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Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:43 am
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:47 am ...These Jews did not speak a Slavic language and were very much out-of-place in Eastern Europe. The Soviets essentially had them 'trapped' behind the Iron Curtain. The NYT article tells the story of two Jewish sisters from Germany who were forcibly deported to Ukraine by the Soviets after the war, and ended up living most of their lives there. They were only able to leave after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Millions of Jews, who could not speak a Slavic language, from all over Europe, from Greece to Norway, would stand out, trapped behind the Iron Curtain. Which is why it is very odd that revisionists cannot evidence millions of them there and instead, can only find rare reports of such.

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:23 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:43 am
curioussoul wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:47 am ...These Jews did not speak a Slavic language and were very much out-of-place in Eastern Europe. The Soviets essentially had them 'trapped' behind the Iron Curtain. The NYT article tells the story of two Jewish sisters from Germany who were forcibly deported to Ukraine by the Soviets after the war, and ended up living most of their lives there. They were only able to leave after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Millions of Jews, who could not speak a Slavic language
Source on that number of non-Slavic speaking Jewish deportees? Either way, Soviet suspicion towards Western Jews explains why they put a lid on such Jews they encountered in the former OET, and in some cases deported there themselves when encountering them in more Western camps.

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:55 pm
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:23 pm
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:43 am
curioussoul wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:47 am ...These Jews did not speak a Slavic language and were very much out-of-place in Eastern Europe. The Soviets essentially had them 'trapped' behind the Iron Curtain. The NYT article tells the story of two Jewish sisters from Germany who were forcibly deported to Ukraine by the Soviets after the war, and ended up living most of their lives there. They were only able to leave after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Millions of Jews, who could not speak a Slavic language
Source on that number of non-Slavic speaking Jewish deportees?
All Norwegian, Danish, Luxembourg, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Austrian, Italian, Greek and any other non-Slavic speaking countries occupied by the Nazis.
Either way, Soviet suspicion towards Western Jews explains why they put a lid on such Jews they encountered in the former OET, and in some cases deported there themselves when encountering them in more Western camps.
So, where were all the millions of Jews the Nazis arrested 1939 to 1944, living in 1944? Show your evidence.

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:34 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:55 pmAll Norwegian, Danish, Luxembourg, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Austrian, Italian, Greek and any other non-Slavic speaking countries occupied by the Nazis.
I asked for a source for the "millions" mentioned by you, not a list of countries.
So, where were all the millions of Jews the Nazis arrested 1939 to 1944, living in 1944? Show your evidence.
Not the question at hand. I responded to Numar regarding the Soviet attitude towards Western Jews. If you'd like to discuss the broader resettlement action do that in another thread and read what's already been written.

https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-1/
https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-2/
https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-3/

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:41 pm
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:34 pm
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:55 pmAll Norwegian, Danish, Luxembourg, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Austrian, Italian, Greek and any other non-Slavic speaking countries occupied by the Nazis.
I asked for a source for the "millions" mentioned by you, not a list of countries.
I made a mistake, the death toll from non-Slavic speaking countries was less than a million. It was about 600,000.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/107 ... y-country/

That many people would, as you say, stand out in the SU.
So, where were all the millions of Jews the Nazis arrested 1939 to 1944, living in 1944? Show your evidence.
Not the question at hand. I responded to Numar regarding the Soviet attitude towards Western Jews. If you'd like to discuss the broader resettlement action do that in another thread and read what's already been written.

https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-1/
https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-2/
https://codoh.com/library/document/evid ... st-part-3/
Yet again, ask a revisionist to evidence millions of Jews still alive in 1944, and they cannot. The reason why that is, is because millions of them had been murdered. Kues could not find millions still alive in his three part study and stopped producing revisionist writings.

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:17 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:41 pmI made a mistake
Another one? Get your shit together, Nessie.
That many people would, as you say, stand out in the SU.


They certainly would have been looked upon with suspicion by Soviet authorities, prompting more isolation and further deportation East and into forced labor camps/Siberia, as Kues documented in his 3-part study.
Yet again, ask a revisionist to evidence millions of Jews still alive in 1944, and they cannot. The reason why that is, is because millions of them had been murdered. Kues could not find millions still alive in his three part study and stopped producing revisionist writings.
I won't allow you to derail another discussion I had with Numar. What you're asking for has been evidenced and we can talk about it in one of the multiple other threads.

Re: Soviet POWs and Jews in the East

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:11 pm
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:17 pm
Nessie wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:41 pm...Yet again, ask a revisionist to evidence millions of Jews still alive in 1944, and they cannot. The reason why that is, is because millions of them had been murdered. Kues could not find millions still alive in his three part study and stopped producing revisionist writings.
I won't allow you to derail another discussion I had with Numar. What you're asking for has been evidenced and we can talk about it in one of the multiple other threads.
From the OP
This is a central topic to the question of any "missing Jews", as these are precisely the Jews which are documented by Germany (through official Final Solution policy) of having been relocated to these remote, post-war Soviet territories
Kues looked and did not find. You do not want to discuss what that means for revisionism, because it destroys its prime claim.