"56 Olympic Swimming Pools" and Treblinka (Nessie's logic)

[Callafangers]

Worth mentioning also is that Judge L notes multiple other craters in the area, with no mention of any of these having ash/sand contents or being worthy of further excavation as such.

The corpse/ash focus is all about this single (very large) crater, which had ashes/sand within and was exploded atop a 2 hectares surface area.

Other craters had spoons, rags, luggage, etc.

[szlafrok]

I have some acquaintances in my city's water & sewer dept. When they dig a trench of 5 feet deep (1.5m) or more, they use some kind of shoring, trench box etc. At 20 feet deep, they have already reached for the phone and engaged an engineering firm with special equipment - they don't touch it themselves. People have lost their lives in collapses, so they take it seriously. Un-shored holes can be dug, but depending on soil type, the sides must be sloped, or sometimes stepped, to prevent collapse. Near vertical holes are only possible in bedrock. I am skeptical of accounts where the narrators take pains to mention "special" digging equipment, but fail to mention either shoring or sloping which such large holes would require. These narrators are either not good at estimating distances, or else not providing a very detailed account, or perhaps they have made up the figures to fit a 'narrative'. Giving only a length, width, depth and calculating a rectangular prism volume only leads to more questions, like did you measure the bottom of the pit, or the edges, what was the slope, or what system of shoring was employed?

I am also skeptical of the amount of explosives necessary to dig a 7m deep crater. As it happens, we have an example in Toulouse in 2001, 7m deep and 40m wide, resulting from 300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. That's 661,000 pounds, roughly, about as much fertilizer as would fit in 3 American-railroad hopper cars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_ ... _explosion

[Wetzelrad]

The actual crater depth as described is 6 meters, with a short dig there finding nothing beyond 7.5 meters.

Is it possible the depths we are given are offset by the crater wall? Since craters often form walls higher than the surrounding ground, it's easy to imagine that all the depth measurements were made from the top of that elevated wall rather than the original level ground.

[Callafangers]

The actual crater depth as described is 6 meters, with a short dig there finding nothing beyond 7.5 meters.

Is it possible the depths we are given are offset by the crater wall? Since craters often form walls higher than the surrounding ground, it's easy to imagine that all the depth measurements were made from the top of that elevated wall rather than the original level ground.

There's also the question of how much of a non-ash (e.g. soil) layer there was on top of any ash layers. A huge explosion is going to mix the layers, making even modest ash/corpse/sand layer(s) appear more diffuse and uniform throughout the entire depth.

Altogether, it's mind-boggling that Nessie has interpreted this to mean 800,000 corpses/Jews. This could be as few as several hundred corpses, or even less if the ash includes other burnt items.

"56 Olympic sized swimming pools"

[Callafangers]

I have some acquaintances in my city's water & sewer dept. When they dig a trench of 5 feet deep (1.5m) or more, they use some kind of shoring, trench box etc. At 20 feet deep, they have already reached for the phone and engaged an engineering firm with special equipment - they don't touch it themselves. People have lost their lives in collapses, so they take it seriously. Un-shored holes can be dug, but depending on soil type, the sides must be sloped, or sometimes stepped, to prevent collapse. Near vertical holes are only possible in bedrock.

Hi szlafrok, welcome to the forum.

This is actually a very important point when discussing potential grave volume. It's one of the key volume reduction factors which I have actually seen the HC (HolocaustControversies) bloggers admit in the past. It shaves off quite a few cubic meters from the presumed total (e.g. based on 'disturbed soil' and inferences from core sample depth).

[Stubble]

Just going to point out, there are also craters, on the moon.



Coincidence?