The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:49 am Good to know that there exists admittedly no paper trail for Aktion 1005 itself.



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Also made me wondered. So, your Holocaust was the 'best documented genocide in human history'. But unfortunately, those darn Nazis destroyed all the evidences proving it.

Hektor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:08 am ...


Also made me wondered. So, your Holocaust was the 'best documented genocide in human history'. But unfortunately, those darn Nazis destroyed all the evidences proving it.

The Holocaust was a series of operations, spread across Europe, that arguably started in the early 1930s, and lasted till 1945, with its effects resonating to the present day. How the Nazis dealt with the Jews, varied significantly, depending on how cooperative the country they occupied or were aligned to, was. The vast majority of Danish and Finish Jews survived, due to very low levels of cooperation. Where the French government retained control, French Jews had a high rate of survival. Polish Jews had a low rate, because the Nazis took over the running of Poland, which technically ceased to exist.

The amount of evidence as to what happened to the Jews, is far higher for those who escaped arrest, than it is for those who were arrested. We know exactly what happened to Norwegian Jews who escaped to Sweden. But of those who were arrested and sent to Auschwitz, many disappeared and there is no detailed evidence of their fate. There is a lot of evidence about the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, but that ends for those sent to TII. The Nazis kept records for the ghetto, but not TII. There is evidence about the planning for resettlement in Madagascar, but very little survives for Aktion 1005.

The result is that some parts of the Holocaust are very well documented and others have little. What is consistent, is that Jews who avoided arrest, left far more evidence of their existence, than those who were arrested. Of those who were arrested, there is far more evidence of existence at Theresienstadt than there is at Sobibor. Those selected for work on arrival at A-B, left documented evidence of their existence, unlike those not selected for work.

The evidential gaps are significant and explainable, by the destruction of evidence, from which it is reasonable to conclude that the Nazis were hiding criminal activity.

Hektor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:08 am Also made me wondered. So, your Holocaust was the 'best documented genocide in human history'. But unfortunately, those darn Nazis destroyed all the evidences proving it.

The trick lies in the untold fact that only the non-murderous parts of that alleged genocide left a paper trail behind. Not telling the general public about that, silencing the vilified dissenters who can expose it (the "evil deniers"©) and repeating the "best documented genocide in human history" distortion again and again like a mantra are enough to keep that deceitful illusion of a most documented genocide alive. Plus the fact that all the academics must pretend that quoting alien-abduction-style testimonies about things devoid of any tangible evidence is a proper and valid way to document anything if they don't want to see their careers destroyed in the next second. Not to mention the systematic use of horror pictures portraying typhus victims as mass murder victims (preconditioning, emotional manipulation)...

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:48 pm ...
The trick lies in the untold fact that only the non-murderous parts of that alleged genocide left a paper trail behind.

That comment is typical of so-called revisionists. Do you believe what you just said? Have you conducted any research to see if your belief is true? Or are you knowingly lying?

Action T4 left behind a paper trail, that includes a Hitler order, authorising the euthanasia of the disabled.

The mass shootings, in particular by the Einsatzgruppen, left behind a large paper trail. In 1941-2, the Nazis were confident transmissions were undecodable. They also had a lot of support for shooting Jews, by eastern Europeans, who, in multiple instances, took advantage and started to shoot Jews themselves. Romanians and Serbians ran their own Holocausts.

Not telling the general public about that, silencing the vilified dissenters who can expose it (the "evil deniers"©) and repeating the "best documented genocide in human history" distortion again and again like a mantra are enough to keep that deceitful illusion of a most documented genocide alive.

It was protests from the German public and church, that forced Action T4 to be officially cancelled in 1941, but it continued to a limited extent, in secrecy, until 1945. Those involved in AR, had to sign a secrecy order. They had learned that they needed to be more circumspect about what they were doing. That secrecy was also needed, as the Nazis realised that messages were being decoded and there were reports of mass murder appearing in the Western press. Hence gassings at A-B, in 1943-4, were referred to as "special" actions or treatment.

Plus the fact that all the academics must pretend that quoting alien-abduction-style testimonies about things devoid of any tangible evidence is a proper and valid way to document anything if they don't want to see their careers destroyed in the next second. Not to mention the systematic use of horror pictures portraying typhus victims as mass murder victims (preconditioning, emotional manipulation)...

Again, do you really believe that the testimonies are devoid of evidence? What about the corroboration provided by the documents recording the construction of undressing rooms, gas chambers and mass corpse cremation ovens inside the Kremas? How do they not corroborate the eyewitness claims of people undressing, being gassed and cremated?

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:48 pm ...
The trick lies in the untold fact that only the non-murderous parts of that alleged genocide left a paper trail behind.

That comment is typical of so-called revisionists. Do you believe what you just said? Have you conducted any research to see if your belief is true? Or are you knowingly lying?

Action T4 left behind a paper trail, that includes a Hitler order, authorising the euthanasia of the disabled.

The mass shootings, in particular by the Einsatzgruppen, left behind a large paper trail. In 1941-2, the Nazis were confident transmissions were undecodable. They also had a lot of support for shooting Jews, by eastern Europeans, who, in multiple instances, took advantage and started to shoot Jews themselves. Romanians and Serbians ran their own Holocausts.

Aktion T4 was not part of the so-called Holocaust, the alleged "genocide of European Jews during World War II". And what's wrong with ending the degrading life and unnecessary sufferings of Mother Nature's biggest blunders anyway? All the fuss about that is just childish Christian sentimentality (inept command from toxic guru) and evil Jewish hypocrisy (feigned indignation) if I'm asked.

And unreliable documents like the dubious Einsatzgruppen "reports" are just good enough to be used as bird cage liners if I'm asked.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Not telling the general public about that, silencing the vilified dissenters who can expose it (the "evil deniers"©) and repeating the "best documented genocide in human history" distortion again and again like a mantra are enough to keep that deceitful illusion of a most documented genocide alive.

It was protests from ... [uninteresting off topic conspiratorial blah blah]

I was talking about what the postwar academia and media have been doing for decades, that is, hiding from the general public that there is no paper trail for the Nazi gas chambers, NOT about the baseless conspiracy theory made up by Holohoaxers in order to "explain" why there is no such paper trail or other tangible evidence.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Plus the fact that all the academics must pretend that quoting alien-abduction-style testimonies about things devoid of any tangible evidence is a proper and valid way to document anything if they don't want to see their careers destroyed in the next second. Not to mention the systematic use of horror pictures portraying typhus victims as mass murder victims (preconditioning, emotional manipulation)...

Again, do you really believe that the testimonies are devoid of evidence? What about the corroboration provided by the documents recording the construction of undressing rooms, gas chambers and mass corpse cremation ovens inside the Kremas? How do they not corroborate the eyewitness claims of people undressing, being gassed and cremated?

A corroboration only inside your false paradigm, with all its a priori conclusions and sinister interpretations. In the real world, just a project for hygiene facilities to address the health emergency which was eventually aborted because no longer needed.

See: The Morgues of the Crematoria at Birkenau in the Light of Documents, By Carlo Mattogno
https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... au-in-the/
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t910780/

And there were no mass corpse cremation ovens in Birkenau. In reality, mere concentration camps like Buchenwald and Dachau were better equipped with crematory ovens than Birkenau regarding the planned number of inmates and the epidemic mortality at those places.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:48 pm

Hektor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:08 am Also made me wondered. So, your Holocaust was the 'best documented genocide in human history'. But unfortunately, those darn Nazis destroyed all the evidences proving it.

The trick lies in the untold fact that only the non-murderous parts of that alleged genocide left a paper trail behind. Not telling the general public about that, silencing the vilified dissenters who can expose it (the "evil deniers"©) and repeating the "best documented genocide in human history" distortion again and again like a mantra are enough to keep that deceitful illusion of a most documented genocide alive. Plus the fact that all the academics must pretend that quoting alien-abduction-style testimonies about things devoid of any tangible evidence is a proper and valid way to document anything if they don't want to see their careers destroyed in the next second. Not to mention the systematic use of horror pictures portraying typhus victims as mass murder victims (preconditioning, emotional manipulation)...

Another trick is to give reprisals a genocidal character to it. That's also necessary, if you try to cover up that those reprisals were harsh, due to previous cruelty of partisans and Bolsheviks especially to the local populations.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:08 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:48 pm ...
The trick lies in the untold fact that only the non-murderous parts of that alleged genocide left a paper trail behind.

That comment is typical of so-called revisionists. Do you believe what you just said? Have you conducted any research to see if your belief is true? Or are you knowingly lying?

Action T4 left behind a paper trail, that includes a Hitler order, authorising the euthanasia of the disabled.

The mass shootings, in particular by the Einsatzgruppen, left behind a large paper trail. In 1941-2, the Nazis were confident transmissions were undecodable. They also had a lot of support for shooting Jews, by eastern Europeans, who, in multiple instances, took advantage and started to shoot Jews themselves. Romanians and Serbians ran their own Holocausts.

Aktion T4 was not part of the so-called Holocaust, the alleged "genocide of European Jews during World War II". And what's wrong with ending the degrading life and unnecessary sufferings of Mother Nature's biggest blunders anyway? All the fuss about that is just childish Christian sentimentality (inept command from toxic guru) and evil Jewish hypocrisy (feigned indignation) if I'm asked.

Aktion T4 proves that the Nazis were prepared to kill people they considered unworthy of life and to achoever policy ends.

And unreliable documents like the dubious Einsatzgruppen "reports" are just good enough to be used as bird cage liners if I'm asked.

Typical so-called revisionist, claiming it was all lies, all those soldiers lied to Nazi high command, but no revision to the history of the EG is offered! Manstein was not in the EG.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Not telling the general public about that, silencing the vilified dissenters who can expose it (the "evil deniers"©) and repeating the "best documented genocide in human history" distortion again and again like a mantra are enough to keep that deceitful illusion of a most documented genocide alive.

It was protests from ... [uninteresting off topic conspiratorial blah blah]

I was talking about what the postwar academia and media have been doing for decades, that is, hiding from the general public that there is no paper trail for the Nazi gas chambers, NOT about the baseless conspiracy theory made up by Holohoaxers in order to "explain" why there is no such paper trail or other tangible evidence.

I am explaining that the Nazis learnt from their mistakes, leaving a too obvious paper trail, to leave such an obvious one for the use of mass gassings. Typical for a so-called revisionist, you have failed to understand the chronology from T4 to AR.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Plus the fact that all the academics must pretend that quoting alien-abduction-style testimonies about things devoid of any tangible evidence is a proper and valid way to document anything if they don't want to see their careers destroyed in the next second. Not to mention the systematic use of horror pictures portraying typhus victims as mass murder victims (preconditioning, emotional manipulation)...

Again, do you really believe that the testimonies are devoid of evidence? What about the corroboration provided by the documents recording the construction of undressing rooms, gas chambers and mass corpse cremation ovens inside the Kremas? How do they not corroborate the eyewitness claims of people undressing, being gassed and cremated?

A corroboration only inside your false paradigm, with all its a priori conclusions and sinister interpretations. In the real world, just a project for hygiene facilities to address the health emergency which was eventually aborted because no longer needed.

Again, you do not understand basic investigation involves gathering evidence, to see what corroborates and be confirmed to have happened. Mass gassings is proved by corroborating evidence. No interpretation is required, when 100% of the eyewitnesses state that certain camps and buildings were used for mass gassings.

See: The Morgues of the Crematoria at Birkenau in the Light of Documents, By Carlo Mattogno
https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... au-in-the/
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t910780/

And there were no mass corpse cremation ovens in Birkenau. In reality, mere concentration camps like Buchenwald and Dachau were better equipped with crematory ovens than Birkenau regarding the planned number of inmates and the epidemic mortality at those places.

There is corroborating documentary and eyewitness evidence of mass corpse cremation ovens at A-B.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:08 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm That comment is typical of so-called revisionists. Do you believe what you just said? Have you conducted any research to see if your belief is true? Or are you knowingly lying?

Action T4 left behind a paper trail, that includes a Hitler order, authorising the euthanasia of the disabled.

The mass shootings, in particular by the Einsatzgruppen, left behind a large paper trail. In 1941-2, the Nazis were confident transmissions were undecodable. They also had a lot of support for shooting Jews, by eastern Europeans, who, in multiple instances, took advantage and started to shoot Jews themselves. Romanians and Serbians ran their own Holocausts.

Aktion T4 was not part of the so-called Holocaust, the alleged "genocide of European Jews during World War II". And what's wrong with ending the degrading life and unnecessary sufferings of Mother Nature's biggest blunders anyway? All the fuss about that is just childish Christian sentimentality (inept command from toxic guru) and evil Jewish hypocrisy (feigned indignation) if I'm asked.

Aktion T4 proves that the Nazis were prepared to kill people they considered unworthy of life and to achoever policy ends.

Nope. Aktion T4 proves that killing "people" whose lives were not worth living was an act of mercy (hence the name "mercy deaths"). Not only a Nazi thing. A number of doctors in democraties also advocated such a policy even before Hitler entered politics.





And Holohoaxers always failed to prove a link between euthanasia and homicidal gas chambers with solid evidence. The existence of Aktion T4 itself is not proof that more than lethal injections were used to implement it.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 amand to achoever policy ends.

What policy ends? The end of needless suffering for pathetic creatures who shouldn't even have been born in the first place?

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

And unreliable documents like the dubious Einsatzgruppen "reports" are just good enough to be used as bird cage liners if I'm asked.

Typical so-called revisionist, claiming it was all lies, all those soldiers lied to Nazi high command, but no revision to the history of the EG is offered! Manstein was not in the EG.

How could you know about the revision to that history when you patently never bothered to read a single revisionist book or paper? For info, the revised history of the Einsatzgruppen is that of military units involved in anti-partisan warfare (including reprisals) during the fierce war on the Eastern front. And don't tell me that only "Israel" has the right to vigorously defend itself against terrorists.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm It was protests from ... [uninteresting off topic conspiratorial blah blah]

I was talking about what the postwar academia and media have been doing for decades, that is, hiding from the general public that there is no paper trail for the Nazi gas chambers, NOT about the baseless conspiracy theory made up by Holohoaxers in order to "explain" why there is no such paper trail or other tangible evidence.

I am explaining that the Nazis learnt from their mistakes, leaving a too obvious paper trail, to leave such an obvious one for the use of mass gassings. Typical for a so-called revisionist, you have failed to understand the chronology from T4 to AR.

Nobody failed to understand the bogus chronology from T4 to AR. The Jews massively used their mass media to get the message accross. And the Jews also miserably failed to prove the use of homicidal gas chambers in both policies with solid evidence. But who needs solid evidence when you possess such enormous media, economic and political power after all?

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:02 pm Again, do you really believe that the testimonies are devoid of evidence? What about the corroboration provided by the documents recording the construction of undressing rooms, gas chambers and mass corpse cremation ovens inside the Kremas? How do they not corroborate the eyewitness claims of people undressing, being gassed and cremated?

A corroboration only inside your false paradigm, with all its a priori conclusions and sinister interpretations. In the real world, just a project for hygiene facilities to address the health emergency which was eventually aborted because no longer needed.

Again, you do not understand basic investigation involves gathering evidence, to see what corroborates and be confirmed to have happened. Mass gassings is proved by corroborating evidence. No interpretation is required, when 100% of the eyewitnesses state that certain camps and buildings were used for mass gassings.

Too bad the number of alleged witnesses to anything doesn't matter at all. There are more "witnesses" to alien abductions, bigfoots and ghosts than "witnesses" to Nazi gas chambers. And the former believe they have corroborating evidence just as strongly as the latter, but they don't have any corroborating or non-corroborating solid evidence. No one of them. They're just being delusional. Both of them.

No iron-clad palpable evidence, no proven fact. These are the evidentiary standards of the modern era, whether you like it or not.


https://postimg.cc/k6y4Pbrx

Anyway, it turns out that memory is much less reliable than previously thought. A lack of false memories about Nazi gas chambers would be a big surprise in this era saturated with atrocity propaganda about Nazi gas chambers. In past centuries, many people mistakenly believed they had seen Virgin Mary and Angels. After WW2, some former deportees (i.e. those who did not deliberately lie for one reason or another) mistakenly believed they have seen Doctor Mengele and Nazi gas chambers. As the notorious Holohoax liar Herman Rosenblat once said, it was real in their minds...






https://postimg.cc/K4LxHbRm


https://postimg.cc/PCH75sXz


https://postimg.cc/7f9rTMB2

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:11 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:08 pm

Aktion T4 was not part of the so-called Holocaust, the alleged "genocide of European Jews during World War II". And what's wrong with ending the degrading life and unnecessary sufferings of Mother Nature's biggest blunders anyway? All the fuss about that is just childish Christian sentimentality (inept command from toxic guru) and evil Jewish hypocrisy (feigned indignation) if I'm asked.

Aktion T4 proves that the Nazis were prepared to kill people they considered unworthy of life and to achoever policy ends.

Nope. Aktion T4 proves that killing "people" whose lives were not worth living was an act of mercy (hence the name "mercy deaths"). Not only a Nazi thing. A numbers doctors in democraties advocated such a policy even before Hitler entered politics.

That other countries considered or used euthanasia as a policy, does not therefore mean that the Nazis did not use killing people, to achieve policy ends.

And Holohoaxers always failed to prove a link between euthanasia and homicidal gas chambers with solid evidence. The existence of Aktion T4 itself is not proof that more than lethal injections were used to implement it.

The entire German staff of the AR camps, coming from T4, after it was officially cancelled, is a proven link between euthanasia and mass gassings of Jews and others.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 amand to achoever policy ends.

What policy ends? The end of needless suffering for pathetic creatures who shouldn't even have been born in the first place?

You are agreeing with me, that to the Nazis, killing people was an acceptble action to fulfil a policy, such as euthanising the disabled. That was not just children born with a disability, but prisoners from the camps, who due to a diability, could not work.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

And unreliable documents like the dubious Einsatzgruppen "reports" are just good enough to be used as bird cage liners if I'm asked.

Typical so-called revisionist, claiming it was all lies, all those soldiers lied to Nazi high command, but no revision to the history of the EG is offered! Manstein was not in the EG.

How could you know about the revision to that history when you patently never bothered to read a single revisionist book or paper? For info, the revised history of the Einsatzgruppen is that of military units involved in anti-partisan warfare (including reprisals) during the fierce war on the Eastern front. And don't tell me that only "Israel" has the right to vigorously defend itself against terrorists.

https://holocausthistory.site/1941-12-1 ... partisans/

"On December 18, 1941, Heinrich Himmler recorded a meeting with Adolf Hitler at the Führerhauptquartier (Wolfsschanze) in his Diensttagebuch (service diary). The brief entry reads: “Jewish Question. | To be exterminated as partisans.”"

https://holocausthistory.site/1942-12-2 ... ur-months/

"On December 29, 1942, Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler delivered a report to Adolf Hitler, mentioning the execution of 363,211 Jews within only four months, between August and November of that year."

The Einsatzgruppen OSRs also listed Jewish executions separately to those of partisans and others. They were all to be executed.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

I was talking about what the postwar academia and media have been doing for decades, that is, hiding from the general public that there is no paper trail for the Nazi gas chambers, NOT about the baseless conspiracy theory made up by Holohoaxers in order to "explain" why there is no such paper trail or other tangible evidence.

I am explaining that the Nazis learnt from their mistakes, leaving a too obvious paper trail, to leave such an obvious one for the use of mass gassings. Typical for a so-called revisionist, you have failed to understand the chronology from T4 to AR.

Nobody failed to understand the bogus chronology from T4 to AR. The Jews massively used their mass media to get the message accross. And the Jews also miserably failed to prove the use of homicidal gas chambers in both policies with solid evidence. But who needs solid evidence when you possess such enormous media, economic and political power after all?

You are again ignoring the evidenced chronology, of T4, 14f13, AR and ending with operations at Birkenau 1943-4, where the Nazis are evidenced and proven to have used murder to get rid of people they did not want and how the paper trail varied, depending on the confidence of those running the operation and chance of discovery.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:51 am

A corroboration only inside your false paradigm, with all its a priori conclusions and sinister interpretations. In the real world, just a project for hygiene facilities to address the health emergency which was eventually aborted because no longer needed.

Again, you do not understand basic investigation involves gathering evidence, to see what corroborates and be confirmed to have happened. Mass gassings is proved by corroborating evidence. No interpretation is required, when 100% of the eyewitnesses state that certain camps and buildings were used for mass gassings.

Too bad the number of alleged witnesses to anything doesn't matter at all. There are more "witnesses" to alien abductions, bigfoots and ghosts than "witnesses" to Nazi gas chambers.

So long as there are two or more witnesses, with evidence independent of them, then there is corroboration. That is how the gas chambers are proven by eyewitnesses, documents, physical and circumstantial evidence.

And the former believe they have corroborating evidence just as strongly as the latter, but they don't. No one of them. No iron-clad palpable evidence, no proven fact. These are the evidentiary standards of the modern era, whether you like it or not.


https://postimg.cc/k6y4Pbrx

Anyway, a lack of false memories about Nazi gas chambers would be a big surprise in this era saturated with atrocity propaganda about Nazi gas chambers. It turned out that memory is much less reliable than previously believed.






https://postimg.cc/K4LxHbRm


https://postimg.cc/PCH75sXz


https://postimg.cc/7f9rTMB2

The eyewitnesses to gassings at the Kremas are corroborated by evidence independent of them. For example, Tauber's description of putting multiple corpses into the ovens, is corroborated by a Topf & Sons document that recorded multiple corpses being stuffed into an oven. Alien abduction claims are not corroborated by anything other than the claims being made.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:38 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:38 am Again, you do not understand basic investigation involves gathering evidence, to see what corroborates and be confirmed to have happened. Mass gassings is proved by corroborating evidence. No interpretation is required, when 100% of the eyewitnesses state that certain camps and buildings were used for mass gassings.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:11 am Too bad the number of alleged witnesses to anything doesn't matter at all. There are more "witnesses" to alien abductions, bigfoots and ghosts than "witnesses" to Nazi gas chambers.

So long as there are two or more witnesses, with evidence independent of them, then there is corroboration. That is how the gas chambers are proven by eyewitnesses, documents, physical and circumstantial evidence.

Smoke and mirrors. There admittedly exists no such non-testimonial corroboration. That's why it took Holohoaxers so long to reluctantly concede that their only smoking gun (the alleged gas chamber of Krema I) was just a gross Soviet postwar sham (the Holohoaxers' damage-control current euphemism is "reconstruction").

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 2:04 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:38 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:38 am Again, you do not understand basic investigation involves gathering evidence, to see what corroborates and be confirmed to have happened. Mass gassings is proved by corroborating evidence. No interpretation is required, when 100% of the eyewitnesses state that certain camps and buildings were used for mass gassings.

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:11 am Too bad the number of alleged witnesses to anything doesn't matter at all. There are more "witnesses" to alien abductions, bigfoots and ghosts than "witnesses" to Nazi gas chambers.

So long as there are two or more witnesses, with evidence independent of them, then there is corroboration. That is how the gas chambers are proven by eyewitnesses, documents, physical and circumstantial evidence.

Smoke and mirrors. There admittedly exists no such non-testimonial corroboration.

Not true. Here is a list of the multiple, corroborating eyewitnesses;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=372

That's why it took Holohoaxers so long to reluctantly concede that their only smoking gun (the alleged gas chamber of Krema I) was just a gross Soviet postwar sham (the Holohoaxers' damage-control current euphemism is "reconstruction").

....

Again, that is just not true. The ruins of Kremas II to V and the two farm houses, are destroyed evidence, from which it can be concluded the Nazis were acting criminally. They left every other building intact.

Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:24 am

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 2:04 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:38 am So long as there are two or more witnesses, with evidence independent of them, then there is corroboration. That is how the gas chambers are proven by eyewitnesses, documents, physical and circumstantial evidence.

Smoke and mirrors. There admittedly exists no such non-testimonial corroboration.

Not true. Here is a list of the multiple, corroborating eyewitnesses;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=372

As your coreligionist Carl Sagan said in the paper above (see the pic "Carl Sagan on Alien Abduction"), there are very numerous convergent eyewitnesses to alien abductions, whose testimonies corroborated each others (or in other words, "culture contaminates," as Carl Sagan put it). But it admittedly proved nothing regarding alien abductions. No iron-clad indisputable tangible evidence, no proven fact, whether you like it or not.

Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:24 am

That's why it took Holohoaxers so long to reluctantly concede that their only smoking gun (the alleged gas chamber of Krema I) was just a gross Soviet postwar sham (the Holohoaxers' damage-control current euphemism is "reconstruction").

Again, that is just not true. The ruins of Kremas II to V and the two farm houses, are destroyed evidence, from which it can be concluded the Nazis were acting criminally. They left every other building intact.

The Soviets didn't weaponize other buildings to fuel anti-German hatred as they did with the crematoria of Majdanek. Some German civilians were brutally slaughtered as a consequence of that. Not leaving such weapons of anti-German propaganda behind after that tragedy was understandable and 100% justified without having to resort to a paranoid conspiracy theory about criminals trying to hide their past wrongdoings.

Crematories were clearly great food for atrocity propaganda (and the subsequent brutalization & murder of German civilians) back then...






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Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 11:53 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:24 am

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 2:04 am

Smoke and mirrors. There admittedly exists no such non-testimonial corroboration.

Not true. Here is a list of the multiple, corroborating eyewitnesses;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=372

As your coreligionist Carl Sagan said in the paper above (see the pic "Carl Sagan on Alien Abduction"), there are very numerous convergent eyewitnesses to alien abductions, whose testimonies corroborated each others (or in other words, "culture contaminates," as Carl Sagan put it). But it admittedly proved nothing regarding alien abductions. No iron-clad indisputable tangible evidence, no proven fact, whether you like it or not.

Alien abduction witnesses, corroborate each other, but there is no other evidence to corroborate them. They are also making claims that are physically impossible to have happened.

Mass gassing witnesses, corroborate each other and there is other evidence to corroborate them. They are also making claims that are physically possible to have happened.

Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:24 am

That's why it took Holohoaxers so long to reluctantly concede that their only smoking gun (the alleged gas chamber of Krema I) was just a gross Soviet postwar sham (the Holohoaxers' damage-control current euphemism is "reconstruction").

Again, that is just not true. The ruins of Kremas II to V and the two farm houses, are destroyed evidence, from which it can be concluded the Nazis were acting criminally. They left every other building intact.

The Soviets didn't weaponize other buildings to fuel anti-German hatred as they did with the crematoria of Majdanek. Some German civilians were brutally slaughtered as a consequence of that. Not leaving such weapons of anti-German propaganda behind after that tragedy was understandable and 100% justified without having to resort to a paranoid conspiracy theory about criminals trying to hide their past wrongdoings.

Crematories were clearly great food for atrocity propaganda (and the subsequent brutalization & murder of German civilians) back then...

Kremas I to V and two farm houses were identified as used for gassings. The Nazis demolished them, except one Krema, that was heavily modified and made into an air raid shelter. They did not demolish any other camp building. That is evidence of a cover up of criminality.