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Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:09 pm
by Nessie
Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:34 pm
by HansHill
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:09 pm Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.
Good question Nessie. To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong), no Revisionist has yet been given access or means to produce a quantity analysis of the kind you are requesting on site.

It sounds like we are on the same page here, for once, and I would strongly support you were you to begin campaigning openly for an analysis of this kind being performed!

**Edit**

Anyway this has derailed Stubble's Dresden thread long enough, please take any "rebuttal" you may have to any of the AR threads and I'll join you there.

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:14 pm
by Nessie
HansHill wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:34 pm
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:09 pm Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.
Good question Nessie. To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong), no Revisionist has yet been given access or means to produce a quantity analysis of the kind you are requesting on site.
I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?
It sounds like we are on the same page here, for once, and I would strongly support you were you to begin campaigning openly for an analysis of this kind being performed!
I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:20 pm
by HansHill
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:14 pm I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?

I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?
Start a Richard Krege thread.

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 4:21 pm
by Nessie
HansHill wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:20 pm
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:14 pm I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?

I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?
Start a Richard Krege thread.
Do you accept the evidence of the Dresden pyres, that they worked and cremated the corpses to at least cremains?

Do you accept the evidence of the Ohrdruf pyre, that it got hot enough to bend the rails and left corpses more or less whole, but renderable to cremains?

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 12:47 am
by Callafangers
HansHill wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 12:03 pmIts much harder for you to assert 800,000 from "countless" than it is for me to assert two or three orders of magnitude lower than that.
Bingo.

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:01 am
by Wetzelrad
Leif F. wrote: Mon Oct 20, 2025 6:04 pm 1) The exact measurements of the pit at the Heidefriedhof, where exactly did Irving get those from, could you please cite the exact source if you have/he gives it?
My assumption now is that he got them from visiting the cemetery himself, where the ash pit is still in-tact. The ash pit, marked 3 on a map in this flyer, matches those approximate dimensions.
https://heidefriedhof-dresden.de/wp-con ... lowres.pdf

Re: The Pyres of Dresden

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 9:08 am
by Nessie
The pyres at Dresden prove that putting wood under a pile of corpses, with metal rails separating the two, setting the wood alight, will cause the corpses to catch fire and burn to at least cremains. They can be set alight and left to burn.

So, do the so-called revisionists here deny the existence of the Dresden corpses, or claim that they cannot have burnt the corpses and that the fire just went out?