff all agree, mass pits were dug.
Local Poles reported seeing excavators digging in the camp.
Jewish and Nazi camp staff agree there were exhumations and mass cremations.
Local Poles report months of burning inside the camp and a smell.
An aerial photo and ground photos show large areas of disturbed ground.
Archaeological surveys found disturbed ground and cremated remains over an area of at least 2 hectares.
A geophysical survey found numerous pits.
There is circumstantial evidence of the evidence that c850,000 people arrived at TII with few leaving.

You have to try very hard to deny that evidence, is not evidence of mass graves.

[Nessie]

You've got to admit, confirming the grave space is that small would be absolutely damning to anyone who had eyes to see.

We know they would try to wrap it is 'see, this proves what we say, there are 3,000,000 people in this hole'. It wouldn't fly though.

Hence, it will never happen.

There is a monument to buried 'jewish soap'.

What is the size of the grave space at the camp? Show your evidence.

[Keen]

Bla, bla, bla.

Getting back to the real issues at hand:

Nessie:

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

How many mass graves have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many mass graves alleged by so-called "eyewitnesses" have been conclusively proven to exist within the boundary of Treblinka II?

How many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

Nessie's answer:

11.

Which 11?

Nessie's answer:

G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

Note: Retardo listed 12

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC scientifically prove that F1, F9 and F16 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Can you prove that F1, F9 and F16 are "filled in pits" - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F16 actually exist - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that F1, F9 and F16 currently contain human remains - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Did CSC conclusively prove that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54, F1, F9 and F16 are not actually garbage pits?

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp - what standard of proof are you referring to?

When you allege that CSC actually proved that G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 and G54 are actual mass graves - what standard of proof are you referring to?

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one single, disconnected human tooth: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least one pound of cremated human remains: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: _?_.

List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 22 human beings: _?_.

Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: _?_.

Nessie's answer:

I don't know

Nessie:

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.

Let's see the proof that Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proved that G36 is a filled in pit.

Note that Roberto is too stupid to know the difference between an actual pit and an alleged filled in pit.

Now let's watch the cornered rat run!

[Nessie]

...

Now let's watch the cornered rat run!

I am not Roberto. If you genuinely want to debate me, then only refer to me as Nessie, use the male pronoun, cut all abuse and when I ask a question, you answer it, before you start to ask me more questions.

Anything else is you cowardly running away from genuine debate.