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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 4:41 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 7:59 pm jews disappearing, by their millions, in only a few specific camps.
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There's roberto with its "magically disappearing jew" theory again.

To be more specific roberto, your "magically disappearing jew" theory alleges that 2.145 million jews "magically disappeared" after being buried in 100 "huge mass graves" at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.

Remind us again roberto; how many jews magically disappeared after being burried in Treblinka II's F16, shown here:

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Are you now alleging that all those jews didn't actually "disappear" but rather, were magically transformed into trash?

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 4:45 pm
by Keen
Archie wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:09 pm Nessie, for examples of you doing what I claim you do, see here:

search.php?author_id=73&sr=posts
And here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=588

Re: Best case for the Holocaust.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 4:57 pm
by Nessie
It is even harder now, to understand why Archie could be a Holocaust denier/revisionist, after he has written this best case for the Holocaust;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21373#p21373

He criticised my best case for being "Thin on positive evidence", which is correct, but I explain why that is. I was surprised at how much of the "positive evidence" he appears to accept, such as the gas van documents and I was not aware Graf accepts the evidence of gassing at Natzweiler-Struthof. I have been having a debate on X with someone who accepts the evidence for the Holocaust, except deaths in gas chambers. It seems odd to accept the documentary, eyewitness and other evidence, from the Nazis, of mass shootings and euthanasia, and then not accept the same type of evidence, from the same source, for gassing. How is gassing at Natzweiler-Struthof proved, but not at Auschwitz-Birkenau?
...it will suffice to say that the Leuchter/Faurisson/Rudolf tests are in no way conclusive and are nowhere near enough to overturn the wealth of historical evidence.
Absolutely spot on. Just because they cannot work out, to their satisfaction, how the gas chambers worked, is nowhere near enough to overturn the evidence gassing happened. Overall, I would rate Archie's essay as very good. I am sure he will be delighted with that!

Re: Best case for the Holocaust.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:58 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2026 4:57 pm Just because they cannot work out, to their satisfaction, how the gas chambers worked, is nowhere near enough to overturn the evidence gassing happened.
If "gassings happened" there would be dead bodies to prove it.

No dead bodies = no gassings = no mass murder = no holocaust.

Here is the best case for the fraudulently alleged Treblinka holocaust:

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The number of corpses you see is equal to the number of jews who were gassed at Treblinka II.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 7:32 am
by Nessie
Here we go again,

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21377#p21377
Nessie apparently does not understand the concept of arguing a "devil's advocate" position. No theory of mind!
I just said about you, that did such a good job playing devil's advocate, with your best case for the Holocaust, that it is hard to believe you can be a Holocaust revisionist/denier.

Archie has used the poisoning of the well fallacy, again. Rather than claim I have no "theory of mind" with no evidence of that, whilst posting evidence that shows I do, Archie should learn to understand fallacies and logic. I can evidence he does not understand them, which is why he repeatedly uses and relies upon them.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 7:53 am
by Nessie
Callafangers ties himself into a knot.

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21380#p21380
Here is the point: wherever the corpses for the Battle of Waterloo are buried, dissolved, etc.; the modern assertion is that they ended up at X location(s). If there are hundreds more such corpses found at Y location(s), this previous assertion has been falsified (at least, in part).
That is correct. If a battle is claimed to have had X casualties and nothing like that number can be found where they were supposed to have been buried, then X is falsified and needs revising. In the same way, if X gassing victims cannot be found buried next to where they were supposedly gassed and buried, then X has been falsified and needs revising.
The claim that 'millions of Jews are missing' has never been falsifiable as the demographic data alone is inadequate for a deductive approach to be taken, here.
He now tries to excuse himself from his inability to falsify millions of missing Jews, who he believes were not murdered.
Moreover, the sources of much of this data are suspect and have remained closed-off to intense scrutiny (overtly/undeniably so in the case of the 'Iron Curtain'). The lack of validation for 'missing Jews', therefore, extends far beyond even just the matter of falsifiability. It has never stood-up to begin with (i.e. not even 'verification').
He blames the 'Iron Curtain', and ignores the demographic evidence from the war. The Nazis recorded huge drops in the Jewish population. The countries they occupied or were aligned to, also recorded huge drops in their Jewish population. Or crutically, in the case of Denmark, whilst they recorded a huge drop, the evidence is there as to where those Jews ended up, in Sweden. It is odd that one country can trace its Jews after they left the country, whereas no other country can. It is odd that when Jews left a country, but not under arrest by the Nazis, they can be traced, to the UK, or Palestine, or into the Soviet Union. But when they left under arrest by the Nazis, millions disappeared. Why does every country in Europe have to lie about missing Jews, but Denmark gets a pass and it does not have to be part of the conspiracy? Another country with a pass is Finland, that, with a few individual exceptions, did not allow their Jewish citizens to be arrested. How do the Fins get to be not part of the big lie? What persuaded the French to lie, but also be able to say that they managed to prevent many of their Jews from being arrested? Why would the Dutch agree to the biggest lie of them all, and be the most cooperative of countries and have the highest death rate? Do you not think the Dutch would not prefer to be like the Danes and have their Jews escape across to the UK?

Millions of missing Jews, could be falsified by providing evidence of the huge bureaucratic and logistic task of accommodating them, in 1944. Which Nazi department was responsible? Which Nazis ran it? Where were the camps and ghettos and what was their populations? It is a blatant lie that millions of missing Jews is not falsifiable. To argue as much, is an excuse for not being able to falsify the claim.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:48 pm
by Keen
Nesserto wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 7:53 am But when they left under arrest by the Nazis, millions disappeared.
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"Magically disappeared" huh Nesserto?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nesserto:
The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

I can point to them in the ground.
Only in a mentally ill persons mind can 2.145 million jews magically disappear while at the same time their remains can lie in 100 "huge mass graves" that the mentally ill person claims he can "point to in the ground."

Oh, wait a minnute roberto, I found the "millions of missing jews":

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And here's 250,000 more roberta:

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Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:34 am
by Nessie
Stubble claims that there is no evidence;

viewtopic.php?p=21436#p21436
Dude, you can't even tell me who is missing! 80+ years after the fact!

All you have is nebulous statistical cohorts based off of revised population estimates from the interwar and post war periods.

You haven't got shit either. You have no grave space, no bodies, no murder weapon, no order, nothing, zilch, zero, nada, fuck all.

You just take it on faith.
None of that is true. Yad Vashem, Bad Arolsen and national archives have lists of names of the missing, presumed killed.

Those lists come from Nazi and national sources, such as the Dutch Jews arrested and transported to Sobibor, or the Berlin Jews sent to Riga. There are fewer such lists for Eastern Jews, but national archives have details of village, town and city records of how many Jews lived there, and now many were left at the end of the war, which was often none. We many never know their names, but we know the Jews of specific places were arrested and disappeared.

It is a lie to claim there is no grave space, GPR, archaeological surveys and eyewitnesses evidence mass graves. I say Stubble is lying because he knows about the evidence, he just disputes it. There is also corroborating evidence for the bodies, murder weapon, orders etc. For Stubble to suggest historians take the Holocaust on faith, is a deflection from so-called revisionists taking mass survival on faith.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:48 am
by Nessie
Callafangers is determined to rely on the logical fallacy of argument from incredulity;

viewtopic.php?p=21442#p21442
We can determine a reasonable, plausible, or even possible range at most of these alleged mega mass grave sites. There is no interpretation which can support even 10% of the corpses allegedly there at any of the AR camps, despite numerous excavations which have aligned time-after-time with revisionist interpretations of only scattered remains.

There is a reason why Muehlenkamp clocked out and why no exterminationist has since been able to even feign a compelling presentation. Time and time again, exterminationists fall flat on their faces on all matters of scientific interpretation.
He cannot work out, from the archaeological survey evidence, how it was possible for hundreds of thousands of corpses to have been buried and cremated at the AR camps. He is not convinced by "exterminationist" interpretations. Therefore, he illogically concludes that means there were no mass graves and cremations of hundreds of thousands of corpses.

Callafangers is super confident of his ability to understand the archaeological evidence and survey finds at the AR camps correctly, despite his complete lack of training. Since he believes he must be correct and the experts must be wrong, he is utterly convinced there is insufficient grave space and cremated remains, to account for hundreds of thousands being killed and cremated at the camps.

The problems with Callafangers thinking is that he is more likely to be wrong, than the archaeological experts and their conclusion is backed up by non-archaeological evidence. Eyewitnesses, documents and circumstantial evidence around the operation of AR prove mass transports arriving, mass killings, theft of property, few people leaving the camp and the burials and cremations.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:24 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:34 am GPR, archaeological surveys and eyewitnesses evidence mass graves... There is also corroborating evidence for the bodies
A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 100 alleged graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)

http://thisisaboutscience.com/
What is roberta waiting for?

What is she so afraid of?

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:27 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 7:48 am hundreds of thousands of corpses to have been buried and cremated at the AR camps.
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Re: Falsification

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 12:37 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:55 pm Forensic and archaeological evidence can be falsified by evidence its results are wrong. For example, Richard Krege's TII GPR survey
Which found no mass graves under the Treblinka II monument, like this photo corroborates:

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Nessie wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:55 pm A photo can be falsified... It could also be shown to not be what it is claimed to be
Like this photo here shows:

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And like this photo here shows:

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And like this photo here shows:

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Re: Falsification

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:15 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:55 pm How can history be falsified?
Here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jl2w3xYFHQ

Re: Falsification

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:18 am
by Keen
Poor roberto, his desperation is really showing lately, isn't it?

I wonder if he has stopped taking his meds???

Here's roberto, with his magic glasses on, looking at all the "evidence" of "huge mass graves"

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No, roberto, there are other mentally ill people who "see it" too.

Re: Comments on other threads.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:42 pm
by Keen
Nesserto:
Everything about the Holocaust can be subjected to the falsification principle. A claim about a location having a mass grave can be tested with archaeological and geophysical surveys and if nothing is found, as Richard Krege claimed at TII, then mass graves have been falsified. If the 2011 geophysical survey had also reported finding no pits, especially in the parts of the camp witnesses said pits had been dug to bury the corpses, mass graves would have been falsified.
The investigation carried out prior to the building of the Treblinka II monument found no mass graves in the area that Wiernik and Stangle alleged mass graves to be, thus falsifying their nonsensical allegations and proving that the fraudulently alleged Treblinka holocaust was / is a big-lie

Krege reported, after his geophysical survey, of finding no pits or human remains in the area that Wiernik and Stangle alleged mass graves to be, thus falsifying their nonsensical allegations and proving that the fraudulently alleged Treblinka holocaust was / is a big-lie.

Colls on the other hand, did not look where Wiernik and Stangle alleged mass graves to be, because she knew thier nonsensical big-lies had already been falsified by Krege. So she looked in areas where non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. were dug and other post war diggings and bombings were alleged to have occurred, and even, fraudulently, in a nearby Christian cemetary. And even with that, she only reported "probable burial / cremation pits" and "possible grave sites" within Treblinka II's boundary, thereby not proving the existence of so-much-as a sinlge mass grave or even an iota of human remains. In fact, she even, stupidly, falsified one of her fraudulently alleged "huge mass grave" allegations by documenting the empty (except for trash and rocks) "huge mass grave" F16:

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Nesserto:
Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.
Note that these are alleged filled in pits, not actual pits. The only actual "pits" are the shallow depressions labeled F1, F9 and F16 which are fruadulently alleged to be "posible grave sites" that have never been proven to contain, or ever contain, so much as an iota of human remains.

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