The crematoria at Auschwitz and the use of their facilities in operation

[Stubble]

Why don't the corpse cellars #1 on Kremas II and III have a roof in December of 1944, and why do they have a roof in January of 1945 before being destroyed?

Anybody got an answer for that?

[HansHill]

Why don't the corpse cellars #1 on Kremas II and III have a roof in December of 1944, and why do they have a roof in January of 1945 before being destroyed?

Anybody got an answer for that?

Can you explain what you mean by not having a roof? If you mean the first photo shows the morgues appearing as very washed out, that could just be snow. The morgues were both partially subterranean meaning their roofs were actually covered with soil and could be traversed.

Here's a 3d rendition showing the morgue being subterranean relative to the krematoria room.



Here is another photo to show what i mean about the traversal, and possibility of snow. Note: ignore the roof of the Krematory being partially constructed, that's an entirely different building and is a co-incidence for this conversation, and is a full year earlier than what you are asking about! The morgue is actually in the foreground, slightly raised from the ground surrounding it.



Apologies if i've misunderstood you, but that is the most likely explanation for what you are seeing, albeit the first photo appears a little washed out.

[Stubble]

Look at the shadows from the reconnaissance photographs. In December, the shadows show no roof on corpse cellar 1 for either krema. In January, they do.

The roof of Kremas II and III were removed and work was done. Note the personnel and the equipment as well as the removal of fencing.

[HansHill]

Look at the shadows from the reconnaissance photographs. In December, the shadows show no roof on corpse cellar 1 for either krema. In January, they do.

The roof of Kremas II and III were removed and work was done. Note the personnel and the equipment as well as the removal of fencing.

Ok it seems we're both slightly off the mark here. I've gone back to John C. Ball's work on the air photo evidence, and was able to find a better version of the Dec 1944 photo. It does indeed corroborate that the roof was demolished (not removed), and this was due to aerial bombardment of the camp, along with dynamite (so it wasn;'t because work was being done)

If you have the HH books readily available, this is a passage to confirm what we're saying, HH vol 27, Ch 5.4

The roof of Morgue #1 of Crematorium 1 collapsed in late 1944/early 1945 after it was dynamited, but
the broken-up concrete slabs are still there today. A thorough investigation of these ruins has demon-
strated that there haven’t been any openings in that roof resembling either the marks visible on any of
the air photos or what witnesses have claimed (Rudolf/Mattogno, pp. 291-407).

[Stubble]

Look at the January photos though. The roof is there shortly before demolition.

Also, in the December photo, the roof is not collapsed, it's gone. It's not there. Look at the shadow cast. It goes from the wall to the floor.

(I am specifically referring to the roof of the corpse cellar 1 for krema II and III, not the roof of the main structure or anything, just the roof of the corpse cellars marked #1, alternatively referred to as 'the undressing room'.)

[Stubble]

https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... au-in-the/

Some reading.

[Fred Ziffel]

In crem 2 & 3, why build a gas chamber in the basement and cremation above on ground floor, now you have to haul the bodies upstairs. In a co-called mass murder, this makes no sense elevator or no elevator.

[TlsMS93]

In crem 2 & 3, why build a gas chamber in the basement and cremation above on ground floor, now you have to haul the bodies upstairs. In a co-called mass murder, this makes no sense elevator or no elevator.

The 52 muffles were not enough to even cremate the natural deaths in the camp, let alone hordes of unfortunate gassed people. The bottleneck is tremendous, to say the least. They say that in Kremas II and III up to 2,000 people could be gassed at a time, as they speak of successive gassings, if each Krema had 15 muffles that could hold 1 body per hour. Superior attempts did not yield practical results in terms of cremation time, which doubled, so it would take a week to finish off those 2,000. Otherwise, those bodies would have to be hidden from the next batch of unfortunates, since there was no space, and they would not be taken to another warehouse and then brought back to be cremated.

But that's it. "It doesn't matter how technically such a genocide happened, it was technically possible because it happened."

Happy New Year to the entire community

[Fred Ziffel]

then there is the question of changing out the refractory bricks in the ovens and flue systems that have a max life of 2000 processes