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Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:43 am
by Keen
Thanks for that Stubble.
Much appreciated.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:31 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:21 am
After reflecting on it, and, ruminating on these reports, it still stands out to me how little evidence there is of 'mass murder'.
This is not the same as saying there are not people there 'embraced by mother earth'. There are some bodies there, and some human remains in various states.
When I first started digging in to these reports, I came a little unglued, looking at many, many cubic meters of clean sand.
There can not be a quarter of a million people buried there, the space is entirely too small.
Nick will pivot to 'they were cremated, the full quarter million were never buried there'.
The fact is, the space is too small for half that.
That is why the NOVA program was scrubbed. They realized that they were revealing just how small and shallow the areas of disturbered ground were and proving Kola's "study" to be bogus.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:41 pm
by Archie
It seems there is good reason to question their characterizations. Something to keep in mind with the Belzec study where they've shown no photographs of the samples whatsoever.
I mean, maybe there's a little something there, but it really doesn't look like much.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 5:09 pm
by Stubble
That's a big part of why I lost it the other day Archie. I mean, I lost it man. Rage isn't even the right word.
They know they aren't in the dirt there, I am being consciously lied to.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:03 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 5:09 pm
That's a big part of why I lost it the other day Archie. I mean, I lost it man. Rage isn't even the right word.
They
know they aren't in the dirt there, I am being
consciously lied to.
I don't mean to derail this thread by bringing up another camp, BUT...
Stubble, if you think Sobibor is bad, wait until you look into Ponary.
There is literally nothing there.
NOTHING.
In fact, it could be said that there is less than nothing. They are literally claiming that holes in the ground filled with nothing but air are "huge mass graves."
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:04 am
by Stubble
There is almost nothing at any of the sites. The excuses about that are many and long.
Apparently, the Germans must have had a giant meat grinder at the extermination camps and poured the dead in as a liquid in the beginning, even so, the claimed tally doesn't fit though, so, I don't know what they did with the excess.
I'm told that millions upon millions of people were murdered, and yet, even 80+ years later, not even those missing are identified, what's less those claimed murdered.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:42 am
by Keen
Stubble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:04 am
There is almost nothing at any of the sites.
Right, but what I'm saying is, there in NOTHING in the 7 alleged "huge mass graves" of Ponary except air.
Re: Sobibor 2012 excavation
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:37 am
by Stubble
Looking on CODOH for information on Ponary, I ran into this news article describing jews being gassed at the Treblinka 'extermination camp' with 'poison gas' before it was even opened.
https://codoh.com/library/document/a-pr ... -for-jews/
According to the article Nick was incredulous about it.
Well, here it is fella's. Lay eyes on some literal atrocity propaganda from the Polish Government in Exile presented as fact.