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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, almost 1/4 of the 'gen z' cohort 'believes the holocaust as taught is exaggerated or distorted'.

Looks like this 1-5% being discussed is on top of that.

The irony for the orthodoxy is that the more instruction is given, the worse the numbers get. Boomers for example don't even know where the camps were, but, by golly gee, they know dem nazis gassed 6,000,000's of dem joos.

Zoomers on the other hand statistically have more education shovelled at them and the number who question the figure is significantly higher.

/shrug

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:56 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:28 pm …Most Muslims are very hostile to any Holocaust propaganda because they dislike the "state" of Israel and its cruel treatment of their Palestinian brothers and sisters, but they know nothing about the Holocaust narrative and its debunking. They're against the Holohoax on principle, not on the basis of well-informed knowledge.

I don’t think that is correct, EofZ.
That sounds like a viewpoint that has been subconsciously ‘coloured’ by zionist, islamaphobic propaganda.

To give just one example Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
He is a devout Muslim.
He was also the former President of Iran

Not only did he understand what was false about the mythology but he skillfully parried questions from outraged, zionist (or zionist-duped) western journalists about it.

Four months after he became President of Iran, in December 2005 he was quoted as saying he did not believe that 6 million Jews had died at the hands of the Nazis, and that the mass-gassing of the Jews had been a ‘myth’.

In the following year, he held a ‘Holocaust cartoon contest’in Tehran.

Then, in December 2006, he initiated a conference to be hosted in Tehran under the title ‘Review of the Holocaust: a global vision’.

The event was attended by 67 participants from 30 countries, and included expert holyH revisionists Robert Faurisson and Frederick Toben, Michele Renouf and anti-zionist Jewish rabbis (belonging to the Neturei Karta jewish group)

Those weren't the actions and statements of a Muslim who “knows nothing about the Holocaust narrative and its debunking”.

A single Muslim is not "most Muslims" (see my comment) and the president of Iran is not the average Muslim who lives in a Western country. Moreover, I haven't seen anything showing that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was well-learned about the Holocaust (orthodox narrative and/or its refutation). Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems that he and the other Iranian leaders were more eager to make the thing that would piss Israel off the most than to hold a real academic conference. The French revisionist Vincent Reynouard was at the Tehran conference of 2006 and he met some Iranian officials when he was there. He talked about it in a recent video in which he deplored that the Iranians with whom he spoke at that time were patently very ignorant of the whole topic.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:28 pm They're against the Holohoax on principle, not on the basis of well-informed knowledge.

You don't need to worry so much about this. The average person's beliefs are not well-informed. Have you ever come across a layperson that can defend their beliefs in the Holocaust? No, they resort to some slogans like "most documented event" or "Germany admits to it" and then immediately flee from argument. Just yesterday I was instantly blocked by someone who thought a popular Eisenhower quote proved the Holocaust.

Likewise, the average non-believer is not up to the task of articulating what for example "the red cross letter" is or means, but they understand it supports their belief. This is fine as long as they aren't making serious misstatements of fact. We as revisionists should seek to inform and persuade people but not require them to waste their time becoming experts in this tremendously complicated subject.

As for "principle", the reverse is more true. This can't be exaggerated. Jews believe in the narrative because of ethnoreligious tribalism, almost without fail. Jews also deny immoral acts by other Jews for the same reason. This doesn't necessarily weigh on the truth.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:16 pm

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:56 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:28 pm …Most Muslims are very hostile to any Holocaust propaganda because they dislike the "state" of Israel and its cruel treatment of their Palestinian brothers and sisters, but they know nothing about the Holocaust narrative and its debunking. They're against the Holohoax on principle, not on the basis of well-informed knowledge.

I don’t think that is correct, EofZ.
That sounds like a viewpoint that has been subconsciously ‘coloured’ by zionist, islamaphobic propaganda.

To give just one example Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
He is a devout Muslim.
He was also the former President of Iran

Not only did he understand what was false about the mythology but he skillfully parried questions from outraged, zionist (or zionist-duped) western journalists about it.

Four months after he became President of Iran, in December 2005 he was quoted as saying he did not believe that 6 million Jews had died at the hands of the Nazis, and that the mass-gassing of the Jews had been a ‘myth’.

In the following year, he held a ‘Holocaust cartoon contest’in Tehran.

Then, in December 2006, he initiated a conference to be hosted in Tehran under the title ‘Review of the Holocaust: a global vision’.

The event was attended by 67 participants from 30 countries, and included expert holyH revisionists Robert Faurisson and Frederick Toben, Michele Renouf and anti-zionist Jewish rabbis (belonging to the Neturei Karta jewish group)

Those weren't the actions and statements of a Muslim who “knows nothing about the Holocaust narrative and its debunking”.

A single Muslim is not "most Muslims"

That is to state the obvious.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:16 pm…and the president of Iran is not the average Muslim who lives in a Western country.

Again, you are just stating the obvious.

If your position is correct, why do you need to state the obvious as if these are points of disagreement, when they are not?

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:16 pm Moreover, I haven't seen anything showing that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was well-learned about the Holocaust (orthodox narrative and/or its refutation).

Have you looked?
Have you watched any videos of him talking about it?
Or are you arguing from ignorance and subliminal prejudice?

I again suggest that the whole of western society has been subjected to decades of subliminal and overt zionist propaganda painting ALL Muslims as uncivilised, violent, unreasonable, hateful primitives. Are you aware that we all have been exposed to such conditioning?
Do you agree that if anyone isn’t aware of that, then they will almost certainly be an unwitting victim of it?

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:16 pmPerhaps I'm wrong, but it seems that he and the other Iranian leaders were more eager to make the thing that would piss Israel off the most than to hold a real academic conference.

I think you are wrong. And illogically so.
I suggest it is obvious that someone would need a basic awareness of two things to arrange an international conference:
1.) that certain aspects of the official narrative are deeply flawed and even intentionally false;
2.) that there are experts with credible research and EVIDENCE that refute certain, specific, false aspects of that narrative.

I don’t understand why anyone would want to disregard that in order to assert that it wasn’t a “real” conference, was only motivated to “piss off” the zionist invaders of Palestine and that “most Muslims know nothing about the Holocaust narrative and its debunking”.
The only reason that comes to mind is that it is because they are holding an unevidenced belief based in subliminal islamaphobic prejudice.

Do you know many Muslims?
Have you discussed the holyH with any Muslims?
How many Muslims Have you discussed this with?
Have you done or seen any research on how knowledgeable Buddhists, Hindus, Christians and Jains are on knowledge of holyH revision compared to Muslims?
If not, why pick out just Muslims?

Ahmadenijad referred to the holyH as a “myth” and the mass-gassing allegation as a “lie” in public statements.
What other world leader has had the courage to express that TRUTH that we all here have recognised?
None!
None ever has!
That took some courage of his convictions, do you agree?

And as an intelligent, world leader who follows a religious belief-system that requires him to be decent, honest and moral, he must have had some knowledge of the specific inconsistencies, illogicalities and deceits to make those statements.
I don’t understand why you would want to minimise all that… unless you have some Islamaphobic prejudice.

So… here are some questions to help see if you are perhaps unconsciously harbouring zionist conditioning:

Q1. How do you arrive at the view the Iranian conference wasn’t a “real academic conference”?
Are you at all familiar with what was discussed there?
What do you think you are basing your opinion on?

Q2. What actual evidence or research are you basing your negative view of “most muslims” and their knowledge of holyH debunking, upon?

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:16 pm The French revisionist Vincent Reynouard was at the Tehran conference of 2006 and he met some Iranian officials when he was there. He talked about it in a recent video in which he deplored that the Iranians with whom he spoke at that time were patently very ignorant of the whole topic.

Q3. Why didn’t you apply here your own logic, and argue “some Iranian officials is not "most Muslims"”?

Q4. Have you heard of Ahmed Rami?
He is a Muslim.
He is a Moroccan-Swedish writer, political activist and extremely knowledgeable Holocaust revisionist.
He is also the founder of the radio station that he called ‘Radio Islam’ which promoted to other Muslims the factual info refuting the false aspects of the holyH. He went to prison for 6 months for doing that!!!
He was a featured speaker at the annual conference of the Institute for Historical Review in 1992.
It was he who invited Robert Faurisson to Sweden in 1992 to give talks and he interviewed him in two Radio Islam broadcasts.

Now, are you going to argue with another obvious statement, that these two, named, verifiable muslims — who have demonstrated they have done some research, made themself knowledgeable and then courageously sought to publicly inform others and raise awareness — are not "most Muslims"?

If so, please explain how many named, verifiable examples you require before you will question the accuracy of your current position.

Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:07 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but, almost 1/4 of the 'gen z' cohort 'believes the holocaust as taught is exaggerated or distorted'.

Looks like this 1-5% being discussed is on top of that.

The irony for the orthodoxy is that the more instruction is given, the worse the numbers get. Boomers for example don't even know where the camps were, but, by golly gee, they know dem nazis gassed 6,000,000's of dem joos.

Zoomers on the other hand statistically have more education shovelled at them and the number who question the figure is significantly higher.

/shrug

+1 Mr Stubble, something else I have always thrown around the 'ol noggin is that, modern Holocaustianity has it's approach completely backwards. As you rightly mentioned the Boomers fell hook, line and sinker for the propaganda, without knowing much about it at all. I posit that, that is at least partly because it was wrapped in a pill pocket of Nationalism, Patriotism and good ol' fashioned chest thumpin'.

Decoupling the Holocaust from Nationalism / Patriotism / American Pride and tethering it to modern Liberalism / egalitarianism / universalism is an interesting strategy but imo ultimately very foolish for the obvious reasons.

While I can't disagree, the UN decided that the Holy H had to be tied to globalism as a hack for unfettered endless illegal immigration to western countries.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:35 am I don’t think that is correct, EofZ.
That sounds like a viewpoint that has been subconsciously ‘coloured’ by zionist, islamaphobic propaganda.

Come on. Ahmadinejad couldn't even properly counter the gross trick of a journalist showing him a photo of typhus victims in a German concentration camp supposed to prove the Holocaust and he just deplored that there is too much focus on the death of Jews during WWII. And his main counterarguments to Holocaust-related outraged questions were that the Zionist censorship of Holocaust revisionism is fishy and that "the Palestinian people had no role to play in the Holocaust" (which is an antirevisionist/exterminationist statement). And I would also not overrate his courage regarding his public statements on the Holocaust because anti-Zionist provocative statements seem like a good way to get elected or re-elected in Iran. You can't compare the electorate in a deeply anti-Zionist country like Iran and the electorate in a [Jew-owned] Western country like the United States, and so you can't compare either what is political expediency and what is political suicide under each of the 2 types of regime.







And to answer your question, yes, I know many Muslims in the real world. There are tons of them in Europe. Honestly, most of them are unpleasant nearly-illiterate brutes. One of the most repellent army of occupation ever seen in Europe if I'm asked.

Conclusion: I think that your viewpoint has been subconsciously coloured by your own anti-Zionist feelings (which I share with you). But you don't need to revere Muslims because many of them are the enemies of your enemies. Often, the enemy of your enemies is just another one of your enemies or neither a friend nor a foe of yours.

Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 3:03 pm While I can't disagree, the UN decided that the Holy H had to be tied to globalism as a hack for unfettered endless illegal immigration to western countries.

That's was inevitable and it was from day one. If "the religion of race" was synonymous with mass murder and ultra evilness in general (see the foreword written by the Zionist British politician Lord Wedgwood below), then the mere defense of your own national & racial interests was doomed and the subsequent dissolution of your national borders and distinct nation & race was not very far.




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100% agree. Just pointing out that there is UN Policy White Paper that states the Holocaust is to be used to promote open boarders and globalism.

This dovetails with 'free trade' and the domination of industry and erosion of sovereignty as well as exploitation of cheap labor and tighter controls on employment.

Add to that the importation of these coolies and you are left with quite the mix, and on paper, you can make things look a-ok while Americans tread mill themselves to death as simple wage slaves, owning nothing, and never happy...

To quote Ecclesiastes, nothing is new under the sun.

Europe a Nation, Oswald Mosley



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Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:03 am 100% agree. Just pointing out that there is UN Policy White Paper that states the Holocaust is to be used to promote open boarders and globalism.

This dovetails with 'free trade' and the domination of industry and erosion of sovereignty as well as exploitation of cheap labor and tighter controls on employment.

Add to that the importation of these coolies and you are left with quite the mix, and on paper, you can make things look a-ok while Americans tread mill themselves to death as simple wage slaves, owning nothing, and never happy...

To quote Ecclesiastes, nothing is new under the sun.

Is this the UN policy paper you're talking about?




https://postimg.cc/F1sVRjHm

IMO, it indeed dovetails with 'free trade' and cheap labor but is above all about getting rid of Jewry's one and only rival for world domination (Tikkun olam ethnic cleansing through heavily promoted racial dilution and artificially undermined birth rates) - the White Man.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:35 am I don’t think that is correct, EofZ.
That sounds like a viewpoint that has been subconsciously ‘coloured’ by zionist, islamaphobic propaganda.

Come on. Ahmadinejad couldn't even properly counter the gross trick of a journalist showing him a photo of typhus victims in a German concentration camp supposed to prove the Holocaust

I thought that was a good counter. She asked him that question BECAUSE he had said the whole mass-gassing, jew-genocide narrative is A LIE!
She asked him if that photo of dead bodies was a lie.
That question only showed her ignorance.
His choice was how to reply to a stupid, ignorant brain-washed journalist and still serve his leadership and political role.
He honestly replied: “no that photo is not a lie”. And he answered her in a friendly, well-meaning, and informative way trying to help her out of her ignorance by then preceding to give her the wider picture of which there can be no debate! Viz. that over 60 million were killed so why do we go on and on about a small proportion of it.
Full credit to him for that kind, wise reply.

It would have served no purpose to go any deeper into why it was a question from ignorance.
He’s a politician not a historian.
PLUS he was a world leader representing his country who therefore has to be tactful and diplomatic.
He was NOT there being interviewed to promote holocaust revisionism.
You are holding him to a standard that is not appropriate to his role there. He was not giving an interview to justify the conference but to show Iran in the best light.

The question was a trick question to try to alienate American viewers from him and to try and discredit him.
Do you agree?
When you understand that then I think we must agree he handled it really well!

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am…and he just deplored that there is too much focus on the death of Jews during WWII.

Yeah. And he calmly said he felt sorry for ALL the +60 million who were killed, including Jews. Which was a clever and cool response. He gave the stupid woman no way to bludgeon him with either the ‘anti-semite’ or the holyH cudgel, as she couldn’t argue against that.

This is the quote from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech during the annual Quds Day rally on September 18, 2009, delivered to worshippers at Tehran University (where he led Friday prayers) that the TV journalist was referring to:

«به ادعای آنها چند میلیون یهودی در کوره‌های آدم‌سوزی سوخته شدند و تلاش آنها این بود که این موضوع را جا بیندازند و مظلومیت قوم یهود را با دروغ و طراحی پیچیده تبلیغاتی و عملیات روانی تبلیغ کنند و بگویند که آنها پس از آن نیازمند دولت و سرزمین مستقل هستند و آن‌قدر قوی کار کردند که بسیاری از سیاستمداران و متفکران جهان هم فریب خوردند. بهانه برای ایجاد رژیم صهیونیستی دروغ است، دروغی که بر پایه یک ادعای اثبات‌نشده و افسانه‌ای بنا شده است. اگر این ادعا درست بود، بهترین جا برای ایجاد رژیم صهیونیستی همان سرزمین‌های آلمان و اتریش بود.»

"According to their claim, several million Jews were burned in crematoria, and their effort was to establish this issue and propagate the victimhood of the Jewish people through lies, complex propaganda designs, and psychological operations, saying that afterward they needed an independent government and land. They worked so strongly that many politicians and thinkers around the world were also deceived. The pretext for the creation of the Zionist regime is false, a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim.

You won’t get this, the full quote in any western news media. They remove all the words I have highlighted.

I invite you now to reanalyse it, putting aside any anti-muslim prejudice and to acknowledge the factual aspect of what he said.
I also suggest that it is not logical (or reasonable) to conclude he knows nothing more in any detail.
And I again remind you of the courageous example of the muslim Ahmad Rami and his ‘Radio Islam’ website and radio broadcasts. Take a look at his website (which is in multiple languages). Its a phenomenal amount of research, analysis and insight:
https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/svenska/svensk.htm

Here is what he has on just revisionism:
https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/engli ... vision.htm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am And his main counterarguments to Holocaust-related outraged questions were that the Zionist censorship of Holocaust revisionism is fishy and that "the Palestinian people had no role to play in the Holocaust"...

Yeah! Good answer! So As above.
What he says to stupid journalists who are serving zionist-controlled news-networks is NOT representative of how much he actually knows about what is false.
He said to Iranians at the University that several million jews cremated is a lie. That implies he knows the details about crematoria burning times per body, and the impossibility of the alleged open-air pyres with no fuel and no mass-graves.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am And I would also not overrate his courage regarding his public statements on the Holocaust because anti-Zionist provocative statements seem like a good way to get elected or re-elected in Iran.

I think you won’t give him credit because you have a zionist-induced prejudice against ALL muslims.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am
And to answer your question, yes, I know many Muslims in the real world.

In what capacity? And how well do you ‘know’ them?
Do you have ANY friends in the work place or as fellow parents of school-children, etc?

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am There are tons of them in Europe.

Yeah, the majority of those brought in from under-developed countries by zionist organisations with the self-confessed dual aim to i.) destroy national identities, destabilise society, create division and conflict AND ii.) to create a multi-cultural miscegenation soup where only Ashkenazis are ‘pure’ blooded.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am Honestly, most of them are unpleasant nearly-illiterate brutes. One of the most repellent army of occupation ever seen in Europe if I'm asked.

Thanks for your honesty. I genuinely appreciate it.
But that just confirms for me that the reason why you are minimising just how much intelligent, well-educated Muslims know about holocaust revisionism (a group of muslims you are denying exists) is BECAUSE you have been duped by the calculated and orchestrated programme of zionist-created, Islamaphobic indoctrination we have all been subject to for all our lives

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am Conclusion: I think that your viewpoint has been subconsciously coloured by your own anti-Zionist feelings (which I share with you). But you don't need to revere Muslims because many of them are the enemies of your enemies.

But I don’t “revere” all muslims. I judge everybody on a person-by-person basis. And although I do recognise group personality traits and patterns of behaviour/attitude, I don’t regard them as fixed.
E.g. I’ve met Israeli jews who I really liked and got on very well with and have formed long-lasting friendship with.
Same applies with Muslims.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:41 am

Spoiler

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:03 am 100% agree. Just pointing out that there is UN Policy White Paper that states the Holocaust is to be used to promote open boarders and globalism.

This dovetails with 'free trade' and the domination of industry and erosion of sovereignty as well as exploitation of cheap labor and tighter controls on employment.

Add to that the importation of these coolies and you are left with quite the mix, and on paper, you can make things look a-ok while Americans tread mill themselves to death as simple wage slaves, owning nothing, and never happy...

To quote Ecclesiastes, nothing is new under the sun.

Is this the UN policy paper you're talking about?




https://postimg.cc/F1sVRjHm

IMO, it indeed dovetails with 'free trade' and cheap labor but is above all about getting rid of Jewry's one and only rival for world domination (Tikkun olam ethnic cleansing through heavily promoted racial dilution and artificially undermined birth rates) - the White Man.

Yes Sir.

Link to the pdf;

https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/fil ... _gross.pdf

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:35 am I don’t think that is correct, EofZ.
That sounds like a viewpoint that has been subconsciously ‘coloured’ by zionist, islamaphobic propaganda.

Come on. Ahmadinejad couldn't even properly counter the gross trick of a journalist showing him a photo of typhus victims in a German concentration camp supposed to prove the Holocaust

I thought that was a good counter. She asked him that question BECAUSE he had said the whole mass-gassing, jew-genocide narrative is A LIE!
She asked him if that photo of dead bodies was a lie.
That question only showed her ignorance.
His choice was how to reply to a stupid, ignorant brain-washed journalist and still serve his leadership and political role.
He honestly replied: “no that photo is not a lie”. And he answered her in a friendly, well-meaning, and informative way trying to help her out of her ignorance by then preceding to give her the wider picture of which there can be no debate! Viz. that over 60 million were killed so why do we go on and on about a small proportion of it.
Full credit to him for that kind, wise reply.

No, that was a terrible reply. It didn't address the six-million lie and it left the miscaptioned-horror-pictures trick unchallenged. He could have answered: "Why do you show me the photo of a dozen people killed by a health disaster in a concentration camp located in Germany to prove that millions of people were killed by poison gas in an alleged death camp located in Poland?". Deploring the huge focus on dead Jews implicitly postulates that millions of Jews were indeed killed during WW2 (or at least it doesn't challenge that claim). From experience, I can say that telling someone "why don't you talk more about the 55-60 million Gentiles who died during WW2?" is useless regarding Holohoax debunking and still blames those numerous deaths on Hitler and Nazi Germany (doesn't deal with the real causes and culprits of WW2).

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm It would have served no purpose to go any deeper into why it was a question from ignorance.
He’s a politician not a historian.
PLUS he was a world leader representing his country who therefore has to be tactful and diplomatic.
He was NOT there being interviewed to promote holocaust revisionism.
You are holding him to a standard that is not appropriate to his role there. He was not giving an interview to justify the conference but to show Iran in the best light.

YOU are the one who mentioned as some kind of super knowledgeable scholar on the Holohoax.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm The question was a trick question to try to alienate American viewers from him and to try and discredit him.
Do you agree?
When you understand that then I think we must agree he handled it really well!

The question was above all a great opportunity to expose the favorite trick used by Holohoaxers to fool the masses, that is, showing horrific pictures of epidemic victims to make viewers erroneously believe that they've seen the Holocaust with their own eyes. Had Ahmadinejad replied as I explained above, those journalists would have probably even edited out that part of the interview because it would have been rightly considered too devastating for a perpetuation of the Holohoax deception. The thing all "magicians" (illusionists) hate the most is a public exposure of their best tricks after all.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am…and he just deplored that there is too much focus on the death of Jews during WWII.

Yeah. And he calmly said he felt sorry for ALL the +60 million who were killed, including Jews. Which was a clever and cool response. He gave the stupid woman no way to bludgeon him with either the ‘anti-semite’ or the holyH cudgel, as she couldn’t argue against that.

This is the quote from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech during the annual Quds Day rally on September 18, 2009, delivered to worshippers at Tehran University (where he led Friday prayers) that the TV journalist was referring to:

«به ادعای آنها چند میلیون یهودی در کوره‌های آدم‌سوزی سوخته شدند و تلاش آنها این بود که این موضوع را جا بیندازند و مظلومیت قوم یهود را با دروغ و طراحی پیچیده تبلیغاتی و عملیات روانی تبلیغ کنند و بگویند که آنها پس از آن نیازمند دولت و سرزمین مستقل هستند و آن‌قدر قوی کار کردند که بسیاری از سیاستمداران و متفکران جهان هم فریب خوردند. بهانه برای ایجاد رژیم صهیونیستی دروغ است، دروغی که بر پایه یک ادعای اثبات‌نشده و افسانه‌ای بنا شده است. اگر این ادعا درست بود، بهترین جا برای ایجاد رژیم صهیونیستی همان سرزمین‌های آلمان و اتریش بود.»

"According to their claim, several million Jews were burned in crematoria, and their effort was to establish this issue and propagate the victimhood of the Jewish people through lies, complex propaganda designs, and psychological operations, saying that afterward they needed an independent government and land. They worked so strongly that many politicians and thinkers around the world were also deceived. The pretext for the creation of the Zionist regime is false, a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim.

You won’t get this, the full quote in any western news media. They remove all the words I have highlighted.

But politics in Iran is not politics in the Western world. Saying that didn't killed his political carreer in Iran. It probably even attracted more voters to him. Looking like a leader who defies the Zionists is patently a productive electoral stand in Iran. Just looks like the Muslim version of populism.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm I invite you now to reanalyse it, putting aside any anti-muslim prejudice and to acknowledge the factual aspect of what he said.
I also suggest that it is not logical (or reasonable) to conclude he knows nothing more in any detail.

As a revisionist, you shouldn't believe that he's very knowledgeable about the Holohoax until he proves that he is. Assuming things is the opposite of revisionism.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm And I again remind you of the courageous example of the muslim Ahmad Rami and his ‘Radio Islam’ website and radio broadcasts. Take a look at his website (which is in multiple languages). Its a phenomenal amount of research, analysis and insight:
https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/svenska/svensk.htm

Here is what he has on just revisionism:
https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/engli ... vision.htm

Yes, I already knew his website. But once again, a few individuals prove nothing regarding the qualities and defects of their people. Moreover, being courageous and being an outstanding scholar or/and researcher are 2 different things.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am And his main counterarguments to Holocaust-related outraged questions were that the Zionist censorship of Holocaust revisionism is fishy and that "the Palestinian people had no role to play in the Holocaust"...

Yeah! Good answer! So As above.
What he says to stupid journalists who are serving zionist-controlled news-networks is NOT representative of how much he actually knows about what is false.
He said to Iranians at the University that several million jews cremated is a lie. That implies he knows the details about crematoria burning times per body, and the impossibility of the alleged open-air pyres with no fuel and no mass-graves.

Innuendoes that the Holocaust is fake because the Zionists ban its refutation, are useless. And stating that "the Palestinian people had no role to play in the Holocaust" of course postulates that the Holocaust is a real event. Basic logic and consistency.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am
And to answer your question, yes, I know many Muslims in the real world.

In what capacity? And how well do you ‘know’ them?
Do you have ANY friends in the work place or as fellow parents of school-children, etc?

Friends would be a big overstatement, but I often had to interact with these people at work, at school, in the streets, etc. Who can still avoid that these days?

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am There are tons of them in Europe.

Yeah, the majority of those brought in from under-developed countries by zionist organisations with the self-confessed dual aim to i.) destroy national identities, destabilise society, create division and conflict AND ii.) to create a multi-cultural miscegenation soup where only Ashkenazis are ‘pure’ blooded.

Yes, I know that. But it doesn't make me a friend of Jewry's favorite biological weapons anyway.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am Honestly, most of them are unpleasant nearly-illiterate brutes. One of the most repellent army of occupation ever seen in Europe if I'm asked.

Thanks for your honesty. I genuinely appreciate it.
But that just confirms for me that the reason why you are minimising just how much intelligent, well-educated Muslims know about holocaust revisionism (a group of muslims you are denying exists) is BECAUSE you have been duped by the calculated and orchestrated programme of zionist-created, Islamaphobic indoctrination we have all been subject to for all our lives

One doesn't need to go through any calculated Zionist programme of Islamophobic brainwashing to dislike Muslims. Having to live with them is more than enough for that.

Now I wonder if YOU have ever met many Muslims in the real world. Where do you live? At the North Pole? Mr Claus, is that you?

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 12:22 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:30 am Conclusion: I think that your viewpoint has been subconsciously coloured by your own anti-Zionist feelings (which I share with you). But you don't need to revere Muslims because many of them are the enemies of your enemies.

But I don’t “revere” all muslims. I judge everybody on a person-by-person basis. And although I do recognise group personality traits and patterns of behaviour/attitude, I don’t regard them as fixed.
E.g. I’ve met Israeli jews who I really liked and got on very well with and have formed long-lasting friendship with.
Same applies with Muslims.

Do you realize that you sound very much like the Jews who claim without a proof that you "deny" the Holocaust because you secretly hate Jews and who never address your Holohoax-debunking arguments during discussions?

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:20 pm YOU are the one who mentioned [Ahmadinejad] as some kind of super knowledgeable scholar on the Holohoax.

Oh dear!

No, I didn’t.
I gave him as “just ONE example” of a Muslim who knows more than your claim of “nothing” about the detail of holyH revision.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:35 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:20 pm YOU are the one who mentioned [Ahmadinejad] as some kind of super knowledgeable scholar on the Holohoax.

Oh dear!

No, I didn’t.
I gave him as “just ONE example” of a Muslim who knows more than your claim of “nothing” about the detail of holyH revision.

And you failed to show that he does.

But the strife around his statements has nevertheless generated some funny graphics. Better than nothing, I guess.