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Re: Jankiel Wiernik
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:21 pm
by pilgrimofdark
Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:41 pm
I'm not in the field of 'textual analysis', but, I have to tentatively say 'yes'.
That's entirely too funny, and you can't make this shit up!
Yeah, even if Krzepicki had an entirely different staff of adminstrative assistants than Wiernik, that just raises different problems than if there's significant overlap between the Writing Committees.
I wonder why they're each writing only a couple paragraphs at a time.
Were they literally just passing around the sheets of paper to each other? One person would add the deportation, the next person would write an account of arriving at the camp, the next would add references to chlorine poisoning, etc.
Similar to Wiernik, Krzepicki's manuscript was lengthened before being published. By who?
Donat transforms an 12-page account into 70 pages.
The conventional answer is that Krzepicki/Wiernik broke down crying for so long in between paragraphs that different people had to take "shifts" in writing the accounts down.
Re: Jankiel Wiernik
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:42 pm
by Stubble
Does it come to us through Auerbach?
Perhaps the 'writing circle' would brainstorm sessions, take notes, then compile them.
If this comes to us from the 'Warsaw library' in one of the 'metal cases' or 'milk cans', it seems likely that
we were never actually intended to see it, but, since that garbage got preserved and became a new type of 'holy scripture', now we can.
The irony, it is just so super rich and comically golden.
I
can't stop laughing

Re: Jankiel Wiernik
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:57 pm
by pilgrimofdark
Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:42 pm
Does it come to us through Auerbach?
Perhaps the 'writing circle' would brainstorm sessions, take notes, then compile them.
If this comes to us from the 'Warsaw library' in one of the 'metal cases' or 'milk cans', it seems likely that
we were never actually intended to see it, but, since that garbage got preserved and became a new type of 'holy scripture', now we can.
The irony, it is just so super rich and comically golden.
I
can't stop laughing
Of course! Ringelblum Archive, recovered in 1950.
Donat says this in the intro to Krzepicki's Expanded Edition (not disclosed as inexplicably expanded):
The leaders of the ghetto underground archives (under the historian Emanuel Ringelblum) entrusted Rachel Auerbach with the task of recording the testimony given by Krzepicki (December 1942-January 1942).
"The task of recording." She must have subcontracted it out.
Reminder that Auerbach accompanied the "13 Apostles of Treblinka" on their trip there in 1945 with the Polish investigator and surveyor who didn't know which direction north was (or did he?).
Re: Jankiel Wiernik
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:02 pm
by Stubble
The '13 Apostles' of Treblinka and the judge also 'Found no Mass Graves'.
I'm sorry, I simply can not stop laughing, this is just so insanely ridiculous, and has been 'gospel' for nigh on 80 years!
Perhaps we can pinpoint the 'diet committee', who published the 'work' and see if there is overlap in personnel with the 'underground' publishing house that brought us 'A Year in Treblinka'? A favorite of the forest jews of Poland?
Re: Jankiel Wiernik
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:37 pm
by pilgrimofdark
These are the two Krzepicki maps side-by-side. From Rachel Auerbach's Yiddish notebook on the left, and the committee-written Polish manuscript on the right.
You can see the evolution of the Campaign Tremblinka III, as dungeon master Auerbach drafts and refines the map that will be used for her newest Dungeons & Dragons RPG game night.
It's also possible these show the evolution of the construction of camp buildings from somewhere based on Polish Home Army surveillance at the time. But it could be a hallucination cooked up solely in Warsaw.
Auerbach notebooks (no map key):
https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/729025/519/
Polish collaborative manuscript (has a map key):
https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/727956/0/
Posting here in case anyone wants to compare to the early Wiernik maps, or the handwriting in the Wiernik collaborative writing project.