The CODOH Revisionist Forum

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:39 pm See what a Brazilian author and Jewish critic said about them

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:57 pm Do you have any ability to think for yourself?

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:47 pm

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:39 pm See what a Brazilian author and Jewish critic said about them

Who cares what some nobody thinks?

Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:07 am

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:57 pm Do you have any ability to think for yourself?

Nope, I'm just a wind up toy nazi. I just go with the current talking points.

You know, because I'm literally Hitler and all.

That all you got?

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:20 am

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:47 pm

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:39 pm See what a Brazilian author and Jewish critic said about them

Who cares what some nobody thinks?

You care, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:00 am Cool, another Nazibot for me to ignore.

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 pm Regarding genocide, the very first part of the genocide is clearly killing. But which of the non-killing forms are white people experiencing. Is it causing serious bodily harm? It is preventing births? Is it being exposed to conditions of life designed to cause the group’s destruction? Is it transferring white children to non-whites? If so, can you provide a couple examples?

[...] I think I'll just try to briefly share the observations which I found most important, early on. First, consider some of the official FBI crime statistics data from a recent year, 2019 (I have not checked more recent years but worry the political agendas of late could entail an effort to skew the data, so 2019 seemed like a fair starting point): https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls

Within the data linked, there are a couple key observations:

For 2019, there were a total of 3,218 black-offender homicides; note that blacks are about 12% of the US population.

For the same year, there were 2,948 white-offender homicides; whites are about 60% of the US population.

Since the population sizes are different, this adds an extra step to calculate the per capita homicide rate for either group. The simplest way to do this is to multiply the black category by five, to see what these black-offender figures would look like if the black population were as large as the white population. In other words, if blacks were 60% of the population (instead of 12%), we would see 3,218 x 5 = 16,090 black-offender homicides for 2019. Dividing that number by the white-offender total, we have 16,090 / 2948 = 5.5x. Blacks are, therefore, 5.5x as likely per capita to commit murder in 2019.

[Even with the actual population sizes,] blacks are also more than twice as likely to kill whites (566), compared to likelihood of whites killing blacks (246). When factoring in the population size difference, blacks kill whites at a per capita rate of 11.5x (566 x 5 = 2830 versus 246) that of whites killing blacks.

In other words, in the USA, a random white person encountering a random black person is 11.5 times as likely to be killed by that black person, compared to the other way around.

To illustrate: if a white person is walking home from a concert in a sketchy neighborhood and can choose to go down the alleyway on the left (which has a white guy standing in it) versus the alleyway on the right (which has a black guy standing in it), all other variables remaining constant, that white person is 11.5 times as likely to be murdered going down the alleyway on the right.

Which alleyway should a white parent advise their kid(s) to travel down? Or should they say, "it doesn't matter", just to avoid being labeled a "racist"?

Even a black person is much, much safer going down the alleyway on the left (the white one). It's not even close.

Going a bit further back in time (to 2017), the numbers are even higher:

2017: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... d-homicide

"When the race of the offender was known, 54.2 percent were Black or African American, 43.1 percent were White, and 2.6 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 5,368 offenders."

54.2 / 12 = 4.52

43.1 / 60 = 0.72

4.52 / 0.72 = 6.3x as much black-offender murder per capita (compared to 5.5x for 2019)

There is only so much "explaining away" that can be done here. This is not a 20% or even 50% difference in levels of murder and violent crime (which would already be staggering and demanding change). There is so much more murder, violence, rape, etc., being committed by blacks that it is almost unbelievable and I seldom encounter anyone who can even believe these statistics until I lay them out as done above.

I mentioned rape so I suppose I have to justify that one as well. Unfortunately, as I recall, the FBI/DOJ stopped collecting interracial data for rapes as of 2007-8, but the latest data is still on the DOJ website, right here, Table 42: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf

Here is a relevant screenshot:

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Notice that there are 117,640 white rape victims each year. Of those, 16.4% are black offenders. With a simple calculation, it's about 19,293 white victims (overwhelmingly women) who are raped by blacks each year. Meanwhile, it appears zero (0) out of 46,580 black victims were raped by whites.

It can be noted that there is an 'unknown perpetrator' allocation (far right column) but these categories tend to reflect the same composition of what is in the "known" category given the crimes generally take place within the same or similar communities and context. The number of 'unknown' is also generally higher for crime in black communities as blacks are known for infrequent reporting of crimes ("snitches get stitches"), which is a well-documented trend. Altogether, it is probable that all of the 'unknown' within this category are also non-white.

Note that the only reason the overall number of rape incidents is higher in the "white" category (117,640 vs 46,580) is because whites are 60% of the population but blacks are just 12%. But with this in mind, blacks are still committing far, far more rape (even against their own) per capita.

In a nutshell: blacks per capita commit far more rape overall, and infinitely more interracial rape (black/white) than whites do.

As heavy/shocking/unbelievable as this sounds, this is the best available data, showing the actual state of affairs in America.

Beyond murder and rape, there are similar figures for non-fatal violent crime (2018), consistently showing blacks as at least double, triple, or several-fold higher incidents per capita compared to whites: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

So, what does this all mean? It means there is a problem that pertains to blacks and black communities, themselves, that cannot rationally -- not remotely -- be blamed upon whites.

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Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:18 pm Nathan Cofnas is a calipers-wielding racist jackass.

What’s the objection to an “anti-revisionist” moderator? They had them at RODOH.

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:07 am The “logic” you use regarding Jewish/Gentile representation presumes there’s a meaningful distinction to be made there.

Maybe there is. If we went back 75 years, we’d find most positions of power and influence were held by WASPs. Was there a meaningful distinction to be made between WASPs and non-WASPs? If so, what was it? How is whatever separates Jews and Gentiles different?

That Jews predominate in certain fields is certainly true. I’m unsure what you think the reason for this is. I’d argue that Jews have traditionally put a heavy emphasis on education. Moreover, when it was necessary for the first postwar generation of Jews to become educated, the NYC college system was free, which provided a tremendous leg up for that generation.

(Christopher Eisberger isn’t Jewish, btw. The first name is the giveaway there.)

Are Jews smarter? I’m not a big believer in that idea. Other explanations seem more likely to me.

Eisgruber was raised Catholic and married his wife in an Episcopal church. While helping his son, then in the fourth grade, with a school project, he discovered that his Berlin-born mother, who had arrived in New York as an eight-year-old refugee, was Jewish. Today, Eisgruber identifies as a nontheist Jew.[23] His wife is Episcopalian.[24] In 2009, a Holocaust claims tribunal awarded Eisgruber and his three sisters 162,500 Swiss francs, representing the value of the bank account of their maternal great-grandfather, Salomon Kalisch.[2]

If there were no distinction at all, then what we observe would be statistically impossible. It has to be something about "Jewishness" (which is the "anti-Semtic" explanation) or it has to be factors correlated with being Jewish (Cofnas-style apologetics).

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:17 am

If there were no distinction at all, then what we observe would be statistically impossible. It has to be something about "Jewishness" (which is the "anti-Semtic" explanation) or it has to be factors correlated with being Jewish (Cofnas-style apologetics).

As I said, it’s possible that Jews are overrepresented in academia for reasons that are “Jewish,” i.e., the traditional Jewish emphasis on education. Certainly, the large Jewish presence in the legal profession is even more related to specifically Jewish causes, mainly the very high value that the study of law has had within Jewish culture for centuries. This is something even someone as wrongheaded (IMO) as KMac understands.

This strikes me as neither antisemitic nor reliant upon a belief that Jews are inherently intellectually exceptional for whatever reason, genetic or otherwise.

My larger point, however, remains, which is that you wouldn’t see Jewish overrepresentation in certain fields had Jews not accomplished/obtained/whatever “whiteness” first. That’s particularly true about academia, since even places like Harvard used to have a numerus clasus.

My mother’s family is Italian American. She has two first cousins who were vice presidents at Exxon Mobil — highly successful, very wealthy execs. That doesn’t happen if their parents hadn’t been made white at some point.

My father, who’s half Jewish, is a PhD and has two first cousins who are also PhDs. This is on the Jewish side of his family, where there were only eight grandchildren overall. I can’t explain why that happened but that those PhD are all half Jewish (lot of intermarriage in my grandmother’s family — they were very Germanized Jews) and that none were raised Jewish or particularly identified as Jewish (one non-PhD cousin on that side is a Methodist clergyman) would seem to indicate that the Jewish half of their ancestry wasn’t particularly decisive. Rather, that my father and one of his cousins don’t have Jewish surnames and that none of the three was raised Jewish was probably an advantage for them at the time (all were born in the 1940s).

Archie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:43 am

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:07 am The “logic” you use regarding Jewish/Gentile representation presumes there’s a meaningful distinction to be made there.

Maybe there is. If we went back 75 years, we’d find most positions of power and influence were held by WASPs. Was there a meaningful distinction to be made between WASPs and non-WASPs? If so, what was it? How is whatever separates Jews and Gentiles different?
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