The CODOH Revisionist Forum

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:19 am

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:00 am
It’s a rather large plaza.

Not sure what else you’re arguing here.

That's it? Is it big to you? Is a street corner big? Well, the order was to be there and not in the surrounding area, taking into account the call to take everything you could find.

Just as for Gerstein 40 people in a telephone booth was perfectly possible, for you 33 thousand Jews on a street corner is also

Show how big it is.

Numar Patru wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:35 am
Presumably you have Google maps. Take a look yourself.

I was taking issue with your implication that it would be difficult to order Jews to gather in a recently conquered city. Why?

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:40 pm Bombs, I can tell you the caliber being fired from a mile or less...

I can also assure you, had I been in that line and somebody told me that was champagne and fireworks, I could have informed them of the facts...

The state of mind of the victims, who meekly stripped, shovelled a layer of sand over the twitching bodies of their kinsfolk, and then lay patiently, naked in a temperature below zero, to await a shot in the neck, was nothing but the normal resignation of the condemned.

Archie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:06 am

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:40 pm Bombs, I can tell you the caliber being fired from a mile or less...

I can also assure you, had I been in that line and somebody told me that was champagne and fireworks, I could have informed them of the facts...

The book by Gerald Reitlinger is interesting because he was an orthodox author (one of the earliest in fact) yet he acknowledges some of these Holocaust "mysteries."

On Babi Yar, he says (with some understatement) “it must have taken some ingenuity to keep 33,771 people crouching in the road for two days on end, particularly as the small-arms salvos must have been almost within earshot.”

He tries to save it by adding that "almost," but the fact that he hints at the logistical difficulties is revealing. Shooting over 30,000 people in a such a short period of time without them finding out is indeed a perplexing story. Same problem with those stories where people are standing in line waiting to get thrown alive into a bonfire. Makes no sense. If you assume a vastly smaller number of people, then it becomes more believable since you could assume smaller batches and a much more reasonable amount of space between each batch. But 34K in two days ... Even if we go with BA's theory about how they had a "staging area" or whatever just out of earshot, how would you transport them to the killing site fast enough to keep up the necessary pace?

And here's another interesting remark by Reitlinger in reference to the passivity of the victims. If you bring people up to the pit and tell them to lie down on top of dead, bloody bodies, are they going to cooperate with this request or would you have a panic on your hands?

The state of mind of the victims, who meekly stripped, shovelled a layer of sand over the twitching bodies of their kinsfolk, and then lay patiently, naked in a temperature below zero, to await a shot in the neck, was nothing but the normal resignation of the condemned.

We can see from mass shooting videos how people usually react in these situations. They panic, scatter, run away, attempt to find cover. This is human nature. Some brave souls may make a move on the gunman if there's an opportunity. It is perfectly true that in some situations people don't resist their captors but usually this is because 1) they believe their captors intend to let them live and don't wish to antagonize, or 2) any attempt at resistance would be so feeble and futile that it seems pointless. Neither of these make sense given that the victims were unrestrained and would have outnumbered the gunmen by a large multiple.

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:32 am Perhaps tha devious and evil nazis played drums to drown out the gunshots and screaming...

Before they played soccer with severed heads, hacky sack with severed hands, bayonetted babies and ripped them in half...

While drunk...

And stealing everything that wasn't nailed down...

Before raping the dead...

Fuck it, babi yar is a fucking hoax too, and so is the bit about the German jews in Riga. At least now I can stop troubling myself with trying to find out what the hell actually happened there. Nothing happened.

I really thought I was going to get to some deep, critical, and meaningful shit in this thread. Instead, I got the absolute insanity of the orthodox narrative presented unquestioned and unironically as fact...

Nazis were evil. They set out to systematically exterminate the jews. Partisans are a myth, except they were also very successful, but nazis are bad, so they deserved to be hung from trees, skinned, disemboweled, and have their genitals shoved in their mouth. Because the nazis were nothing but a bunch of murderous, thieving necrophiliacs that wanted to kill all the jews. Except that they also lacked the stones to do it, because they were also simultaneously pussies that couldn't shoot people that they hated, raped, mutilated and stole from...

Look, the Einsatzgruppen were counter insurgency specialists and there were 3,000 of them total in theater. If you think they killed 1.7 million jews, and also did their job, you believe in fucking moon nazis and roboHitler at the center of the earth with the dinosaurs.

bombsaway wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:42 am

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:32 am Perhaps tha devious and evil nazis played drums to drown out the gunshots and screaming...

Before they played soccer with severed heads, hacky sack with severed hands, bayonetted babies and ripped them in half...

While drunk...

And stealing everything that wasn't nailed down...

Before raping the dead...

Fuck it, babi yar is a fucking hoax too, and so is the bit about the German jews in Riga. At least now I can stop troubling myself with trying to find out what the hell actually happened there. Nothing happened.

I really thought I was going to get to some deep, critical, and meaningful shit in this thread. Instead, I got the absolute insanity of the orthodox narrative presented unquestioned and unironically as fact...

Nazis were evil. They set out to systematically exterminate the jews. Partisans are a myth, except they were also very successful, but nazis are bad, so they deserved to be hung from trees, skinned, disemboweled, and have their genitals shoved in their mouth. Because the nazis were nothing but a bunch of murderous, thieving necrophiliacs that wanted to kill all the jews. Except that they also lacked the stones to do it, because they were also simultaneously pussies that couldn't shoot people that they hated, raped, mutilated and stole from...

Look, the Einsatzgruppen were counter insurgency specialists and there were 3,000 of them total in theater. If you think they killed 1.7 million jews, and also did their job, you believe in fucking moon nazis and roboHitler at the center of the earth with the dinosaurs.

So if it's a hoax, those Jews got resettled? What should historians believe? Bermuda triangle situation?

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:17 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:58 pm
"In the period covered by the report, the towns of Nikolayev and Kherson in particular were freed of Jews."

They also stated that there were 800,000 Jews in France, and that they deported less than 10%, but that is not true; there were around 300,000. Just because the Nazis said something does not make it absolute true. There are several reports of many Jews still in Berlin during the chaos of 1945, which means that not even the nerve center of the Third Reich was empty of Jews.

According to Wikipedia, no country had a 100% Jewish death toll. The highest ESTIMATE of Jewish deaths by country is said to have been the Netherlands, with 91.5%. In fact, 45% of the Jews in the occupied countries were not affected. Could it have been only those able to work?

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:32 am ...

Fuck it, babi yar is a fucking hoax too, and so is the bit about the German jews in Riga. At least now I can stop troubling myself with trying to find out what the hell actually happened there. Nothing happened.

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Archie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:06 am ... Neither of these make sense ...

Nessie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:30 am
Yet again you have proven that revisionism is not a genuine investigation. You just randomly stop part way through, without following a chronology of events, to find out what took place.

TlsMS93 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:11 am It's amazing how you accuse us of something you don't do yourself. You love to extrapolate what was actually found. Just like Caroline Sturdy Colls, we found the remains of a person, so we found evidence of a mass murder.

HansHill wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:23 pm
CSC disgraced herself by asserting (to a television audience of boomers and laypeople, nonetheless) that finding a tile = finding a gas chamber. These ideologues are not to be taken seriously.