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by PrudentRegret
Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:27 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

The "conspiracy" vs "non-conspiracy" dilemma overlooks the fact that there are other methods of indirect coordination than conspiracy. Stigmergy for example: Stigmergy is a form of self-organization. It produces complex, seemingly intelligent structures, without need for any planning, control, or ...
by PrudentRegret
Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:22 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

Bombsaway, you said your mind would be changed if you were presented with solid evidence of a conspiracy. But then when I present you with instances of what Revisionists call a conspiracy you admit that, even if Revisionists are right, it isn't going to change your opinion. So your entire framing is ...
by PrudentRegret
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:53 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

Yeah if this was the extent of the "formulation", no I wouldn't. It would have to be a more major part of the narrative, eg the Crema complex, completely faked. It is a major part of the narrative by nature of it being the very first camp conquered and "investigated" in the Holocaust narrative. The ...
by PrudentRegret
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:31 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

I know for a fact there were special efforts by various interest groups, governments, and ideologies in formulating this grand narrative. All of those efforts involved planning, often in secret. In my mind the Auschwitz Museum presenting a fake gas chamber as a real gas chamber for decades, and then ...
by PrudentRegret
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:02 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

It should also be noted the Auschwitz Museum made the claim that the restoration of the Zyklon chimneys was made possible by outlines remaining in the ceiling from when they were filled in by concrete in the conversion to an Air Raid shelter. The "reconstructed" Zyklon holes are neatly arranged ...
by PrudentRegret
Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:01 am
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

It should also be noted the Auschwitz Museum made the claim that the restoration of the Zyklon chimneys was made possible by outlines remaining in the ceiling from when they were filled in by concrete in the conversion to an Air Raid shelter. The "reconstructed" Zyklon holes are neatly arranged ...
by PrudentRegret
Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

It's literally the only "gas chamber" that anybody visits of the 5 "extermination camps." The other most significant "homicidal gas chamber" is at Majdanek, which was also fabricated by a deceptive post-war construction project: https://i.imgur.com/N7YAIJf.jpeg Post-war, the Bath House was connected ...
by PrudentRegret
Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:28 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

I know you believe it isn't possible, but again, if you could somehow receive assurance, that there was no conspiracy, no top down program to fabricate a historical event whatsoever, would this change your mind or introduce some uncertainty for you? How could you assure me that the Soviets/Poles ...
by PrudentRegret
Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

The confession of Rudolf Hoss, for example, was outright conspiracy. He was tortured, he was fed a prompt for things that never happened like him visiting Treblinka to decide how to implement gas chambers. But his "confession" was so important that all the downstream behavior of other defendants ...
by PrudentRegret
Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:37 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: The Question of Conspiracy
Replies: 51
Views: 890

Re: The Question of Conspiracy

The "conspiracy" vs "non-conspiracy" dilemma overlooks the fact that there are other methods of indirect coordination than conspiracy. Stigmergy for example: Stigmergy is a form of self-organization. It produces complex, seemingly intelligent structures, without need for any planning, control, or ...
by PrudentRegret
Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 223
Views: 6814

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

Nazgul's point about the Fplo showing stops at stations and junctions connected to camps is very important, but I also want to revisit some more documents below tying "Operation Reinhardt" to an economic use action under the SS-WVHA and SS-Standortverwaltung Lublin: I have literally just started ...
by PrudentRegret
Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 223
Views: 6814

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

It's not direct evidence because the witness is inferring the contents of the wagon . How much clearer can I make that for you? It's circumstantial evidence, and not even good circumstantial evidence as a number written in chalk is such a flimsy basis for concluding the contents of the wagon so ...
by PrudentRegret
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 223
Views: 6814

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

That is also not direct evidence for mass arrivals at the camp you are calling "Treblinka." You are inferring that when "Treblinka" is in these documents it is referring to the Sorting Camp operated by the SS-Bekleidungswerk Lublin. When I press you on this issue, you just point to documents that ...
by PrudentRegret
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 223
Views: 6814

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

Bombsaway, you abuse the term "direct evidence" so let me correct you here. "Direct evidence" means the evidence is so strong it is standalone and doesn't require corroboration from other evidence. Sparse and inconsistent witness testimony describing a bizarre, undocumented shunting operation of ...
by PrudentRegret
Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:29 pm
Forum: Holocaust Debate
Topic: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt
Replies: 223
Views: 6814

Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

Bombsaway, you abuse the term "direct evidence" so let me correct you here. "Direct evidence" means the evidence is so strong it is standalone and doesn't require corroboration from other evidence. Sparse and inconsistent witness testimony describing a bizarre, undocumented shunting operation of 800 ...