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by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:48 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust
Replies: 25
Views: 443

Re: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust

That is so weak. You are trying to say that they had burned a bunch of the bodies beforehand? That is not and has never been the story . You, random guy on the internet, do not get to make up a new story out of nowhere. Revisionists do that all the time, come up with unevidenced theories about what ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]
Replies: 43
Views: 561

Re: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]

..... I notice you give no examples to back up your accusations. If you do not want me to repeatedly point out that revisionists rely on the same logically flawed arguments again and again, then stop using those arguments! Instead, start to evidence your claims, using witnesses, documents, physical ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:42 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"
Replies: 7
Views: 84

Re: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"

.... Most of this memory research is from psychologists and a lot of it is only a few decades old. Historians have been evaluating sources for a long time using their own methods. For instance, historical practice as a rule prefers sources that were recorded as earlier over later sources because it ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"
Replies: 7
Views: 84

Re: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"

Another good example is that Nessie thinks that Vrba inventing a story about Himmler watching a gassing at Birkenau is an example of a "normal" error which should not in any way lessen our opinion of Vrba. He simply "got the date wrong." The camp regime was otherwise marked by its pettiness and ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:56 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"
Replies: 7
Views: 84

Re: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"

...I do have to wonder, if memory in general is not very accurate, how can we use it for anything? It seems like we would just have to throw out all witness testimony from court, period. There's no point in cross examination or anything like that. I hope Nessie can clear this up for us. Indeed, how ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:28 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"
Replies: 7
Views: 84

Re: Request for Nessie - Primer on these "witness studies"

Nessie makes frequent mention to "witness studies." Usually his argument is that "studies show" that even eyewitnesses who are honest and not crazy are still inaccurate and unreliable in many respects (especially dates and numbers); therefore, we cannot reject or discount Holocaust witness for ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:40 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]
Replies: 43
Views: 561

Re: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for revisionists]

To prove those witnesses lied, you need evidence from other witnesses, documents drafted at the time, archaeological studies, photos and physical evidence gathered from the relevant locations. You do not have any of that. You do not even know that they even existed. Actual fact is that you would to ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:25 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]
Replies: 43
Views: 561

Re: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]

I am on moderation because revisionists are prolific users of logically flawed arguments, which I point out, hence I post a lot (but self restrict to one part of the forum for more open debate, with this one exception). Without their arguments, revisionists have nothing, hence they are so defensive ...
by Nessie
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:19 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust
Replies: 25
Views: 443

Re: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust

The thing is, in regards to #1, there are various explanations here like bodies being burnt, Kola not investigating all the graves (he says this explicitly in his study - there may have been more), and the physics of decomposing bodies. That is so weak. You are trying to say that they had burned a ...
by Nessie
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust
Replies: 25
Views: 443

Re: The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust

The 21,310m3 that Kola identified as disturbed ground containing human remains, is the equivalent to 8.5 Olympic sized swimming pools. Name a mass grave site on earth, from any mass death, plague, any cause, that remotely approaches that size. The only other places where such a volume of disturbed ...
by Nessie
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 303
Views: 11979

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

There is no contradictory evidence from the witnesses and documents. They corroborate mass transports to the TII camp. The narrative is well known, there is no need to constantly repeat it. Nothing is added. In fact you have changed your tune, from the previous thought there was no shunting at ...
by Nessie
Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Problem with the Air Raid Shelter Thesis
Replies: 58
Views: 1579

Re: Problem with the Air Raid Shelter Thesis

Scott, if a historian, police officer or journalist was to investigate what the Kremas were used for in 1943 to 1944, they would look for evidence from witnesses, documents, physical items, imagery and the circumstances around the usage of the buildings, at that time. You don't do that. Instead, in ...
by Nessie
Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:40 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 303
Views: 11979

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

Witness speak to TII having a station inside the camp. They are not talking about the Malkinia camp people had to walk to. You are not reading the posts above, you are not in context, not on the same page. We are discussing the issue of the Treblinka location due to quite a few bits of ...
by Nessie
Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for Nessie]
Replies: 43
Views: 561

Re: Logical Fallacies [Remedial education for revisionists]

Even with a statement like "I don't believe that because it seems off." This is obviously not a fully fleshed out argument. You could call it a "fallacy" I suppose, but I personally would not consider it to be one. It's just a statement of preliminary opinion which is fine. Depending on the person ...
by Nessie
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:53 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: Wood Requirements for Outdoor Cremations
Replies: 79
Views: 1036

Re: Wood Requirements for Outdoor Cremations

I like how Mr. "Direct Evidence!" just makes blatant unprincipled exceptions whenever it suits him. Are there any testimonies saying that entire trains full of wood were making deliveries to Belzec and Treblinka every day? Any testimonies talking about how they spent all day unloading all that wood ...