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Re: Sobibor Mass Graves?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 4:31 pm
by Keen
I am not certain, but I think the following photo:

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is supposed to be of one of Sobibor's alleged 24 "scientifically / archaeologically proven huge mass graves."

I know that the charlaton Yoram Haimi is on the right, and what you see between the two shovels is, I think, alleged to be human remains.

Re: Sobibor Mass Graves?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 4:41 pm
by Stubble
Going to guess that that pile is alleged to be cremains.

Mass grave would be a bit of an overstatement if that is the case.

Re: Sobibor Mass Graves?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 10:02 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 4:41 pm Going to guess that that pile is alleged to be cremains.

Mass grave would be a bit of an overstatement if that is the case.
Yes, and that is if there are any actual human remains visible in this photo, cremated or othewise. Enlarge the photo and take a good look.

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There seems to be a few "things" that look like they COULD be bone fragments. But we have no idea if they are stones, actual human bone fragments, actual cremated human bone fragments or bone fragments from an animal. But what else is odd about this photo?

First off, the photo is taken to make it look like two guys are taking a break from diggin in a "huge mass grave" and is taken at an angle that makes it look like they are standing in a pit 10 or so feet deep. It looks to me that the photo is taken from a vantage point that gives an illusion that the pit is much deeper than it really is and these two have just stepped in and are posing for the photo.

And why would the evil Nazis dig a massive pit 10 feet deep and only deposit a small portion of the cremated remains of one person in it and then fill the pit back in? That doesn't sound like a very efficient use of time and effort to me. My guess is if those "things" are not stones, they are not human bone fragments, cremated or otherwise. (Remember, Yoram Haimi is a proven liar, coward and fraud.)

Remember, if there really was a Sobibor holocaust, there would be about 1.825 million pounds of bone fragments and 8 million teeth buried at Sobibor.

Re: Sobibor Mass Graves?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 3:03 am
by Wetzelrad
The above photo is actually meant to show that they hit ground water at a depth of 3.3 meters. This is Sobibor grave 1. Notably, Andrzej Kola described this pit as 4.3 meters deep with other pits reaching to a depth as low as 5.8 meters, while Yitzak Arad described these pits as "5 to 7 meters deep", which if true would have put them halfway underwater.
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Haimi says that grave 1 "was not used as a mass grave", but according to his caption you should be able to see a "Layer of dark soil mixed with crushed bone fragments". Personally I can't see it.

Re: Sobibor Mass Graves?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 12:28 pm
by Keen
Wetzelrad wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 3:03 am The above photo is actually meant to show that they hit ground water at a depth of 3.3 meters. This is Sobibor grave 1. Notably, Andrzej Kola described this pit as 4.3 meters deep with other pits reaching to a depth as low as 5.8 meters, while Yitzak Arad described these pits as "5 to 7 meters deep", which if true would have put them halfway underwater.

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Haimi says that grave 1 "was not used as a mass grave", but according to his caption you should be able to see a "Layer of dark soil mixed with crushed bone fragments". Personally I can't see it.
Thanks for the info Wetzelrad. I'll give this thread more attention soon when I have more time.