An exposition, Made in Russia, The Holocaust

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2,000,000 dead at majdanek according to the official narrative, revised to 1.7 million by the IMT. No evidence though?...

The evidence was the same. Until ths iron curtain fell, no one could say any different.

4,000,000 at Auschwitz....

Then the rest of the 'murder mills'...

Belsen ring a bell? Mathhausen? Ravensbrooke?

It was atrocity propaganda...

But Auschwitz, no, no, that one, that one was real.

Also, no confessions from these places?

Let me go get them...and testimony...

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2,000,000 dead at majdanek according to the official narrative, revised to 1.7 million by the IMT. No evidence though?...

The evidence was the same. Until ths iron curtain fell, no one could say any different.

4,000,000 at Auschwitz....

Then the rest of the 'murder mills'...

Belsen ring a bell? Mathhausen? Ravensbrooke?

It was atrocity propaganda...

But Auschwitz, no, no, that one, that one was real.

Also, no confessions from these places?

Let me go get them...and testimony...

There's a stark difference in terms of evidence. You could probably delete 99% of the evidence for Auschwitz and mass gassings would still be much more highly indicated there than for the other places.

No, I don't think you will find any direct evidence, nor will you find evidence of mass transports, which is sort of pre-requisite. At Auschwitz even revisionists will acknowledge a huge discrepancy between Jews coming into the camp and those registered/brought into the labor system. Most revisionists say the unregistered Jews were resettled in USSR, along with the Reinhardt Jews.

[Stubble]

2,000,000 dead at majdanek according to the official narrative, revised to 1.7 million by the IMT. No evidence though?...

The evidence was the same. Until ths iron curtain fell, no one could say any different.

4,000,000 at Auschwitz....

Then the rest of the 'murder mills'...

Belsen ring a bell? Mathhausen? Ravensbrooke?

It was atrocity propaganda...

But Auschwitz, no, no, that one, that one was real.

Also, no confessions from these places?

Let me go get them...and testimony...

There's a stark difference in terms of evidence. You could probably delete 99% of the evidence for Auschwitz and mass gassings would still be much more highly indicated there then for the other places.

No, I don't think you will find any direct evidence, nor will you find evidence of mass transports, which is sort of pre-requisite. At Auschwitz even revisionists will acknowledge a huge discrepancy between Jews coming into the camp and those registered/brought into the labor system. Most revisionists say the unregistered Jews were resettled in USSR, along with the Reinhardt Jews.

Auschwitz-Birkenau was a stop off and they went to other camps, maybe registered at buna for example, all over the place.

Hell, look at what happened with Zisblatt...

She never even got a tattoo, well, unless you believe Dr Mengele removed it with chemicals or whatever so that she could be made in to a soap lampshade or some shit.

If you think these hundreds of thousands of people walked into the Krema and went out as smoke, don't you think it was nice of them to step so lightly as to not kill the grass...

[TlsMS93]

What leads you to believe that these people you bring up were in a position to know there were no gassings?

Saying there were no gassings is much different than saying I didn't see anything.

Vrba was not in a position to know either, but he said it anyway. So it only applies to your case? You said that there were no German witnesses who could say that what was said to have happened there was wrong, I left three of them. They could have known about people arriving by train and not going to the barracks, the Kremas were not hidden.

In other words, there is no unanimity in the Holocaust, there were several people who gave testimony exactly the opposite of what prevailed in trials and historiographical books, they just didn't have a voice because it wasn't in the best interest of business. Remember Finkelstein's mother asking who Hitler killed in front of so many survivors asking for compensation?

[Numar Patru]

there were several people who gave testimony exactly the opposite of what prevailed in trials and historiographical books

Name three

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What leads you to believe that these people you bring up were in a position to know there were no gassings?

Saying there were no gassings is much different than saying I didn't see anything.

Vrba was not in a position to know either, but he said it anyway. So it only applies to your case? You said that there were no German witnesses who could say that what was said to have happened there was wrong, I left three of them. They could have known about people arriving by train and not going to the barracks, the Kremas were not hidden.

There were Jews that also said they didn't know about the gassings or see any sign of it, this proves very little.

Vrba got his information from people who were working at the Kremas. So if you have a witness who says they knew someone in the Kremas who saw no gassings, I'll accept that.

There's documents directly pointing to camouflage of the Kremas

5.) Letter by Karl Bischoff of 17 May 1944:
"For the safety measures (camouflage) of the crematoria at Auschwitz, the necessary documents for the allocation and the application for construction material are to be prepared immediately and to be submitted here."
(Rudolf (ed.), Air-Photo Evidence, 5th edition, p.71-72, citing RGVA, 502-1-313, p. 4; my emphasis)


6.) Memo by Werner Jothann of 17 June 1944 (on a conference with Oswald Pohl the previous day):
"Camouflage of the crematories, and security measures by constructing a second fence (the camouflage has to be effected by rush-mats which have to be obtained by the SS garrison administration)."

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... e-and.html

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there were several people who gave testimony exactly the opposite of what prevailed in trials and historiographical books

Name three

Please quote the testimonies directly, I'll show you what I'm talking about.

[TlsMS93]

Name three

Are you pretending not to understand? I mentioned exactly three of them previously.

[Numar Patru]

This may shock you, but I don’t read all your posts

[bombsaway]

Auschwitz-Birkenau was a stop off and they went to other camps, maybe registered at buna for example, all over the place.

Hell, look at what happened with Zisblatt...

I don't really care about Zisblatt, unless you can show she's connected to some broader conspiracy. You mentioned masturbation machines, that's from the book Stolen Soul, which was made up by a gentile pretending to be a Jew https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/mar/03/news.film

I care more about documents and contemporaneous testimonies. The issue you w the Polish death camps is and general Jewish population is what happened to the non-employable Jews.

Goebbels in his "liquidated" entry says they made up 60%. Statistics exist for those who actually came to Auschwitz

In a report dated May 26, 1944 Eberhard von Thadden, an expert on Jews within the German Foreign Ministry, wrote: [44]

»According to the observations so far, about 1/3 of the deported Jews are able to work. They are immediately after their arrival in the camp Auschwitz distributed to the agencies of Gauleiter Sauckel, the OT [Organization Todt] etc.«

»According to the experiences so far these transports will consist of an estimated 30% (in this case about 3,600) employable Jews […]«

from here https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... july-1944/

This article deals with the question What happened to the Jews who were deported to Auschwitz but not registered there?”

And yet

What was the fate of the Non-Employable Hungarian Jews?
At the present level of knowledge we cannot answer this question with certainty supported by documents.

So this is the issue, this is the population thought to have been killed.

[TlsMS93]

There were Jews that also said they didn't know about the gassings or see any sign of it, this proves very little.

Vrba got his information from people who were working at the Kremas. So if you have a witness who says they knew someone in the Kremas who saw no gassings, I'll accept that.

There's documents directly pointing to camouflage of the Kremas

And what does it prove that people worked in a place? There are people who swear on their feet that they worked at Area 51 and said that there was an extraterrestrial telepathic translator there.

What do these documents prove to you? That there were gassings? Why only in 1944?

[bombsaway]

There were Jews that also said they didn't know about the gassings or see any sign of it, this proves very little.

Vrba got his information from people who were working at the Kremas. So if you have a witness who says they knew someone in the Kremas who saw no gassings, I'll accept that.

There's documents directly pointing to camouflage of the Kremas

And what does it prove that people worked in a place? There are people who swear on their feet that they worked at Area 51 and said that there was an extraterrestrial telepathic translator there.

What do these documents prove to you? That there were gassings? Why only in 1944?

It means that they would be in a position to know what happened there. Post the testimonies, you'll see what I mean. Your witnesses are not in a position to definitively say there were no gassings, they can only speak of their lack of knowledge of such things.

[Stubble]

Auschwitz-Birkenau was a stop off and they went to other camps, maybe registered at buna for example, all over the place.

Hell, look at what happened with Zisblatt...

I don't really care about Zisblatt, unless you can show she's connected to some broader conspiracy. You mentioned masturbation machines, that's from the book Stolen Soul, which was made up by a gentile pretending to be a Jew https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/mar/03/news.film

I care more about documents and contemporaneous testimonies. The issue you w the Polish death camps is and general Jewish population is what happened to the non-employable Jews.

Goebbels in his "liquidated" entry says they made up 60%. Statistics exist for those who actually came to Auschwitz

In a report dated May 26, 1944 Eberhard von Thadden, an expert on Jews within the German Foreign Ministry, wrote: [44]

»According to the observations so far, about 1/3 of the deported Jews are able to work. They are immediately after their arrival in the camp Auschwitz distributed to the agencies of Gauleiter Sauckel, the OT [Organization Todt] etc.«

»According to the experiences so far these transports will consist of an estimated 30% (in this case about 3,600) employable Jews […]«

from here https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... july-1944/

This article deals with the question What happened to the Jews who were deported to Auschwitz but not registered there?”

And yet

What was the fate of the Non-Employable Hungarian Jews?
At the present level of knowledge we cannot answer this question with certainty supported by documents.

So this is the issue, this is the population thought to have been killed.

Fair. I'll try to get you a dataset.

I marked Zisblatt because of the infamy. Well known, transited through.

[Nessie]

The OP is blank to me, there is no video, but going by the thread title, it is an allegation the Soviets are responsible for the Holocaust hoax, a favourite and inaccurate claim by revisionists.

[Stubble]

I'll provide the link. Best I can do. Apparently the video is 'hate speech'.

It's just a guy talking about a series of ridiculous claims and how they came about entering the record at the IMT.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cyZ7AELM0YDC