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Re: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:59 pm
by Nessie
borjastick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:31 pm
Nazgul wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:48 am
Nessie wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:25 am Revisionists know little to nothing about witnesses. Their sole aim is to dispute anything that a witness says that they do not agree with, even when that witness claim is corroborated. Revisionists are unique in the way they analyse witness testimony, failed to separate hearsay from eyewitnesses and ignoring common witness and memory failings, resulting in the highly unlikely 100% of them have lied, from the earliest reports during the war, to the present day.
A generalization with no facts. When a detective arrests someone on probable cause, they already think a person is guilty, in probability. They will try and catch out the suspect during interrogation, even though their disconfirming statements may be corroborated; perhaps an alibi. The detectives will then investigate this scenario, checking if the alibi or whatever, adds to some truth. The issue is that with very historical cases, facts from observation and hearsay become blurred.
There was a quote from some israeli politician once who said something like 'we don't need evidence, we have witnesses'.
That is an odd quote, since witnesses are a form of evidence. It may be in relation to all the Nazi destruction of physical and other evidence, leaving witnesses as the main source of evidence.
The problem with extreme believers like you know who is that they think that if 1000s say something happened then it must be true. But at the same time ignoring that all flying saucer claims seem to be identical as do alien descriptions.
It is significant that Nazis, German and Ukrainian, civilian Germans and Poles and Jews from multiple nations all agree, when they worked at places such as the Kremas, they saw gas chambers and/or gassings. For such a disparate group, who would not normally cooperate and where there was no opportunity for collusion, to all agree. It is significant that not one single witness who worked in a Krema, or AR camp, states there were no gassings and what happened instead.

Unlike witnesses to flying saucers and aliens, there is evidence to corroborate the gas chambers. Furthermore, alien visits are not physically possible, but Germans building gas chambers are.
They also ignore the fact that almost every person who claimed there were gas chambers in the camps also when questioned admitted they didn't actually see one in use and heard about it third hand or worse. Kitty Hart Moxon and her mates all claim this that and the other while eating from poop bowls and swallowing diamonds yet want to be believed about something they never saw.
That is the difference between hearsay and eyewitness evidence. Historians and the trials used eyewitnesses as their primary source of evidence for gas chambers.
Jews lie and love to tell stories, they live in make believe land where if someone says something it is real (in their mind) but never deal with the harsh reality, scientific fact and evidence. The evidence doesn't suit their claims and subsequent world power and influence. One only has to see the obscene slaughter of innocent women and children currently going on in Gaza to realise these people are animals yet they keep pushing the claim that Hamas is among the population and as such everyone is a fair target. Only yesterday in Lebanon two men on an otherwise deserted beach were fishing calmly and doing nothing wrong to anyone. An israeli drone comes over and obliterates them both. How is that in any way the action of a decent and believable, credible nation?
That is an expression of your bias and motive to believe in Holocaust Denial.