The Waffen SS- An interview with Leon Degrelle

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For your consideration, a telling of the birth and life of the Waffen SS.

https://odysee.com/@TheBlackSunSociety: ... affen-Ss:9

[Nazgul]

14f13 was the camp euthanasia program. Only certain people were immune from prosecution for these killings, others would face murder charges. There were no gassings; at Sobibor it is clear from witness testimony the invalids or those with typhus would be shot.

[Stubble]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in the trials it was stated that internees with tb or incurable typhus were given barbatol tablets or injections of morphine.

[Archie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in the trials it was stated that internees with tb or incurable typhus were given barbatol tablets or injections of morphine.

That was the Hadamar trial specifically. The US Army did claim in that there were gassings at Hadamar but the story was that the gassings there were phased out in favor of other methods. The Hadamar trial had a fairly narrow focus (Soviet and Polish PoWs with tb), and there was virtually nothing about gassing.

[Stubble]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in the trials it was stated that internees with tb or incurable typhus were given barbatol tablets or injections of morphine.

That was the Hadamar trial specifically. The US Army did claim in that there were gassings at Hadamar but the story was that the gassings there were phased out in favor of other methods. The Hadamar trial had a fairly narrow focus (Soviet and Polish PoWs with tb), and there was virtually nothing about gassing.

That's tha one, thanks Archie!

The volume of evidence for 'alternative methods' of execution (gas, shooting etc) has been pretty scant so far unless I'm missing something.

Regardless, that video is excellent.

[Nazgul]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in the trials it was stated that internees with tb or incurable typhus were given barbatol tablets or injections of morphine.

The Sobibor witnesses say the decrepit were shot. There is a high correlation between those put on tippers and the sound of gunfire a short time later. I doubt if the drugs mentioned above would be used for euthansia due to their importance for assisting wounded Heer soldaten, Armeesoldaten as the war progressed. There was a profound shortage of such medicines.

[Archie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in the trials it was stated that internees with tb or incurable typhus were given barbatol tablets or injections of morphine.

The Sobibor witnesses say the decrepit were shot. There is a high correlation between those put on tippers and the sound of gunfire a short time later. I doubt if the drugs mentioned above would be used for euthansia due to their importance for assisting wounded Heer soldaten, Armeesoldaten as the war progressed. There was a profound shortage of such medicines.

At Treblinka (and maybe other camps as well) there's the Lazarett story. Invalids were supposedly "selected" and taken to the "Lazarett" (field hospital) where they were actually shot into a giant fire pit, ten meters deep. Given that roughly 100% of those sent to Treblinka were exterminated, I fail to see the logic of having "selections" to separate those who would be shot from those who would be gassed. It doesn't really make sense.

The euthanasia methods wouldn't necessarily need to be the exact same everywhere. I could see shootings being favored in a remote camp while injections were favored at hospitals in Germany.

[Stubble]

I've still got reading to do.

Treblinka, the whole narrative is nuts. Then there is what is demonstrable to have happened, which is different still. There there is my assessment, which is still different.

With the lazeret (isolation or holding, maritime term), near as I can tell, the guy that ran the farm detail wasn't liked, so, apparently he killed 50,000 jews and shoved them into a flaming pit, when he wasn't, you know, tending to the farm detail. Basically, I think the story is made up bullshit, because he put people to work tending the geese and what not, and those people got a chip on their shoulder about it.

Different methods for 'mercy killing'? Maybe. I need to read more. Problem is, finding good sources.

Has anybody penned anything and put it on the CODOH website? Links are welcome.