Some good entry points to the topic of Vatican II and Jewish subversion of the Roman Catholic Church (RCC)
1) Fash The Nation - All Zog Goes to Heaven: Beginning at timestamp 2hours 5 minutes
https://odysee.com/@Naus%C3%A9esPolitiq ... o-Heaven:2
2) Leon De Poncins - Judaism And The Vatican: An Attempt At Spiritual Subversion
https://archive.org/details/judaismvati ... ins_202006
Vatican II - Jewish Subversion
Re: Vatican II - Jewish Subversion
Chronology and names might be important, and of course, you run into the problem of Crypto-Kikes...
I'll pivot to this for a bit and help you flesh this thread out Mr Hill.
I'll pivot to this for a bit and help you flesh this thread out Mr Hill.
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Re: Vatican II - Jewish Subversion
Another few recommended reads.
"How the Jews Changed Catholic Thinking." This article is positive on the influence of Jewish converts to the Catholic church.
From Enemy to Brother: The Revolution in Catholic Teaching on the Jews, 1933-1965. Another more mainstream look at how Jewish and Protestant converts influenced Vatican II.
The above two sources highlight and celebrate the Jewish involvement in influencing how the Council formulated its statements in relation to Jews in Nostra aetate.
The Vatican Council and the Jews. From the Jewish perspective from outside the church and council.
And obviously, almost every single book by E. Michael Jones in the last 15 or so years has examined this issue in some context. The Holocaust Narrative has some long discussions of Vatican II.
Jones usually argues that the Vatican II council documents are mostly correct, but the interpretation of the "spirit of Vatican II" is one main problem. Because Nostra aetate condemned anti-semitism without defining anti-semitism, it left the interpretation of who/what is anti-semitic to Jewish organizations, which label everything they don't like as anti-semitic.
Also, the Jews who were allowed to research archives related to Pope Pius XII and the holocaust didn't find anything incriminating. If they had, the world would be informed of it every day for the next century.
Faurisson wrote a good short book on Pius XII being a proto-Holocaust revisionist. Patrick Gallo wrote/edited a volume examining Pius XII's actions during WW2, labeling the Jews and Catholics who disparage Pius XII as "revisionists" themselves. Pius XII and the holocaust could be its own topic, though.
edit: link to Faurisson's book on Pius XII, which seems to be banned from most online bookstores now.
"How the Jews Changed Catholic Thinking." This article is positive on the influence of Jewish converts to the Catholic church.
From Enemy to Brother: The Revolution in Catholic Teaching on the Jews, 1933-1965. Another more mainstream look at how Jewish and Protestant converts influenced Vatican II.
The above two sources highlight and celebrate the Jewish involvement in influencing how the Council formulated its statements in relation to Jews in Nostra aetate.
The Vatican Council and the Jews. From the Jewish perspective from outside the church and council.
And obviously, almost every single book by E. Michael Jones in the last 15 or so years has examined this issue in some context. The Holocaust Narrative has some long discussions of Vatican II.
Jones usually argues that the Vatican II council documents are mostly correct, but the interpretation of the "spirit of Vatican II" is one main problem. Because Nostra aetate condemned anti-semitism without defining anti-semitism, it left the interpretation of who/what is anti-semitic to Jewish organizations, which label everything they don't like as anti-semitic.
Also, the Jews who were allowed to research archives related to Pope Pius XII and the holocaust didn't find anything incriminating. If they had, the world would be informed of it every day for the next century.
Faurisson wrote a good short book on Pius XII being a proto-Holocaust revisionist. Patrick Gallo wrote/edited a volume examining Pius XII's actions during WW2, labeling the Jews and Catholics who disparage Pius XII as "revisionists" themselves. Pius XII and the holocaust could be its own topic, though.
edit: link to Faurisson's book on Pius XII, which seems to be banned from most online bookstores now.
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Re: Vatican II - Jewish Subversion
Commentary magazine, in its January 1965 issue, published a fake prayer attributed to Pope John XXIII shortly before he died:
By 1966, the Vatican trustee of John's writings had denied the authenticity of the prayer, stating there was no record of any such prayer and the language of it doesn't match anything the pope would or did say. Of course, that hasn't stopped the spread of the prayer, with quotes from it appearing occasionally since.
F.E. Cartus is a pseudonym, and the source of the prayer is not identified in the article.
It was likely fabricated in late 1964/early 1965 in an attempt to influence (subvert?) the Vatican II council's anticipated statement on the Jews, published later that year in Nostra Aetate.
In the end, Jewish organizations were disappointed the Catholic Church did not denounce the Gospels as anti-semitic and label all Catholics Jew-haters.
In his book Pope Pius XII's Revisionism, Robert Faurisson has an Appendix discussing the spread of the fake quote from 1965 to 1990.“We are conscious today that many many centuries of blindness have cloaked our eyes so that we can no longer either see the beauty of Thy Chosen People nor recognize in their faces the features of our privileged brethren. We realize that the mark of Cain stands upon our foreheads. Across the centuries our brother Abel has lain in the blood which we drew or shed the tears we caused by forgetting Thy Love. Forgive us for the curse we falsely attached to their name as Jews. Forgive us for crucifying Thee a second time in their flesh. For we knew not what we did. . . .”
F.E. Cartus. Vatican II & the Jews
By 1966, the Vatican trustee of John's writings had denied the authenticity of the prayer, stating there was no record of any such prayer and the language of it doesn't match anything the pope would or did say. Of course, that hasn't stopped the spread of the prayer, with quotes from it appearing occasionally since.
F.E. Cartus is a pseudonym, and the source of the prayer is not identified in the article.
It was likely fabricated in late 1964/early 1965 in an attempt to influence (subvert?) the Vatican II council's anticipated statement on the Jews, published later that year in Nostra Aetate.
In the end, Jewish organizations were disappointed the Catholic Church did not denounce the Gospels as anti-semitic and label all Catholics Jew-haters.