The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:49 pm SUMMARY:
I am aware that there has been extremely little conclusive evidence released to us the public.
Consequently, unlike you and Scott, I have not reached any conclusion yet.
Consequently, unlike you and Scott, I have not obediently and gullibly accepted the official, unevidenced story.
Consequently, unlike you and Scott, I have not concluded T. Robinson is definitely guilty.
Unlike you, I am not rejecting evidence if I don’t like it and/or because it refutes what the FBI, govt. and msm are telling us we should believe.

Which is why I find it surprising that:
a.) anyone who has recognised how our govts, news media, TV executives and gullible dupes in society promote a blatantly false ‘official’ WW2 narrative to us,
would
b.)except, justify, find excuses for, and defend from scrutiny an ‘official’ narrative about anything any more. [I now only trust-without-checking the sports results ]

I’m just arguing for looking at all the evidence objectively without any premature bias.
Plus for not dismissing any evidence prematurely [which is the subject of this, your own, topic-thread]

As I see it you (and especially Scott) are arguing against that and for accepting the unevidenced ‘official story’.
You are doing that by inventing lame excuses if any possibly contrary evidence comes up.
And Scott is doing that by obfuscating any discussion with off-topic ramblings and spiteful smearing of anyone showing any doubt or skepticism.

Scott wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 2:48 am I think that Epistemological Nihilism is a real problem in "our" circles. I am not sure what the answer is, but critical-thinking skill is a Revisionist art and science, and we need to find better ways to teach this and to learn the proper investigative methodology. Historiography is one of my favorite subjects, but I do not have all the answers.

I invite CODOH readers to notice what Scott is repeatedly doing here.
He is presenting himself as an expert who is applying critical thinking.
And anyone who disagrees with him as the opposite.

He’s also constantly asserting that the ‘official’ narrative is a slam-dunk case and any doubters are looney-tunes deniers and conspiracy theorists.
Which is precisely what HolyH promoters do. So the logical inconsistency is huge!

Plus he doesn’t present ANY evidence of that ‘expertise’ in either the JFK or Kirk killings.

NOR does he provide any verifiable evidence to support the official version in either.

Instead he just attacks skeptics as ‘grifters’, etc.
And he just insinuated they are equal to ‘flat-earthers’ and ‘epistemological nihilists’.

FAIL.

I provided a mountain of evidence on JFK:

The extremely-comprehensive Bugliosi tome, the doorstop-sized Myers book on the Tippit murder, and the Case Closed bestseller by Posner for those whose time is short.

As far as the Charlie Kirk murder, there is mainly what has been disclosed in the charging documents such as the DNA evidence, the UVU surveillance video that has been partially released, plus neighborhood home surveillance footage showing Robinson casing the area. Plus some hints from texts and chats from the accused, and of course Tyler's parents recognizing their son in photographs released to the public, and Grandpa's rifle that Tyler seemed to no longer have access to.

And during the trial itself, there will no doubt be much more evidence presented than has been released to us already ─ such as the metadata authenticating the Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs texts and chats.

Skepticism and asking questions is perfectly fine ─ unless it imperils using the evidence for coming to any kind of answers.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am I provided a mountain of evidence on JFK: The extremely-comprehensive Bugliosi tome, the doorstop-sized Myers book on the Tippit murder, and the Case Closed bestseller by Posner for those whose time is short.

Someone else’s misrepresenting and concealing of some the facts is not ‘evidence’.
Plus your own avoidance of unwelcome evidence does not show ‘expertise’.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am As far as the Charlie Kirk murder [case], there is mainly what has been disclosed in the charging documents such as the DNA evidence…

A ‘claim’ to have evidence is not “disclosing” the actual evidence itself.
Plus DNA evidence on a person’s possessions found at a crime scene is not definitive proof. The possibility is they were ‘planted’. An honest, unbiased, intelligent approach would allow for that possibility.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am…the UVU surveillance video that has been partially released plus neighborhood home surveillance footage showing Robinson casing the area.

No it doesn’t “show” that. It shows as yet unidentified persons in a particular area. We don’t know yet if the person in each is the same person, who he/they was/were, nor what he/they were doing.
You are demonstrating either a massive confirmation bias or a deliberate and calculated desire to misinform.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am Plus some hints from texts and chats from the accused,

we have seen no proof that those are genuine and much in them that suggests they are not.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am…and of course Tyler's parents recognizing their son in photographs released to the public

It is alleged that that part of the ‘official’ story has been debunked by friends of the family who contacted Candace Owens. We have to conclude she is lying or that part of the ‘official’ story is false.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am and Grandpa's rifle that Tyler seemed to no longer have access to.

You are misrepresenting what we ‘KNOW’ and what you want people to believe. E.g. Grandpa’s rifle fired from 140 hards wouldn’t have made the neat little neck-hole we saw in the videos.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am And during the trial itself, there will no doubt be much more evidence presented than has been released to us already ─ such as the metadata authenticating the Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs texts and chats.

Hopeful speculation. Demonstrating that you are promoting a preferred final outcome as if its a slam-dunk.

Scott wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:39 am Skepticism and asking questions is perfectly fine ─ unless it imperils using the evidence for coming to any kind of answers.

Oh boy!

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Anyone genuinely interested in understanding what actually happened at Utah University on September 10, 2025 might want to check out the viral analysis of the movements of Mikey McCoy immediately after the ‘shot’ was fired. He is the Chief of Staff of TPUSA and supposed to be a “close friend” of Kirk. He was at the event.
Film shows him immediately — (less than 1 second) — immediately turning away from Kirk and calmly walking away with his phone to his ear. I.e. he didn’t duck, nor look to see where the shot had come from — which would have been ‘normal’ behaviour.
And his immediate reaction did not show any sign of surprise at all!
Nor any sense of him or his team being in danger.
Plus he didn’t show ANY concern for Kirk at all — he turned away BEFORE Kirk had fallen off his chair.

Jimmy Dore, Candace Owens and others have isolated the video showing him, highlighted it and discussed this extreeeeeeeemely strange behaviour.
Also they have documented the false statements that McCoy’s father and TPUSA have made to explain away this odd reaction.

I urge anyone wanting to find out what ACTUALLY HAPPENED to check it out.

Either address Bugliosi, Myers, and Posner or drop it. It is not like I cited Jewish filmmaker Oliver Stone, or the actor Kevin Costner, as sources on the real JFK assassination.

Anyway, we should have a trial for Tyler Robinson unless the defendant dies in custody like Lee Harvey Oswald or something ─ or unless the Utah County Prosecutor caves to the Liberals and Jews who are unhappy about the Death Penalty, and a plea deal is offered.

Unlike Latah County in Idaho, which has a population of less that 40 thousand and an old hippie Prosecutor, Utah County in Utah ─ which is inside the Salt Lake City metropolitan area of about 1.3 million ─ has a population of almost 770 thousand.

Plus, the Utah County Prosecutor, the Utah State Governor, and President Trump have all called for the Death Penalty in this political assassination, and that was before a viable suspect was caught.

I agree that assassinations deserve capital punishment, and particularly for violence that endangers freedom-of-speech and academic integrity. I may or may not agree with Salman Rushdie, but the Jihadi who attacked and mutilated him on a lecture stage should be twisted on the gibbet. The People's Republic of New York could only muster up a 25 year sentence.

The sad thing is that campus security for the Charlie Kirk event was not stellar ─ but this assassination was on a free-speech college campus, and the guest speaker was not a former President of the United States like the assassination attempts on Trump, in one of which he was actually shot and mildly hit on the ear.

The connection between AntiFa and Tyler Robinson is not particularly strong ─ but they have been gunning for Turning Point USA for a long time, with neo-Marxist college professors and even academic librarians labelling Kirk and TP USA as "White Nationalist." This label is rather absurd since one of Kirk's guests at a rally a few years ago in Arizona where TP USA is based was Dennis Prager, an ultra-Zionist Libertarian or Conservative Jew.

I am reminded of the old W.C. Fields joke about alcoholics in that "Charlie Kirk is not a White Nationalist because I'm one and he doesn't come to the meetings."

Increased trial transparency and cameras in the courtroom are becoming the norm, so we will be able to scrutinize the case made for and against the guilt of the accused and hopefully get at least the basics of the autopsy report and bullet trajectory, the gun, the ammunition, and other ballistic facts.