The WANNSEE CONFERENCE and PROTOCOL

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Wishes and ideas of the Federal Foreign Office
regarding the proposed comprehensive solution to the Jewish question in Europe.
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Deportation of all Jews of German nationality residing in the German Reich, including Croatian, Slovak, and Romanian Jews, to the East.
Deportation of all Jews of former German nationality living in the territories occupied by us who have become stateless due to the most recent decree on the Reich Citizenship Law.
Deportation of all Serbian Jews.
Deportation of the Jews handed over to us by the Hungarian government.
Declaration of willingness to the Romanian, Slovak, Croatian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian governments living in these countries to also deport the Jews to the East.
Influence the Bulgarian and Hungarian governments to introduce Jewish laws based on the Nuremberg model.
Influence the other governments of Europe to introduce Jewish laws.
Implementation of these measures as before in good agreement with the Secret State Police Office.
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Meanwhile, in "the East", the Einsazgruppen were shooting millions of Jews and sending reports back to Berlin about their successes, making "the East" Jew free. The Wannsee Minutes recorded Estonia as Jew free and huge drops in the Jewish populations in Latvia, Lithuania and Ukraine.
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Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:26 am Meanwhile, in "the East", the Einsazgruppen were shooting millions of Jews and sending reports back to Berlin about their successes, making "the East" Jew free. The Wannsee Minutes recorded Estonia as Jew free and huge drops in the Jewish populations in Latvia, Lithuania and Ukraine.
They were shooting civilian combatants aka partisans, their helpers who were creating havoc.
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Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:26 am Meanwhile, in "the East", the Einsazgruppen were shooting millions of Jews and sending reports back to Berlin about their successes, making "the East" Jew free. The Wannsee Minutes recorded Estonia as Jew free and huge drops in the Jewish populations in Latvia, Lithuania and Ukraine.
Not true, they shot enemy partisans who numbered a few dozen here and there. The jews themselves bragged about how hard they were and how brave their partisans were taking on German combat units but when it all goes wrong and they end up upside down in a ditch with their guts and brains hanging out they claim 'muh holocaust'...
Of the four million jews under German control, six million died and five million survived!
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borjastick wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 12:17 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:26 am Meanwhile, in "the East", the Einsazgruppen were shooting millions of Jews and sending reports back to Berlin about their successes, making "the East" Jew free. The Wannsee Minutes recorded Estonia as Jew free and huge drops in the Jewish populations in Latvia, Lithuania and Ukraine.
Not true, they shot enemy partisans who numbered a few dozen here and there. The jews themselves bragged about how hard they were and how brave their partisans were taking on German combat units but when it all goes wrong and they end up upside down in a ditch with their guts and brains hanging out they claim 'muh holocaust'...
Any evidence of that and if so few Jews were being killed, why did the Wannsee Minutes record large drops in the Jewish population?
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Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 12:53 pm Any evidence of that and if so few Jews were being killed, why did the Wannsee Minutes record large drops in the Jewish population?
You are so morbid. Jews were sent eastwards.
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It is ironic that although the Wannsee Conference is considered to be the turning point where the "final solution to the Jewish question" was decided, it is in fact nothing more than a confirmation of the theory of revisionist historians. It was not the extermination of the Jews that was considered, but the deportation of the Jews to the East - exactly what the revisionist theory claims. Official historians have been unable to find Hitler's order to exterminate the Jews for 80 years, and rely on the very flimsy and unfounded claim that the Nazis used "code words" such as "special action" instead of "mass extermination".
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InuYasha wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 2:33 pm It is ironic that although the Wannsee Conference is considered to be the turning point where the "final solution to the Jewish question" was decided, it is in fact nothing more than a confirmation of the theory of revisionist historians. It was not the extermination of the Jews that was considered, but the deportation of the Jews to the East - exactly what the revisionist theory claims. Official historians have been unable to find Hitler's order to exterminate the Jews for 80 years, and rely on the very flimsy and unfounded claim that the Nazis used "code words" such as "special action" instead of "mass extermination".
You have forgotten something. Evidence. There is evidence of mass killings of Jews who were told they were being resettled east. There is no evidence of millions of Jews actually being resettled in the east. That is how historians know Wannsee was the planning of an action that included mass murder, and so-called revisionists are wrong to claim it was the planning of a pure resettlement programme.

It is quite reasonable that historians have never found a Hitler gassing order, an individual document. It is somewhat unreasonable that revisionists have failed to find evidence of millions of Jews alive in 1944 in the east, which would have generated a lot of documentation, witnesses and physical evidence.

As for code words, revisionists claim liquidate was a code word for resettlement and they have no idea, let alone agreement, what the term "special action" or "treatment" referred to at Birkenau.
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'Millions to the left of me,
Millions to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the millions with you'

-Nessie from his double counting which turned into multiple counting. You see he sees millions of jews in every part of Europe for all the war and all these millions of jews were holocausted. Because Nessie thinks there were 27million jews slathered all over Europe and every single one of them was blown up the chimney. The logic of the man is the stuff of legend.
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Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 3:40 pm You have forgotten something. Evidence. There is evidence of mass killings of Jews who were told they were being resettled east. There is no evidence of millions of Jews actually being resettled in the east. That is how historians know Wannsee was the planning of an action that included mass murder, and so-called revisionists are wrong to claim it was the planning of a pure resettlement programme.

It is quite reasonable that historians have never found a Hitler gassing order, an individual document. It is somewhat unreasonable that revisionists have failed to find evidence of millions of Jews alive in 1944 in the east, which would have generated a lot of documentation, witnesses and physical evidence.

As for code words, revisionists claim liquidate was a code word for resettlement and they have no idea, let alone agreement, what the term "special action" or "treatment" referred to at Birkenau.
Although you talk about evidence, direct documentary evidence of the alleged Holocaust has never been found. How could something happen on such a "secret" level in such a centralized country as the Third Reich? Documents talk about resettlement. Nazileaders talk about deportations. In July 1943, for example, Heinrich Himmler ordered the Sobibor transit camp to be converted into a concentration camp. Why do this if people were exterminated in Sobibor? At the same time, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported that about one and a half million Jews were evacuated to the Soviet Union.

Revisionism is called a conspiracy theory, but in fairness, the assertion that Hitler kept the Holocaust a secret from the entire society, even in documents, and German officials simply "realized" at some point that "deportation" now meant "extermination." I wonder how. Were the Nazis telepathic?
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borjastick wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 5:08 pm 'Millions to the left of me,
Millions to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the millions with you'

-Nessie from his double counting which turned into multiple counting. You see he sees millions of jews in every part of Europe for all the war and all these millions of jews were holocausted. Because Nessie thinks there were 27million jews slathered all over Europe and every single one of them was blown up the chimney. The logic of the man is the stuff of legend.
At what point did Nessie start doubling the Jewish numbers? According to various estimates I've seen, there were between 11 and 16 million in 1939 (though that applies to the entire European continent, from Gibraltar to the Urals). Several million left in 1939-41.
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InuYasha wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 5:35 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 3:40 pm You have forgotten something. Evidence. There is evidence of mass killings of Jews who were told they were being resettled east. There is no evidence of millions of Jews actually being resettled in the east. That is how historians know Wannsee was the planning of an action that included mass murder, and so-called revisionists are wrong to claim it was the planning of a pure resettlement programme.

It is quite reasonable that historians have never found a Hitler gassing order, an individual document. It is somewhat unreasonable that revisionists have failed to find evidence of millions of Jews alive in 1944 in the east, which would have generated a lot of documentation, witnesses and physical evidence.

As for code words, revisionists claim liquidate was a code word for resettlement and they have no idea, let alone agreement, what the term "special action" or "treatment" referred to at Birkenau.
Although you talk about evidence, direct documentary evidence of the alleged Holocaust has never been found.
There are plenty of documents pertaining to the operations of the Einsaztgruppen and reports of the execution of millions of Jews in the east. The Auschwitz Construction Office and Topf & Sons left documents recording alterations to the camp's crematoriums, to include undressing rooms, gas chambers, ovens for multiple corpse cremations and the addition of barracks to store property, for a special action involving Jews, infirm prisoners and Hungarians. Action Reinhard left documents recording the mass movement of people to three camps, but no further and the mass theft of their property, property they would need if they were being resettled. The AR staff all came from the Action T4 disabled euthanasia programme, for which there is a signed order by Hitler, proving he would use killing as part of policy. Hitler and many senior Nazis talked about the need to destroy the Jews and treat them as an enemy, proving motive.
How could something happen on such a "secret" level in such a centralized country as the Third Reich? Documents talk about resettlement. Nazileaders talk about deportations. In July 1943, for example, Heinrich Himmler ordered the Sobibor transit camp to be converted into a concentration camp. Why do this if people were exterminated in Sobibor? At the same time, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported that about one and a half million Jews were evacuated to the Soviet Union.
AR was coming to an end in mid 1943, so plans were made for Sobibor, after the transports stopped. Many Jews, such as German Jews, were evacuated to Soviet territory, where the evidence is that they were shot.
Revisionism is called a conspiracy theory, but in fairness, the assertion that Hitler kept the Holocaust a secret from the entire society, even in documents, and German officials simply "realized" at some point that "deportation" now meant "extermination." I wonder how. Were the Nazis telepathic?
No, they became more circumspect about what they said, after the scandal amongst the German public about Action T4, resulting in its formal cancellation.
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InuYasha wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 5:40 pm
borjastick wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 5:08 pm 'Millions to the left of me,
Millions to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the millions with you'

-Nessie from his double counting which turned into multiple counting. You see he sees millions of jews in every part of Europe for all the war and all these millions of jews were holocausted. Because Nessie thinks there were 27million jews slathered all over Europe and every single one of them was blown up the chimney. The logic of the man is the stuff of legend.
At what point did Nessie start doubling the Jewish numbers? According to various estimates I've seen, there were between 11 and 16 million in 1939 (though that applies to the entire European continent, from Gibraltar to the Urals). Several million left in 1939-41.
Borjastick is lying. I say there were between 10 and 11 million Jews in Europe, based on the figures used by Korherr and at Wannsee, of whom 5-6 million were killed and c500,000 were liberated from the camps in 1945. The rest escaped or hid.
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The following attendees of the Wannsee Conference survived World War 2 (that is, they were still alive after the Third Reich’s surrender on 8th May 1945, which was the end of the war in Europe):

Friedrich Kritzinger (died 1947, shortly after release)
Josef Bühler (lynched by the Allies in 1948)
Erich Neumann (died 1951)
Wilhelm Stuckart (died 1953)
Adolf Eichmann (illegally kidnapped, drugged, illegally smuggled across international borders and then lynched in occupied Palestine by vengeful jews in 1962)
Otto Hofmann (died 1982)
Georg Leibbrandt (died 1982)
Gerhard Klopfer (died 1987)
Eichmann’s secretary, Ingeburg Werlemann (Wagner) who died in Bonn in 2010.

The date of the deaths of the attendees Heinrich Müller and Rudolf Lange are uncertain. It is assumed that Müller died in 1945, but he may have survived and lived incognito. Lange’s death is similarly uncertain, and some sources indicate he briefly survived after the May 1945 surrender.
Klopfer and Leibbrandt evaded trial and punishment and lived for decades post-war.

Some of these made statements post-war about what had been discussed at the Wannsee Conference. And yet there post-war statements are not widely known. Furthermore the Ai called Grok was unable to reproduce any statements of ANY attendee apart from selective quotes from Eichmann’s show-trial.

I have already referred to the statements made by Ingeburg Werlemann. She denied any knowledge of there being an announcement or discussion of mass-murder and planned extermination of any jews, let alone a discussion to kill all 11 million jews plus mischlinge in Europe.

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Ingeburg Wagner on the left with her friend Käte Werth

Any unbiased, verifiable ‘history’ or assessment would include ALL statements by attendees. That Wikipedia and Ai sources do not (and can not) reference their post-war statements is evidence of censorship and deceit-by-omission.

Google’s Ai answer when asked only referenced jewish-controlled wikipedia, jewish-owned-and-controlled youtube, the jewish site Yad Vashem and Jewish-owned newspapers!!
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This shows how unreliable Ai CURRENTLY is and how self-referential the holocaust ‘history’ is.
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Link to statements by Otto Hofmann here. They are in German.

https://www.whlcollections.org/search/- ... LEVANCE/-/
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