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Numar Patru
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Re: On Pogroms

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Stubble wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:34 am So far as bizarre claims go, saying Christians frame jews for murdering children is up there man.
There are literally only two possibilities: either Jews murder children or Christians frame them for doing so. If Jews had a tradition or habit of murdering children, it would happen a lot more often and everywhere Jews live. But it doesn’t. That leaves the other possibility. Remind me what medieval Christians thought about Jews?
You claim that this is confined to medieval Europe.
No, I said the accusations started in medieval Europe and have been mostly limited to Europe. I’m an historian of 19th century Europe so I’m aware of most cases.
That's simply not true. Ritual child murder is covered in the bible. It is described by early greeks. Evidence is in the archeological record.
Yes, ritual child murder is described in the Bible and by the Greeks, but not Jews doing it. In fact, the Bible clearly shows the Israelites not doing it. Rather than the common ritual of sacrificing the first born to the gods, which the Israelites continued to do with animals, the Israelites didn’t murder their children for sacrifice.
The first time I brought this fact up, you didn't even address it. Instead you said it was post crusades, Christian exclusive and then you claimed it was the work of child murdering pedophiles that were scapegoating jews.
Yeah, you write long posts of bullshit so I try to focus on the bigger points.
If the defense is that my ancestors were intolerant liars, and scapegoating pedophiles, imagine my surprise when you say I'm the one making 'truly bizarre claims'.
I’m saying that pedophiles likely killed the children who were identified as being ritually murdered. And either they themselves or others in their towns blamed the Jews.

That doesn’t mean that all your ancestors were murdering pedophiles. Get a grip.

But if your ancestors were medieval Christians, then where Jews were concerned, they were very likely highly intolerant.
Jews however protect jewish pedophiles from justice. Today.
Your bizarre focus is noted. Jewish criminals routinely go to Israel in hopes they can duck extradition. That includes pedophiles. There’s only ever been one exception: Meyer Lansky.

Most people fleeing justice would, if they had the means, choose to flee to a place that wouldn’t extradite them. Not rocket science.
If we are dealing in hypotheticals, imagine being a descended from blood drinking pedophiles and telling descendants of people who sought justice that it is their fault.
Simple question: If Jews are blood-drinking pedophiles, then why have there been so few cases of blood libel, starting only in the medieval period, and almost entirely limited to Europe? Got an explanation for that? Because you need one if you really believe that.
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