The Question of Conspiracy

[HansHill]

It is reasonable to incredulous of an extreme claim that cannot be evidenced and has evidence to the contrary. You have just given yet another example of a failed hoax

The hoax is Holocaust denial, pushing claims that need millions of people, governments, universities and the media to have cooperated for decades.

It was a successful hoax because the war was executed as intended, genius. It falling apart later just like the Holocaust, is to be expected.

[Nessie]

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I have evidence for the murder weapons, their location and type and the evidence of a Nazi cover up to try and destroy as much as possible.

I have the crime scenes and a lot of detail and evidence about them.

I have evidence of large areas of buried, cremated human remains.

Those crime scenes reflect exactly what witnesses described took place at the camps and the attempted cover up.

It does not fill me with faith that you are misrepresenting that volume and scale of evidence there is. You are doing that to deflect from your total lack of evidence.

Nessie, what authority 'ran' the alligators in the sewers hoax?

Perhaps we should say 'legend' rather than hoax. Either way it is both fake and gay.

Giving me examples of failed hoaxes, is not a very good way of convincing me that the Holocaust could be faked.

You absolutely don't have a murder weapon, a crime scene or bodies, because none of those things in fact exist.

You are now barefaced lying.

The extant rooms purported to be 'homicidal gas chambers' are not as described by witnesses, do not exhibit key features described by witnesses and lack any detectable forensic evidence consistent with use as 'homicidal gas chambers'.

None of the extant rooms exist now, as they did in the 1940s, when in use for gassings, to make comparisons with what witnesses said. They describe a lot that can be confirmed, such as the colours of the tiles at TII and the use of shower heads at Birkenau.

It is only your opinion that forensic evidence is inconsistent with the use of gas chambers.

Disclaimer: when referring to 'it' in this context I am referring specifically to 'homicidal gas chambers'. When I say it is an 'urban legend' that does not discount the proven 'fake' gas chambers nor does it disregard the evidence of allied actors being involved in atrocity propaganda. I'm simply stating that a unique management of this legend or hoax as a collective belief is not necessary as the individual pieces were sufficient to let the grand fable become part of the zeitgeist.

You fail at the basic task of evidencing what did happen at the AR camps, Chelmno and A-B Kremas.

[Nessie]

It is reasonable to incredulous of an extreme claim that cannot be evidenced and has evidence to the contrary. You have just given yet another example of a failed hoax

The hoax is Holocaust denial, pushing claims that need millions of people, governments, universities and the media to have cooperated for decades.

It was a successful hoax because the war was executed as intended, genius. It falling apart later just like the Holocaust, is to be expected.

It has not fallen apart. Only anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists believe there was no Holocaust. No government, for whom exposing the Holocaust as a hoax would have been to their benefit, has done so. That is because they cannot, since the evidence for mass murder by gassings and shootings is so strong.

[Stubble]

Nessie, when you ignore the proven hoaxes you do yourself a disservice.

Put the lies on one side of a scale, then put the as yet not disproved atrocity propaganda that you buy on the other.

Now, weigh the evidence.

The main reason the Soviet is so strongly considered when discussing 'extermination camps' is their geographical location and custodial history. While not yet wholly disproved as places where death occurred (you see, people did die in these camps, and so to say they did not would be a lie) the idea of a 'pure extermination camp' is already dead, as it is demonstrable no such place in fact existed. That was a lie. The narrative woven around 'Aktion Reinhard' is also a lie, being promoted to this day. It is a demonstrable lie, and it is being propagated by people who know it is a lie.

There are people out there to this day, lying to you, that know they are lying.

[Nessie]

Nessie, when you ignore the proven hoaxes you do yourself a disservice.

I am not ignoring them, I am using them as evidence that a hoax on the scale of the Holocaust is impossible to pull off.

Put the lies on one side of a scale, then put the as yet not disproved atrocity propaganda that you buy on the other.

Now, weigh the evidence.

I have, the Holocaust is evidenced to have happened and revisionists cannot actually revise the history to evidence what really supposedly happened. Revisionists do not revise, they deny.

The main reason the Soviet is so strongly considered when discussing 'extermination camps' is their geographical location and custodial history.

Their location, primarily in Poland, is explained by the huge Jewish Polish population. The custody history is they were in Nazi hands, then liberated by the Soviets who then handed them over to the Poles to manage. The Soviets then produced no histories of or memorials to the Holocaust, so they left the narrative to other countries to manage.

While not yet wholly disproved as places where death occurred (you see, people did die in these camps, and so to say they did not would be a lie) the idea of a 'pure extermination camp' is already dead, as it is demonstrable no such place in fact existed. That was a lie. The narrative woven around 'Aktion Reinhard' is also a lie, being promoted to this day. It is a demonstrable lie, and it is being propagated by people who know it is a lie.

There are people out there to this day, lying to you, that know they are lying.

You cannot prove that every single person who was inside a death camp lied. You cannot even prove what those places were used for. You fail at that most basic of tasks.

[Stubble]

I can sure prove they weren't pure extermination camps. That's for damn sure.

[Nessie]

I can sure prove they weren't pure extermination camps. That's for damn sure.

You cannot prove anything, without evidence and you have no witnesses, documents etc to prove what otherwise happened inside the death camps.