Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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Bombsaway, where did the primary burial before exhumation and open air cremation occur? Seriously, point to it, on the map.

The alleged bodies don't fit as a liquid...

If you are going to tell me the nazis buried, then dug up and cremated hundreds of thousands of people, you need to be able to show me where.

I'll even grant all disturbed earth on the bombing range as burial space. I won't quibble.

Where were these people buried?
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 2:24 am Bombsaway, where did the primary burial before exhumation and open air cremation occur? Seriously, point to it, on the map.

The alleged bodies don't fit as a liquid...

If you are going to tell me the nazis buried, then dug up and cremated hundreds of thousands of people, you need to be able to show me where.

I'll even grant all disturbed earth on the bombing range as burial space. I won't quibble.

Where were these people buried?
I asked a question first, I think I deserve getting a question answered for once. I'm not deeply familiar w treblinka archeology but I'm sure I will do it some point.
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Meanwhile there was an area the size of 5 american football fields covered in crushed bones mixed with sand. Do you have an explanation for this?
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Dubious sources. The claim comes from dubious sources.

Apparently the road was made from the bones of jews as well.

And the fields were fertilized with cremains, and it was used to fertilize cabbage in Germany....

Propaganda. Pravda. Fake News.
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:43 am
Meanwhile there was an area the size of 5 american football fields covered in crushed bones mixed with sand. Do you have an explanation for this?
This question?

Dubious sources. The claim comes from dubious sources.
If that's the case, revisionists shouldn't cite him as evidence of no wrongdoing. What does he say that makes him a dubious source btw?
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That's a bit of indirect and meandering talk. Bombsaway, seems you want to take the thread for a stroll.

Start a new one on the Polish commission I guess, this here feller you want to talk about too i suppose.

In the meantime, how's about you point on the map where them bodies was first buried.

We ain't got to talk none 'bout that weather, we ain't got to talk 'bout fuel, nothin'. You just show me where you bury twice the population of liverpool on that there patch of dirt.
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 6:33 am That's a bit of indirect and meandering talk. Bombsaway, seems you want to take the thread for a stroll.

Start a new one on the Polish commission I guess, this here feller you want to talk about too i suppose.

In the meantime, how's about you point on the map where them bodies was first buried.

We ain't got to talk none 'bout that weather, we ain't got to talk 'bout fuel, nothin'. You just show me where you bury twice the population of liverpool on that there patch of dirt.
Dude, the polish commission is a critical part of the archeological evidence. This is not ot, you're the one changing the subject.
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joshk246 wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:30 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:53 pm ....

I am happy to be that, as it means I follow what is evidenced to have happened, unlike you.



By 1945, grave robbing had further disturbed the site;
smh... how many times do we have to keep going back over this, those graves they robbed were not at TII they were in a forest near TI.
No the grave robbing took place at TII;

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts ... -gold-rush

"The writer Rachela Auerbach visited Treblinka on Nov. 7, 1945, as part of an official delegation organized by the Main Commission for the Investigation of Hitlerite Crimes. She called one of the chapters of a small book she subsequently wrote about the Treblinka extermination camp “The Polish Colorado or About the Gold Rush in Treblinka.” She also described how plunderers with shovels were everywhere. “They dig, they search, pulling out bones and body parts. Maybe something could still be found,” she writes, “maybe a golden tooth?”"
Łukaszkiewicz on the TII findings:
“During the work on the terrain, I found no mass graves, which, in connection with the statements by the witnesses Romanowski and Wiernik, leads to the conclusion that nearly all of the bodies of the victims were burned, all the more so since the camp was liquidated early and the murderers had much time. The ground of the camp was ploughed and sown. Ukrainians were settled there; they fled before the arrival of the Red Army (witnesses Kucharek and Lopuszyński).”
Quote mining is a logical fallacy. You ignore all the cremated remains he found.
The surveyor Trautsolt drew a map of the area of Treblinka I, where he indicated the exact position of the graves.
<see below>
That is TI, not TII. "Karny oboz pracy Treblinka I", means penal labour camp Treblinka I. "I osrodek zaglady Treblinka II" means and extermination centre Treblinka II.
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Stubble wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 2:24 am ...
If you are going to tell me the nazis buried, then dug up and cremated hundreds of thousands of people, you need to be able to show me where.

I'll even grant all disturbed earth on the bombing range as burial space. I won't quibble.

Where were these people buried?
I have shown you, so counter question back to you. Show me on a map, where the undisturbed ground that has never been dug into is and where the Soviets exploded bombs. Then show me your evidence to prove undisturbed ground and any disturbance was caused by a Soviet bomb.
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Nessie wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:29 am
joshk246 wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:30 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:53 pm ....

I am happy to be that, as it means I follow what is evidenced to have happened, unlike you.



By 1945, grave robbing had further disturbed the site;
smh... how many times do we have to keep going back over this, those graves they robbed were not at TII they were in a forest near TI.
No the grave robbing took place at TII;

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts ... -gold-rush

"The writer Rachela Auerbach visited Treblinka on Nov. 7, 1945, as part of an official delegation organized by the Main Commission for the Investigation of Hitlerite Crimes. She called one of the chapters of a small book she subsequently wrote about the Treblinka extermination camp “The Polish Colorado or About the Gold Rush in Treblinka.” She also described how plunderers with shovels were everywhere. “They dig, they search, pulling out bones and body parts. Maybe something could still be found,” she writes, “maybe a golden tooth?”"
Łukaszkiewicz on the TII findings:
“During the work on the terrain, I found no mass graves, which, in connection with the statements by the witnesses Romanowski and Wiernik, leads to the conclusion that nearly all of the bodies of the victims were burned, all the more so since the camp was liquidated early and the murderers had much time. The ground of the camp was ploughed and sown. Ukrainians were settled there; they fled before the arrival of the Red Army (witnesses Kucharek and Lopuszyński).”
Quote mining is a logical fallacy. You ignore all the cremated remains he found.
The surveyor Trautsolt drew a map of the area of Treblinka I, where he indicated the exact position of the graves.
<see below>
That is TI, not TII. "Karny oboz pracy Treblinka I", means penal labour camp Treblinka I. "I osrodek zaglady Treblinka II" means and extermination centre Treblinka II.
Quote mining is a logical fallacy. You ignore all the cremated remains he found.
I am not ignoring that at all, I already mentioned it about 10 posts ago, if you go back you’ll see… I don’t want to keep going around in circles…

That is TI, not TII. "Karny oboz pracy Treblinka I", means penal labour camp Treblinka I. "I osrodek zaglady Treblinka II" means and extermination centre Treblinka II.
I know where it is and what it translates too, are you now conceding that the desecrated graves were found near TI, and not inside T2, as the surveyors document confirms?
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