Backing up the data - Some thoughts

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I am sure we can all agree on the importance of preserving data, especially something as relevant and hated by "the powers that be" as holocaust revisionism. So that's why I want to spark up a discussion on key issues & suggestions for backups.
Archive.org
First off, archive.org. Relying on such a flimsy website held together by tape isn't a very good idea, and it's used a lot to host a variety of revisionist content like books, documentaries and webpages (via wayback machine).

Apparently, they lost lawsuits that were enough to bankrupt them many times over, and they've been down for quite a while in the past. Don't even know how they're still up.
Some material on this issue:
(Yes, I do watch this Jew Lunduke for tech news every once in a while. Seems to be a Matt Walsh 'cuckservative' "Do anything, just don't hurt our kids" type.)
youtu.be/az6y2vxKmhc
youtu.be/DZq-eplpWfQ

Even if they stay up, there is no way to know for how much longer they'll allow this content to be hosted there. A lot of things could happen to it, they could be DDosed by activist groups if the content gets too popular, remove it out of their own volition, or even be emailed by impersonators claiming that the content violates their copyright, and they might comply since the website seems to be super mismanaged.

Video hosting websites
Now, addressing some video hosting websites:
  1. Youtube, obviously cannot be trusted for archiving content questioning the orthodox Holocaust narrative, but every once in a while something flies under the radar. It's easily one of the worst websites censorship wise, seemingly normal comments get shadow banned with no warning, as well as the most annoying to download stuff, I will list some tools for downloading YT vids later.
  2. Odysee seems to be slightly better censorship wise, but I still wouldn't use it. More of a "Normie Alternative" to YT.
  3. Rumble is better than these last 2, but it's banned in various countries including mine. I can only access it through TOR currently.
  4. Bitchute might be a reasonable alternative as well, but it seems you have to pay to host videos there. And it looks like they're going through a weird "civil rights" rebranding, which is strange considering their audience. I also found that some videos on the holocaust disappeared from there, I don't know if it's because the owner of the channel stopped paying or they actually got censored.
  5. There's also this "AltCensored" whose existence I learned only after checking out this "reccomended material" thread. I don't really know much about it.
Suggestions
I know many of you are doing this already, but I strongly recommend that everyone builds up their own "personal library" of files. Use a HDD since it has unlimited read/writes and the data can be recovered even if it breaks, or use a separate SSD from the one your system is installed in (they break down due to their limited writes, so if you just write the data on it once it should last for a long time).
Normal users can do things like just downloading videos with the context menu (Right click) / download button and save important pages with print to pdf.
Intermediate users can use yt-dlp to scrape videos automatically (initially made to be used on Youtube, supports all kinds of video hosting websites now) from websites and advanced users can even scrape entire domains with tools like wget.

Distribution & preservation through the internet
The stuff I wrote at the beginning isn't to say that we don't use these websites, but that we don't only use these websites. Every file should have at the very least two links in case one goes down, and it might even be possible to use platforms like Google Drive to store files, but with the files stored as encrypted archives. Another tool that would be really useful is torrents, which would allow decentralized sharing of files. It might be dangerous to use in places where "Holocaust Denial" is illegal though.

These are my thoughts on archival. Any other tips/ideas/warnings?
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So far I have about 10 terabytes of data such as volumes of the IMT and other pertinent materials in pdf format, various related documentaries, speeches, debates and discussions etc.

I physically archive anything that tickles my interest.

I know a purge is coming.

The lbry system that uses the odysee front end will be the last frontier when the ai censorship takes hold to 'cleanse the internet'
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Stubble wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:10 pm So far I have about 10 terabytes of data such as volumes of the IMT and other pertinent materials in pdf format, various related documentaries, speeches, debates and discussions etc.
Most of the data would be videos, correct? I don't see text files taking up that much space. Maybe a massive high quality page scanned PDF would be comparable to a video.
Also 10TB? Good work. I am just filling up a 300GB 18 year old hard drive that I got for free, focusing on the most important stuff.
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Yup, mostly videos at an average of 800ish megs per.
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Excellent topic Goyim.

Similar to Mr Stubble, my personal Holocaust archive is sitting at around 4tb, mostly PDF, infographs, some podcasts, interviews and videos. I have a triple redundancy method that i suggest to other likeminded people:

1) Primary use laptop, with most frequently used items on it, including primary note taking app (Obsidian) for on the fly notes
2) Backup 8tb HDD that i sync monthly
3) 4 x 8tb RAID5 array in a DAS enclosure that i backup throughout the year, with spare 8tb HDD for hot swap if needed

Regarding online archive, there was a gentleman on Twitter once called Hank Hill (no relation) who's account was nuked, but fortunately alot of his effort posts were archived using the archive.org backup feature! Example here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230511213 ... 06977.html

I recommend keeping as many redundant copies of everything as possible. Along with that, i have purchased all the physical HH volumes that interested me, along with the Encyopedia (signed by the Main Man himself that I will pass to my children once Western Civilisation is saved)
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Also, speaking about archiving: i would use this opportunity to give props and kudos to Archie, Callafangers and others who's monumental work at preserving the original CODOH forum, and to produce a backup.

The original CODOH forums can easily be searched using indexing software, so all of those discussions will be at your fingertips (and archived ;) )
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I use micro sd cards. Semi permanent, small and inexpensive.
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HansHill wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:42 pm Similar to Mr Stubble, my personal Holocaust archive is sitting at around 4tb, mostly PDF, infographs, some podcasts, interviews and videos. I have a triple redundancy method that i suggest to other likeminded people:

1) Primary use laptop, with most frequently used items on it, including primary note taking app (Obsidian) for on the fly notes
2) Backup 8tb HDD that i sync monthly
3) 4 x 8tb RAID5 array in a DAS enclosure that i backup throughout the year, with spare 8tb HDD for hot swap if needed
That's a great setup. If I get spare resources I will do something similar. For now, I will attempt to make the most out of my old HDD by lowering video quality and such.
I recommend keeping as many redundant copies of everything as possible. Along with that, i have purchased all the physical HH volumes that interested me, along with the Encyopedia (signed by the Main Man himself that I will pass to my children once Western Civilisation is saved)
You might be able to make extra backups with a free service like google drive. The proof that it works is that it's already used en masse for piracy. They just use encrypted ZIP archives, Google would only be able to stop it if they banned the uploading of such encrypted files.
HansHill wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:02 pm Also, speaking about archiving: i would use this opportunity to give props and kudos to Archie, Callafangers and others who's monumental work at preserving the original CODOH forum, and to produce a backup.

The original CODOH forums can easily be searched using indexing software, so all of those discussions will be at your fingertips (and archived ;) )
Do you know how they backed it up? Did they scrape the web page as normal users with some tool or did they have admin access to it?
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Stubble wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:12 pm I use micro sd cards. Semi permanent, small and inexpensive.
Sorry, but that sounds a little fishy. Have you tested your micro SD cards? I heard they're meant to actually be pretty expensive, more than HDDs or even SATA SSDs, but there's a lot of scams of super cheap ones. They might be chinese knockoffs.
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Cheap enough for sandisk at staples. Same for pny, Samsung etc.

They work fine. Been doing this for around half a decade now.
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goyim terror alarm wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:21 pm
Do you know how they backed it up? Did they scrape the web page as normal users with some tool or did they have admin access to it?
Good question, i'm not sure. I'm sure Archie will be along shortly, or you could always DM him if he misses this. Assuming the answer doesn't dox him in any way, or reveal codoh interior workings, i'm sure he will shed light on how this was done.
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I made some related comments here (more "big picture," not so much technical details):
https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=49

Imo, the most important materials by far are textual (secondary and primary sources) and fortunately the file sizes for that don't tend to be all that large. A pdf for one of Holocaust Handbooks is typically under 20 mb. I would also recommend buying some books in hard copy.

We definitely can't count on archive.org forever. At some point, they will probably get pressured to remove revisionist material and other "hate" content. If it comes down to it, we might need to fund our own websites to host and share files.

Also, re: the altcensored site, I believe the videos are actually hosted on archive.org. So it's not really independent. Maybe they've planned for that contingency but not necessarily.
HansHill wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:25 pm
goyim terror alarm wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:21 pm
Do you know how they backed it up? Did they scrape the web page as normal users with some tool or did they have admin access to it?
Good question, i'm not sure. I'm sure Archie will be along shortly, or you could always DM him if he misses this. Assuming the answer doesn't dox him in any way, or reveal codoh interior workings, i'm sure he will shed light on how this was done.
Credit for the backup goes to Callafangers. He scraped the site as a normal user. It was all his own initiative. He used a site rip tool called HTTrack which downloads the public HTML pages. Ideally, we would have fully restored everything (including the user and login data which is not public) but to do that you need the SQL database and the PHP files. Generally speaking you have to have access to the web server for that.
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Archie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:32 am
We definitely can't count on archive.org forever. At some point, they will probably get pressured to remove revisionist material and other "hate" content. If it comes down to it, we might need to fund our own websites to host and share files.
I do recall seeing some jew complaining about "Rampant anti-Semitism" in Archive.org, but I don't remember where that was from and can't find it again. On that note, would it be possible for you to host some of the most important PDFs on codohforum.com? Maybe have links to them listed on the wiki page.
Credit for the backup goes to Callafangers. He scraped the site as a normal user. It was all his own initiative. He used a site rip tool called HTTrack which downloads the public HTML pages. Ideally, we would have fully restored everything (including the user and login data which is not public) but to do that you need the SQL database and the PHP files. Generally speaking you have to have access to the web server for that.
Thanks for the recommendation, that's exactly the kind of tool that I was looking for. A simple tool that just downloads the .html pages which can later be opened on the browser. I don't know why it didn't show up when I searched about archiving web pages.
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goyim terror alarm wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:56 pm
Archie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:32 am
We definitely can't count on archive.org forever. At some point, they will probably get pressured to remove revisionist material and other "hate" content. If it comes down to it, we might need to fund our own websites to host and share files.
I do recall seeing some jew complaining about "Rampant anti-Semitism" in Archive.org, but I don't remember where that was from and can't find it again. On that note, would it be possible for you to host some of the most important PDFs on codohforum.com? Maybe have links to them listed on the wiki page.
Credit for the backup goes to Callafangers. He scraped the site as a normal user. It was all his own initiative. He used a site rip tool called HTTrack which downloads the public HTML pages. Ideally, we would have fully restored everything (including the user and login data which is not public) but to do that you need the SQL database and the PHP files. Generally speaking you have to have access to the web server for that.
Thanks for the recommendation, that's exactly the kind of tool that I was looking for. A simple tool that just downloads the .html pages which can later be opened on the browser. I don't know why it didn't show up when I searched about archiving web pages.
I have seen the far left complain some about archive.org, but not nearly as much as they do about the social media giants. (Also, the main concern seems to be over the wayback machine which makes it harder for them to memory hole/retcon things). But I don't think censoring archive.org has been a major priority since it's not a social media site. Yes, you can find revisionist stuff on there but probably only if you are directly searching for it. No need to worry about something "going viral" on archive.org and racking up millions of views/downloads. If they were to lock it down, this would just push people toward building out their own replacements which would likely mean less control and less ability to monitor things. I don't think we can count on it forever, but I think we should use it while it's available to us.

For key revisionist materials, there is an archive of revisionist periodicals like Inconvenient History, JHR, etc hosted on the main CODOH site. And the Holocaust Handbooks site hosts electronic versions of the books, along with some documentaries. I do not have immediate plans to host a lot of material here on the forum site (the main site would have more resources for something like that). But for the long-term I do have some ideas along these lines.
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Here was a post I made at RODOH when the CODOH Library went down.
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