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Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:52 am ....
Clarification for anyone who may be having difficulty comprehending the fairly obvious parallels:
1.) hysterical girls acting peculiarly in unison; breasts of a middle-aged woman allegedly being full one day then empty the next; warts and moles on a person’s body; pigs unexpectedly dying; and other physically detectable occurrences perceived as misfortunes and calamities are ALL discernible realities well within the range of what can be deemed ‘physical evidence’ of something. When there is a pre-conditioned belief + confirmation bias, these things could be — and WERE — deemed proof of satanic sorcery.

They were all cited as caused by witches casting spells or curses, which are physical impossibilities. The witch finders mistakenly claimed that warts, pig dying etc had been caused by the women accused of witchcraft, which we know to be not possible. It is the casting of spells that is the impossibility, which is a false analogy with Germans building gas chambers, which is not an impossibility.

It is the same sort of simple-minded and delusional pre-conditioned belief + confirmation bias that led people to believe a calculated deceit regarding an unevidenced 3 to 4 million disappeared jews, magically vanishing into never evidenced gas chambers and then non-existent colossal mass-graves (Treblinka) and supernatural ‘pools’ (Birkenau).

There is evidence to prove that 6-7 million Jews were arrested and sent to camps and ghettos, 1939-44. The ghettos were gradually closed down, mainly in the period 1942-3, and those people were mostly sent to the AR camps and Chemno, where they did disappear from the Nazis paper trail. There is witness and archaeological evidence to prove mass graves at the camps and most of the ashes at Birkenau were dumped into rivers, not the pools.

Revisionists who have never bothered to make themselves familiar with the evidence, fall for the Holocaust denier lies about a lack of evidence.

2.). Ensatzgruppen reports are OBVIOUSLY NOT proof of a massive mass-gassing programme.

Indeed, they are part of the evidence to prove the Nazis and some allies were prepared to mass murder Jews.

Finally, there is another parallel between the witch trials at Salem starting in 1692 and the post war trials starting after 1945.
It is this:
BOTH — because of flawed understanding and deliberately malicious, deceitful, self-motivated deceptions — posed as being about combatting, exposing, eliminating and punishing wickedness.
Yet BOTH are regarded by fair-minded, knowledgeable, reasonable, decent people as ironically wicked and evil.

What the accusers and judges did at Salem at the end of the 17th century was wicked and evil.
Anyone who doesn’t recognise that now regarding Salem would be regarded as a superstitious simpleton or someone with wicked motivations.

I predict the day is not so far off when the same will apply to the show-trials of National Socialists who were — like at Salem — also accused of monstrous but never-properly evidenced crimes.

It is deluded to claim that there is a lack of evidence of the mass killings, of 5-6 million arrested Jews, by gassings, shootings and in the camps and ghettos. It is a delusion used to deflect from the genuine lack of evidence of 6-7 million arrested Jews, still alive in camps and ghettos in 1944-5.

As for the show trial claim, most of the SS death camp staff were tried by German prosecutors, in West, East and unified Germany. The SS accused did not deny mass killings happened, and still those prosecutors gathered evidence from witnesses and conducted site visits to the camps in Poland. The trials, run by the Germans and Western Allies, all used Nazi documents and the site examinations by the Poles, as corroborative evidence.

The attempted analogy with witch trials fails on every level.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 12:41 pm There is evidence to prove that 6-7 million Jews were arrested and sent to camps and ghettos, 1939-44. The ghettos were gradually closed down, mainly in the period 1942-3, and those people were mostly sent to the AR camps and Chemno, where they did disappear from the Nazis paper trail.

You continue to repeat non stop. The Jews were put on trains whose final destination post war were determined to be AR camps on the basis of very flimsy evidence. Those Jews disembarked in all probability at the site of a multitude of labour camps for jews en route. It is true that the organizations responsible for labour the Schmelt and Todt organizations had all of their paper work missing at wars end. It is suspected the Soviets were responsible for this. To fill unknown gaps of knowledge of the times with "murder by gassing" is more than asinine.

This poster has little interest in the real truth which may dignify the real suffering and hardship brave people experienced.

Both at Salem + world-wide in 1692 and Nuremberg + world-wide in 1945, we have a situation where judges, accusers, accused and gullible public believed in phantoms, superstition and unempirical nonsense.

Whether it is ‘wicked witches’ or ‘wicked Nazis’ the parallels are so obvious that only simpletons and deluded individuals or deliberate deceivers would fail to see them.

If ConfusedJew should read this I ask you to consider this and ask yourself whether he wants to be a co-believer with people who deny such obvious reality.

Here is another parallel: in both cases those accused (whether of witchcraft and consorting with the Devil or of participation in mass-gassings) sought to escape a death penalty by admitting to and conceding the REALITY of the false charges.
The reason: to deny the basis of the charge guaranteed a verdict of guilt and a resultant death penalty.

Those apparently ‘corroborating’ confessions at Salem — at least to most sane, intelligent people — does not provide credible EVIDENCE of there actually being witches with supernatural powers.

And those admissions of there being witches and of the accused’s participation in witchcraft DEFINITELY DID save accused people from death on the gallows.
Whereas those who denied their guilt of witchery were executed.

E.g. Susannah Martin, a 70 year old widow accused of witchery.
She laughed in court when the ‘afflicted’ girls went into hysterical fits at her denials.
When asked why she laughed, replied: “Well I may, at such folly.”
The Magistrate replied: “Is this folly? The hurt of persons?”
Susannah Martin said: “I never hurt man or woman or child.”
One of the girls posing as afflicted exclaimed: “She hath hurt me a great many times and pulls me down.”

Susannah Martin was also forced to submit to physical examination twice in order to find evidence of a "witch's tit or physical protuberance which might give milk to a familiar." No such deformity was found on Susannah Martin, but it was noted that "in the morning her nipples were found to be full as if the milk would come," but by late afternoon, "her breasts were slack, as if milk had already been given to someone or something." This was thought to be an indication that she had been visited by a witch's familiar, and was considered clear evidence of guilt. And this was when she was nearing 71 years old!
For denying her guilt and for laughing at the ridiculous behaviour of the girls posing as ‘afflicted’ and the gullibility of the court and judges, she was described as “one of the most impudent, scurrilous, wicked creatures of this world”.
CONCLUSION: Gullible dupes do not like their naivety and stupidity being shown to them and resort to vengeful denunciation of those who show it to them.

For any possibly dimwitted persons who may be reading, this about Susannah Martin’s breasts was ‘physical’ evidence. That we now know it was not credible does not detract from that. Obviously.

Here is another example that has parallels to Third Reich admissions of ‘mass-gassings’.
It is the case of an accused witch named Martha Carrier.

Martha responded with a plea of “not guilty,” and boldly asserted that those who accused her had lied. She was bound in chains and taken to jail to await trial while more evidence could be found.
Martha’s two oldest sons, Andrew and Richard, ages 18 and 15 respectively, and her seven-year-old daughter, Sarah, were also put in jail as suspected witches.
Under intense pressure, little Sarah confessed that she was a witch, and that it was her mother who made her a witch. Her sons Andrew and Richard were “tied neck to heel until the blood was ready to come out of their noses,” before they confessed. Under the persuasive magistrates, the children told the examiners about journeys, meetings and “mischiefs by them performed, and were very credible in what they said.”

How anyone can not see that obvious parallel with coerced admissions and “confessions” of accused in both cases is a mystery.
As far as I can see, only an extremely unintelligent person would argue that coerced testimony in either case (whether witchery or nazi genocide of millions in gas chambers) is credible ‘evidence’ and even ‘proof’ of guilt.

Regarding ‘phantom’ EVIDENCE, here is a list of phantom ‘extermination camps’ which were at one time falsely accused of being places of planned genocide of jews using non+existent, phantom gas-chambers.

Bergen-Belsen
Buchenwald
Dachau
Flossenbürg
Gross-Rosen
Kosów Podlaski
Lviv
Mogilev
Nordhausen
Pinsk
Trawniki
Wolzek.

Nazgul wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 1:07 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 08, 2025 12:41 pm There is evidence to prove that 6-7 million Jews were arrested and sent to camps and ghettos, 1939-44. The ghettos were gradually closed down, mainly in the period 1942-3, and those people were mostly sent to the AR camps and Chemno, where they did disappear from the Nazis paper trail.

You continue to repeat non stop. The Jews were put on trains whose final destination post war were determined to be AR camps on the basis of very flimsy evidence. Those Jews disembarked in all probability at the site of a multitude of labour camps for jews en route. It is true that the organizations responsible for labour the Schmelt and Todt organizations had all of their paper work missing at wars end. It is suspected the Soviets were responsible for this. To fill unknown gaps of knowledge of the times with "murder by gassing" is more than asinine.

This poster has little interest in the real truth which may dignify the real suffering and hardship brave people experienced.

Well said!