Kula vs Tauber on "Kula columns"

[bombsaway]

I would agree that the 3 example statements are not strictly contradictory.

He has constructed it in such a way to avoid the aspect that matters most; that is the matter of mutual exclusivity. Running a red light and being on the phone are not mutually exclusive. However lets tweak his example to be more relevant to the mutually exclusive nature of our eyewitnesses.

Eyewitness A: I saw him on his phone while he was driving
Eyewitness B: I saw him put his phone in the dumpster before driving because his phone was having malfunctions

These claims are mutually exclusive, and in the event of a crash, using your phone can be material to the cause of the crash. He cannot possibly have thrown his phone away and used it. Therefore it is material as to which one of these claim is bogus or not.

This is much more relevant to our discussions, as the pellets categorically cannot remain inside the column and leave it simultaneously.

Bombsaway: Clearly he must have had a second phone, ergo no contradiction.

Except HH did not identify or explain any such contradictions in Kula vs Tauber. He just stated it as some sort of given without any qualifaction. Oh look one witness aid there were pellets on the floor and a small space under the column, which makes a lot of sense given the container mechanism, which wouldn't catch pellets perfectly, leading to some gettin in the inner column.

[HansHill]

You're doing it again BA, and I'm not going to let you away with it.

small space

Why are you assuming a small space? If there were a gap under the column which Chazan described, in a chaotic and panicky gassing scenario you can easily imagine them being kicked and strewn around the ENTIRE chamber from a desperate crowd trying to save themselves.

You are intentionally twisting the descriptions and claims to suit your intended interpretation.

**Edit** Its possible I've misinterpreted BA's point here - i read it to be the freefallen pellets would be confined solely to a small space under the columns which I have countered. If that wasn't his point please can he clarify.

[bombsaway]

[Chazan] Nearly to the floor. One had left a space which made it possible to clean there. One poured water out and brushed up the remaining pebbles.”

You read this statement as the whole multilayered column was hovering a few inches above the ground without any support whatsoever I guess