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Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 4:13 am
by InuYasha
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 12:10 am Here is what I found in regard to this even of no GCs at Majdanek
Yes, this is the same excerpt from the 1950 Berlin court ruling that is linked above. The original German text also states that there were apparently no gas chambers in Majdanek. Apparently, the narrative was changed at some point between the Berlin and Dusseldorf trials.

It is not surprising, since in the 1950s, instead of the current idea of ​​death camps in Poland, there was another: that all camps, including those in Germany and Austria, were death camps. Under such conditions, it was possible to afford a "non-gas" Majdanek. Everything changed after Martin Broschat's statement in 1960, so the first mentions of a GC in Majdanek probably date back to the period between 1960 and 1981.

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:54 am
by Booze
InuYasha wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:29 am
Booze wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 8:58 pm InuYasha please give your source
The documents themselves from the Düsseldorf regional courts and the ruling of June 30, 1981 can be found on a German legal website, it should be on one of the pages there:
https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/r ... 0Ks%201/75

The exact mention that there were no gas chambers in Majdanek is contained in point 6 of the indictment of Berlin land court (1950, during first Sobibor trial):
https://junsv.nl/seiten?tx_junsv_pi2%5B ... ca6fbbad6d

The original definition states:
"6. Transport aus Maidanek.

Einmal kam ein Transport jüdischer Häftlinge in einer Stärke von ungefähr 15000 Mann aus dem Lager Maidanek, das keine Vergasungsanlage besass, zum Vergasen an.".

It can be translated as:
"6. Transport from Maidanek.

On one occasion, a transport of Jewish prisoners, approximately 15,000 strong, arrived from the Maidanek camp, which had no gassing facility, to be gassed."

It turns out that, according to the original version, there were no gas chambers in Majdanek.

At what point did the Zionists and exterminationists include the gassings in Majdanek in the Holocaust narrative?
Thx
What I'm asking is what source (book or other) led you to this or is this your original research?

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:12 am
by InuYasha
Booze wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:54 am
InuYasha wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:29 am
Booze wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 8:58 pm InuYasha please give your source
The documents themselves from the Düsseldorf regional courts and the ruling of June 30, 1981 can be found on a German legal website, it should be on one of the pages there:
https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/r ... 0Ks%201/75

The exact mention that there were no gas chambers in Majdanek is contained in point 6 of the indictment of Berlin land court (1950, during first Sobibor trial):
https://junsv.nl/seiten?tx_junsv_pi2%5B ... ca6fbbad6d

The original definition states:
"6. Transport aus Maidanek.

Einmal kam ein Transport jüdischer Häftlinge in einer Stärke von ungefähr 15000 Mann aus dem Lager Maidanek, das keine Vergasungsanlage besass, zum Vergasen an.".

It can be translated as:
"6. Transport from Maidanek.

On one occasion, a transport of Jewish prisoners, approximately 15,000 strong, arrived from the Maidanek camp, which had no gassing facility, to be gassed."

It turns out that, according to the original version, there were no gas chambers in Majdanek.

At what point did the Zionists and exterminationists include the gassings in Majdanek in the Holocaust narrative?
Thx
What I'm asking is what source (book or other) led you to this or is this your original research?
I first saw this information in a book about Sobibor by Jurgen Graf, Thomas Kues and Carlo Mattogno. Later I became interested in such an obvious contradiction in the whole "great hoax" and decided to find archival documents of German courts in order to refer to the conclusions of the "prosecutors" themselves, and not to the revisionists, since the exterminationists can say that the information was taken selectively by the revisionists. As I expected, the German courts actually admitted in 1950 that de facto there were no gas chambers in Majdanek.

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:05 pm
by Booze
InuYasha wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:12 am I first saw this information in a book about Sobibor by Jurgen Graf, Thomas Kues and Carlo Mattogno. Later I became interested in such an obvious contradiction in the whole "great hoax" and decided to find archival documents of German courts in order to refer to the conclusions of the "prosecutors" themselves, and not to the revisionists, since the exterminationists can say that the information was taken selectively by the revisionists. As I expected, the German courts actually admitted in 1950 that de facto there were no gas chambers in Majdanek.
Thx for your reply, I had a curiosity about how that came about.
Ideally the document itself and an accompanying translation would be included in their book or in German Rudolph's Holocaust Encyclopedia.
I say that because I do agree that exterminations will just simply claim it to be false, and I do agree that it can provide a very powerful argument for revisionists.

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 2:15 am
by Fred Ziffel
Here is an article of the open house at the Majdanek newer cremation facility just after liberation. Quite a turnout.

Remember: The museum on their own website state gassings ended in early Sept 1943, and this facility did not go into service until January 1944

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 2:21 am
by Fred Ziffel
This looks pretty staged for show and tell to me,
I do not doubt those are human remains, note how the remains cleanly upward and inwards in the first photo
The ovens would not be able to operate with remains shoveled in there like this and with this quantity
Urns for mass gas'n burn?

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 2:27 am
by Fred Ziffel
Do you think that a body in this location in the cremation facility would burn that much in a building fire fueled by wood only?
I speculate that the Soviets set the fire to the cremation facility for propaganda reasons

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:39 am
by Fred Ziffel
The following is just a minor subject. However, it demonstrates just how slimy these museums can be when selling the extermination narrative.

Location of photos for reference:
(Majdanek B43 north wall, extreme right, in the corner)

The side-by-side photo depicting a then and a fairly recent now scene. The photo on the left is the building that was a camp hospital for inmates in 1944 as indicated by the sign I circled for your ease of finding. The photo on the left is the same building taken in 2015. I circled the same window.

If you were someone that believed in the Holobunga and took a tour of the camp, and saw that building, you would never know the role of that building when the Germans occupied Majdanek. Most likely, you would not give that building a second look. No shame in that even for those here who know a little something about this camp.

If I were to say to a believer of the Holobunga or show them the building without the sign, that the Germans tried to take care of inmates in this building since it was a hospital, The believer may say… “A hospital in a “Death Camp?” “You are off your rocker!!” I would be called a Holocaust Denier or a Nazi to have the gall to state such things?

It is rather sick that the museum does not label that building as a hospital to give an accurate narrative of what was going on inside this camp and in this building. If the old sign wore out, they could replace it with a new replica. They intentionally elect not to. Perhaps if someone saw this sign on the building, would they begin to have unpure thoughts of why a would there be a hospital in a death camp? It took me a few years looking at photos to finally realize this tidbit.

Same reason the Majdanek Museum does not state anywhere the new cremation facility did not go into service until January 1944, and that gassings at this camp stopped in early September 1943. They seemly let the visitor see the gas chambers first to condition their emotional state and then bring the conditioning to a climax with the combination of gas chambers and crematoria in the tour.

I estimate that 99.9999% of the visitors to Majdanek even if they saw the red cross sign on the building in question, would think nothing of it and continue with their sorrow tour.

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:08 pm
by Wahrheitssucher
Fred Ziffel wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:39 am The following is just a minor subject. However, it demonstrates just how slimy these museums can be when selling the extermination narrative.

Location of photos for reference:
(Majdanek B43 north wall, extreme right, in the corner)

The side-by-side photo depicting a then and a fairly recent now scene. The photo on the left is the building that was a camp hospital for inmates in 1944 as indicated by the sign I circled for your ease of finding. The photo on the left is the same building taken in 2015. I circled the same window.

If you were someone that believed in the Holobunga and took a tour of the camp, and saw that building, you would never know the role of that building when the Germans occupied Majdanek. Most likely, you would not give that building a second look. No shame in that even for those here who know a little something about this camp.

If I were to say to a believer of the Holobunga or show them the building without the sign, that the Germans tried to take care of inmates in this building since it was a hospital, The believer may say… “A hospital in a “Death Camp?” “You are off your rocker!!” I would be called a Holocaust Denier or a Nazi to have the gall to state such things?

It is rather sick that the museum does not label that building as a hospital to give an accurate narrative of what was going on inside this camp and in this building. If the old sign wore out, they could replace it with a new replica. They intentionally elect not to. Perhaps if someone saw this sign on the building, would they begin to have unpure thoughts of why a would there be a hospital in a death camp? It took me a few years looking at photos to finally realize this tidbit.

Same reason the Majdanek Museum does not state anywhere the new cremation facility did not go into service until January 1944, and that gassings at this camp stopped in early September 1943. They seemly let the visitor see the gas chambers first to condition their emotional state and then bring the conditioning to a climax with the combination of gas chambers and crematoria in the tour.

I estimate that 99.9999% of the visitors to Majdanek even if they saw the red cross sign on the building in question, would think nothing of it and continue with their sorrow tour.
Excellent!

Thanks for this. :)

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:45 am
by Fred Ziffel
On June 3, 2025, I posted a brainstorm of all the reasons B1 could not be a Zyklon B gas chamber. I added one more slide.

I forgot Germar Rudolf's argument that a lower temperature will slow the rate of outgassing and, that Poland is a cold place where that can conceivably take place.

Recall there is no heater in the B1 Chamber to warm the pellets so they would use "A" Chamber that has a heater to heat pellets, and there is no blue staining on the walls and ceiling despite the existence of a ceiling hole.
Yes, HCN will outgas in cold weather but at a slower rate.

Slides attached:
-my argument
-Just a window with some frost near "A" Chamber from same video

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:51 am
by Fred Ziffel
As you can all recall my posting about the missing doorway at Majdanek B42 woman's shower. I have a very interesting video on an unknown by me reconstruction of B42. It is a 9:15 video of the reconstruction of the building.

I now know the reason of the disappearance of the doorway.
If you have any interest in Majdanek, you will find this interesting.
More to come, but for now this shall be posted
I have a PDF of this reconstruction with photos, Text in Polish though

Link:

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:31 am
by Fred Ziffel
More from construction video in last post

Site Location: Majdanek B42, Woman’s Bath and Disinfection building restoration
Video: Video was done by the Polish contractor as sort of an advertisement
Date: This construction seemingly done in 2014
Contractor: Ekspertyzy of Poland

The contractor did a very good job on this project. Seemingly, due to these blue numbered tags every board, plank, beam and panel were numbered to make sure each piece was reinstalled back exactly where they were after worked on. Obviously, some of the pieces were discarded because of wood rot, termites, and age (70 years old). Therefore, a new piece was installed at those points.

What I like is unlike the museum, the contractor did not care where they pointed the cameras.

As some of you know, I posted something about the doorway or actual entrance pointed out seemingly disappeared. Eric Hunt and Father Mawdsley in their videos made the argument that incoming inmates entered from the north and processed away from the alleged gas chambers. This video, and the PDF that comes with the construction project gives more data to make more arguments that the B42 entrance was purposely covered up.

My argument (See attached)
You can see in the attached, at the time of construction, one can see that all the panels were replace by new lumber. You can see the bright white color characteristics of new lumber material before it was stained. You can also see one plank was replace on the right side, and the former window of the woman’s registration room has this new lumber. You can also see new lumber on the floor left side. Middle panels were replaced in 2014.

Question:
What is the reason the middle panel was replace and not the other panels on the right and left side? They are located next to each other and therefore, there should be no more wood rot or reason to replace the middle panel. See last photo of the outside before restoration.

The contractor and museum made sure all the beams etc. got back to their exact spot and took real pains to restore and reuse the original piece. Watch video. However, seemingly no pains to save this panels that indicated the actual entrance indicated that can prove delousing process direction at B42 and B41.

Boarded up door and window.
The window’s existence on the March 31, 1942, drawing is indicated therefore the drawing has credibility for being accurate. See drawing door and window symbol indicated on the attached.

I do not think the construction company was knowingly in on the deception, they just fulfilled the terms of the contract with the Majdanek State Museum. Tis the museum staff who are guilty of this deception to preserve the ruse.

more photos after this post

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:33 am
by Fred Ziffel
Here are indicators of the existence of the door and window

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:36 am
by Fred Ziffel
Here you can see the B42 Woman's registration window during reconstruction
Here is what happens to wood as it ages

Re: Majdanek this and that

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:02 am
by Booze
This photo is from the Illustrated London News on 10-14-1944, showing a Russian(?) on the
roof of an alleged gas chamber at Majdanek.
I suspect this was a post war construction which was later abandoned as part of the story.
Does anyone have any further information?
Can we pinpoint the location of the building he is standing on, by virtue of what is in the background?
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